LS-190 **V8 engine swap with pics** - Page 2

Firemane · 10-26-2007, 01:55 AM

Just a quick suggestion if I may. You mentioned (and I see) that you used a GTO front-sump oil pan. A problem with the sump being in front of the steering rack is that there is nothing to deflect road debris away from the oil pan like there is on the F-body and Vette. Anything with any kind of mass gets up between the radiator and oil pan (or if you overrun onto a parking berm), and you could be looking at some pan damage.

GTOs shipped with a skidplate that protects the vulnerable oil pan specifically to address this issue. You might consider fabbing up a shield of some sort, or retrofitting GM Part #92078567 (which would require a call to Australia, and probably not as effective as a custom fab for your project). More info and pictures here: http://www.ls2gto.com/forums/showthr...te+part+number

A lot of people over on LS1GTO.com pull their skids off as a weight saving measure, but I know of at least one person who actually saw a benefit from it when things went upside down during a meet-n-greet demo ride. Just something to consider.

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Gen3Benz · 10-26-2007, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Firemane

Anything with any kind of mass gets up between the radiator and oil pan (or if you overrun onto a parking berm), and you could be looking at some pan damage.

The front crossmember sits lower than the oil pan. But I will most likely make an aluminum skid plate for the sump.
Also my front bumper will make a very loud noise if I hit a parking berm, telling me to hit the brakes.
Only going to really get on this car on the freeway, nice and flat.

Firemane · 10-26-2007, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Gen3Benz

The front crossmember sits lower than the oil pan. But I will most likely make an aluminum skid plate for the sump.
Also my front bumper will make a very loud noise if I hit a parking berm, telling me to hit the brakes.
Only going to really get on this car on the freeway, nice and flat.

Ah, I see that now. I saw the pic with the engine placed before the crossmember was added, but the one right below that pic shows what you mean. My bad. Carry on then...!

cfourthree · 10-29-2007, 07:58 PM

that youtube link made me giggle. I love horsepower cars and miss my jetta very much. I know jetta... but with a vr6 and a gt35/40r turbo I made a bit over 500whp. Shocked the **** out of people, as I assume your car will. LOVE the project, absolutely awesome!! I will be watching. Can I see pics of the whole car?
Thanks andrew

Gen3Benz · 10-30-2007, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by cfourthree

Can I see pics of the whole car?

I have to put my 19's on and springs back in to get the full effect.
Not much of a looker right now.

bad wheels, bad paint, bad fender gaps, lots of bad.

cfourthree · 11-07-2007, 11:38 AM

lots of bad?? You have a sick motor in it. Its a start. Plus the evo kit in nice. What are the plans for the outside?

Gen3Benz · 11-07-2007, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by cfourthree

lots of bad?? You have a sick motor in it. Its a start. Plus the evo kit in nice. What are the plans for the outside?

Bright white paint, know a guy who will do the paint and body for a good price.
Lower the suspension and put on my 19's

omegabenz6 · 11-08-2007, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by phxtravis

A chevy V8? are you kidding me? Should've put a Rotary in it

Autoweek 11/5/2007: Mazda Celebrates 40 years of Rotary Thinking...

LOL, doesnt work, back to the drawing board, doesnt work again, back to the drawing board....you would think that they would learn after 40 years.

I dont mean to hyjack your thread on that Gen3Benz.

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Originally Posted by Gen3Benz

Only going to really get on this car on the freeway, nice and flat.

I know the perfect place...Who will paint it? Ivan? I have been thinking about painting my coupe. When that diesel motor blows up, its going to get a V8!

cfourthree · 11-13-2007, 02:38 PM

http://mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=218066

190eplease · 02-11-2008, 03:47 AM

i am going to be putting v-8's into two 190e's.just wondering if you want to give up some knowledge? possibly make a couple more x-members or ? also what do you have invested in that rack+pinion?

TruTaing · 02-11-2008, 04:04 PM

wow, awesome project...

tanktube67 · 02-16-2008, 01:13 PM

I would like to see a video once the car is done.
are you doing the work or a shop is doing it for you?
Good jod looks well done

Gen3Benz · 02-17-2008, 07:02 PM

It's been a while since I have updated...
tanktube67,
Cant wait to make vids of the car driving.
It moves on its own power now, no more pushing.
I do all the work on the weekends at my shop.

Now for some pics...
Mounted an aluminum expansion tank with some tabs welded to the bulkhead, need to repaint a little.

Used some heat shrink hose clamps on the coolant tee's, look pretty sweet IMO.

Painted the removable center bulkhead piece and mounted the flexible trans dipstick and passenger side brake line.

Made some custom brake lines, also my 180 degree braided fuel line fittings. I need to do something about the ugly master cylinder reservoir, this works for now.

Running low speed fans(20A) through ballest resistor and high speed fans(40A) through 80A continuous duty relay.
They both have thier own relay in the fusebox, controlled by the PCM which I have reprogrammed to run a 2-speed single instead of 2-speed double fan setup.
The large battery cable going towards the engine routes all the way to a firewall pass-through next to the starter. I ran an SL battery cable from the other side to the trunk.

Had a guy at a body shop I know paint the front fenders...

and front bumper.

The rest of the car will be painted soon, now that I can move the car without pushing.
Slowly but surely.

omegabenz6 · 02-17-2008, 08:04 PM

Adam, its coming along well. What is a good source for AN fittings as you have?

Gen3Benz · 02-18-2008, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by omegabenz6

Adam, its coming along well. What is a good source for AN fittings as you have?

Austin, PM me your phone number so I can call you about the strut bar and shock mount setup.
I got the fittings and hose at Pluming department @ summit racing
Army Navy(AN) everything, but your gonna have to learn to measure in 1/16th of an inch and not MM's

The trans cooler lines will be braided steel also, still need to find the perfect trans cooler.

weneakhborz · 02-18-2008, 07:09 PM

any news here?

Gen3Benz · 02-19-2008, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by weneakhborz

any news here?

No news since my last update a few days ago ^^^
Im gonna work on the painters car while he strips some of the body kit panels off to prep them.
I need to take a bunch of pics of the crappy bodywork before its transformation.

TruTaing · 02-21-2008, 08:43 PM

Keep us updated. This is a really cool project

Yacht Master · 02-21-2008, 09:16 PM

View 3855, I like what I see, Keep up the good work!

EdzBenz · 02-22-2008, 05:14 PM

Wow. Very cool project.

TruTaing · 03-06-2008, 03:40 AM

updates?

Gen3Benz · 03-06-2008, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TruTaing

updates?

Pretty much just got all the widebody rear fender flairs off.
Previous owner did a major hackjob putting the kit on.
Already started cutting one side to make room for the 10.5" rear wheels.
Took the trunk lid and rear bumper home from the paint shop.

MidniteBluBenz · 03-06-2008, 04:57 PM

BADASS car dood!!

Rio Z Lander · 03-13-2008, 07:45 AM

now that is freeking sick looking awsome work

Yacht Master · 03-20-2008, 11:35 PM

Don't know if you had seen this, sorry if you have.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOXRcRVOSCY&feature=user

Keep up the good work!

02-11-2008, 03:47 AM	#35
190eplease Newbie Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2 Drives: 94 ramvan	swap details i am going to be putting v-8's into two 190e's.just wondering if you want to give up some knowledge? possibly make a couple more x-members or ? also what do you have invested in that rack+pinion?

02-11-2008, 04:04 PM	#36
TruTaing MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Seattle Posts: 2,043 Drives: w203 m112	wow, awesome project... __________________

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02-17-2008, 07:02 PM	#38
Gen3Benz Almost a Member! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 53 Drives: '07 Toyota Tacoma, '89 LS190, '07 Kawasaki Ultra 250X	It's been a while since I have updated... tanktube67, Cant wait to make vids of the car driving. It moves on its own power now, no more pushing. I do all the work on the weekends at my shop. Now for some pics... Mounted an aluminum expansion tank with some tabs welded to the bulkhead, need to repaint a little. Used some heat shrink hose clamps on the coolant tee's, look pretty sweet IMO. Painted the removable center bulkhead piece and mounted the flexible trans dipstick and passenger side brake line. Made some custom brake lines, also my 180 degree braided fuel line fittings. I need to do something about the ugly master cylinder reservoir, this works for now. Running low speed fans(20A) through ballest resistor and high speed fans(40A) through 80A continuous duty relay. They both have thier own relay in the fusebox, controlled by the PCM which I have reprogrammed to run a 2-speed single instead of 2-speed double fan setup. The large battery cable going towards the engine routes all the way to a firewall pass-through next to the starter. I ran an SL battery cable from the other side to the trunk. Had a guy at a body shop I know paint the front fenders... and front bumper. The rest of the car will be painted soon, now that I can move the car without pushing. Slowly but surely. __________________ 190e LS1 V8 Engine Swap.....in progress. LS190 Vid of LS190 running Last edited by Gen3Benz; 02-17-2008 at 07:18 PM.

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weneakhborz Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 89	any news here? __________________ Fear is JUST a Word on my T-shirt "NO Fear"

10-29-2007, 07:58 PM	#29
cfourthree Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NYC Posts: 314 Drives: 98 c43	that youtube link made me giggle. I love horsepower cars and miss my jetta very much. I know jetta... but with a vr6 and a gt35/40r turbo I made a bit over 500whp. Shocked the **** out of people, as I assume your car will. LOVE the project, absolutely awesome!! I will be watching. Can I see pics of the whole car? Thanks andrew

11-07-2007, 11:38 AM	#31
cfourthree Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NYC Posts: 314 Drives: 98 c43	lots of bad?? You have a sick motor in it. Its a start. Plus the evo kit in nice. What are the plans for the outside?

11-13-2007, 02:38 PM	#34
cfourthree Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NYC Posts: 314 Drives: 98 c43	http://mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=218066

02-17-2008, 08:04 PM	#39
omegabenz6 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 295	Adam, its coming along well. What is a good source for AN fittings as you have?

02-21-2008, 08:43 PM	#43
TruTaing MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Seattle Posts: 2,043 Drives: w203 m112	Keep us updated. This is a really cool project __________________

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02-22-2008, 05:14 PM	#45
EdzBenz Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 440 Drives: W210 W140	Wow. Very cool project. __________________ Ed 1984 190D 2.2L, 5-speed, grey market (bought @ 30,000 miles sold @ 170,000 miles) 1999 E300DT 159,000 miles 1999 S500 Grand Edition 65,000 miles

03-06-2008, 03:40 AM	#46
TruTaing MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Seattle Posts: 2,043 Drives: w203 m112	updates? __________________

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