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Modifying .dat files (engineering mode)
Last edited by jkv11503; 10-11-2009 at 07:02 PM. |
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Sure; I'm game. I have had success in decompiling code; in the old days I could decompile anything.
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By the way, I don't think we actually need to modify the code, but rather just find a way to decipher it to determine if the Engineering Mode "keycodes" are indeed present as I suspect they are. |
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Looked through your posts but couldn't find where you listed this. Would you mind re-listing it for the benefit of the membership.
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Here are the instructions: Changing NAV Voice (step-by-step) Last edited by jkv11503; 10-13-2009 at 01:55 PM. Reason: added link |
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Finally I am glad to see somebody trying to figure this out it’s about time, I wish I can help but I am not too good with programming and software side. Keep up the good work and keep us posted.
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Any update
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Nothing yet. Will post update as soon as we have more information. Maybe this weekend.
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Cool good luck!
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you are on the right track... but its not going to be anywhere as easy as the nav voice mod... im pretty sure that mb made a code change to remove the engineering menu so you are going to have to disassemble the base code which is i believe ARM machine code... (the telematics software was written in C++ but since its compiled there is no source code to look through) that means break out the telematics update dvd into individual files and reverse them in a program like IDA Pro... once you do that you can find those same references to the engineering menu as above and then find the code sections that reference them.... |
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The keycode to access the Engineering Mode was posted in a seperate thread.... W203 Command APS Engineering Menu
I don't know how many models this keycode applies to; however, I can confirm that it works on the '05 W211 with the HU service (software) update. Will keep looking for a way to access the Secret Menu. Last edited by jkv11503; 10-21-2009 at 04:05 PM. |
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no problem.. here ill give you the 30 second tutorial on exactly how to find the code you want... (i do reverse engineering for a living)
The easiest way to find it is to follow the button presses. so first you need to find how the buttons are mapped to the inputs on the processor. To do this you basically need to open up a comand and use an ohmmeter to probe the circuit between the actual button and the processor (e.g. put one lead on the switched side of the button and then move the other around the leads on the processor looking for the resistance to drop when the button is pressed. this allows you to know that button X terminates at pin # Y on the processor. Then you get the manual for the processor from the manufacturers site and look up the pin # and see what port name that it is assigned to. Do this for each button used to get into engineering mode... Once thats done you go back into IDA (preferrably with the older firmware first) and look for each instance where those same port values are read by the processor and at each point is potential code of interest. Then you follow through the code to look for a instructions that specifically check for the same combination of buttons and see where that code goes. That will be the engineering mode entry routine. then look at the newer firmware to see whats different in that same area... |
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Care to donate your Comand for the good of the forum? ![]() Seriously, thanks for the 30-second lesson. The instructions sound pretty straightforward; however, I'm not too keen on opening up my Comand. Maybe someone here has a spare unit that they can use for testing purposes. In the meantime, I'll keep poking around the code in hopes of making a miraculous discovery. |
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just not one from an E...
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If you have a chance, take a look through your supplies and see if you have a W203 (C-class?) Comand. It appears to use the same code to access the engineering mode as does the W211 (E-class). Perhaps it is also the same for the secret menu.
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What OS is used in our COMANDs?
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I have a W203 command but its not the same hardware as the W211... the W203 is the MCS2 unit and has the AGW built in whereas the W211 does not...
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it depends on what platform... mostly UNIX/QNX RTOS but some variants are linux and others are WIN CE
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I found out it is VXworks OS.
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