BRAKE Pad, Rotors, & Calipers Discussion Thread (OEM, aftermarket, etc...) - Page 12

HakkinenL · 04-19-2006, 11:07 AM

I have heard braking power for those low brake dust ones is not as good compared to stock ones.
Is it true?

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Buellwinkle · 04-19-2006, 11:44 AM

I had Portefields on my 2002 and they were low dust and grabbed slightly better, the only downside is cost and squeal if not installed properly. GPI-AMG didn't say what car he has but if it's a late model sport sedan or AMG with the 2 piston calipers, MB sells a low dust pad that comes on the newer cars that works as well as the Porterfields. The Pagid/Mintex/Textar pads are OEM style pads with OEM style dust. Their big advantage is price.

MJ50 · 04-19-2006, 12:22 PM

i have oem pads for BBK and it's got less dust compared to stock one...

drexappeal · 04-19-2006, 01:02 PM

My experience with the porterfields I have on my car right now. Slightly better stopping power. Significantly less dust than OEM.

MB-BOB · 04-19-2006, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buellwinkle

The Pagid/Mintex/Textar pads are OEM style pads with OEM style dust.

Not true, in my experience. I've had Pagid aftermarket pads on mine for the last year. They throw about 1/3 as much dust as the OEM pads (Lucas OEMs, in my case.) So, that is quite an improvement. I notice absolutely no difference in braking performance.

Notice each of these cars come with a variety of OEM pads from the factory. So the results you get with replacement pads will vary, according to what you start out with.

jac1502 · 04-19-2006, 04:07 PM

I have an 06 and I really need low dust pads, I can’t drive 30 miles (over exaggerating a bit) with minimal braking and not have brake residue all over my front wheels. Are all those pads available for my design caliper and if so where?

Buellwinkle · 04-19-2006, 04:51 PM

What model '06 do you have, the Sport Sedan or Luxury Sedan, they both have different calipers/pads/rotors.

jac1502 · 04-19-2006, 05:10 PM

sport sorry

Buellwinkle · 04-19-2006, 06:29 PM

Your dealer has low dust pads for the sport sedan models (2004.5 or newer) and the older AMG models. My car came that way from the factory and the dust level are much lower than my 2002. Also, it depends on your tollerance for dust. My 2002 would look like they need to cleaned after driving them around the block. After one week they would be mostly black. My 2004.5 just has a dusting after a week of driving, not black but noticibly dirty. The Porterfield pads would be similar to the MB low dust pads.

rubensans · 04-19-2006, 06:54 PM

The OEM LOW DUST pads are nearly the same as the normal ones.

I know that because I run new low dust pads for the C32/C55.

Best Regards.

drexappeal · 04-19-2006, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buellwinkle

My 2004.5 just has a dusting after a week of driving, not black but noticibly dirty. The Porterfield pads would be similar to the MB low dust pads.

Buellwinkle, after carefully comparing the dust from the 2004.5's to the Porterfields, the Porterfield's have been much better with brake dust. It was tolerant with the 2004.5 OEM pads, but the Porterfield's have even lower brake dust than that. Granted, I don't have a heavy brake foot, but I also drive through hills every day (not always downshifting).

Buellwinkle · 04-19-2006, 08:29 PM

I'll have to try them. I was comparing my 2004.5 with the oem low dust pads to the 2002 I had with Porterfields and I found them to be very close but possibly the Porterfields on the larger brakes will dust less than they did on the 2002. I tried Porterfields on my kid's Mustang, wow, huge amounts of dust compared to Ford oem pads so I guess each application is different.

Moviela · 04-19-2006, 09:40 PM

The Porterfields have a lot less dust that adheres to the wheels because they do not meet the minimum braking effort required of OEM pads. They do, as previously noted, have better stopping power. This is even more true after several sucessive severe stops. How do they do this? They don't use brown sugar in their formula for the friction material like ATE, Jurid, Pagid, & Textar do.

I found that super slippery wheels do not retain as much dust from stock pads. I use instant detailer or rainX on the painted wheels. They stay clean longer. When racing, I use only instant detailer on the Centerlines, It makes it so much easier to remove those rubber tire scraps from the wheels and lower body.

GPI · 04-20-2006, 12:03 AM

I drive an '02 C240. Have you guys heard of Hawk Performance ceramic brake pads? Is anyone using them?

ChaRgeC230 · 05-17-2006, 07:32 PM

so i spent 2 days searching the site about brake pads and couldnt come up with a straight answer. i know i have the 2 piston brake caliper. went to autozone and checkers and both had pads for 2005 c230 but doesnt say anything about sports package, so i dont know if it'll fit. wondering if anyone on here change theres yet?
stealer quoted 110 for fronts. *too much break dust*
any other options?

alboogiee · 05-17-2006, 07:44 PM

seak and ye will find (STFF)

BabyBenz6spd · 05-17-2006, 09:28 PM

I'm looking here for my brake pads, http://www.perfectbrakes.com/default.asp

e1000 · 05-17-2006, 10:10 PM

lol - all 2005 C230's have the sport package

patrick_y · 05-18-2006, 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e1000

lol - all 2005 C230's have the sport package

Yea... At least they do in this country. Unless you were looking in a foreign Autozone.

I wouldn't trust brakes from Autozone. You own a Mercedes, get everything done right, and keep everything up to code. No point in sacrificing your safety with something from autozone.

ChaRgeC230 · 05-18-2006, 01:31 AM

i talked to the parts advisor and he told me there were two different kind of pads for the 2005 c230 komp. thats y i was confused. he said some 2005 c230 came without the sports package??

On this website they have one listed for sports

http://catalog.eautopartscatalog.com...uymbparts.com/

and non sports.. both 2005 c230 komp.

http://catalog.eautopartscatalog.com...uymbparts.com/

e1000 · 05-18-2006, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patrick_y

Yea... At least they do in this country. Unless you were looking in a foreign Autozone.

I wouldn't trust brakes from Autozone. You own a Mercedes, get everything done right, and keep everything up to code. No point in sacrificing your safety with something from autozone.

his profile said LasVegas NV.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChaRgeC230

talked to the parts advisor and he told me there were two different kind of pads for the 2005 c230 komp. thats y i was confused. he said some 2005 c230 came without the sports package??

On this website they have one listed for sports

http://catalog.eautopartscatalog.com...uymbparts.com/

and non sports.. both 2005 c230 komp.

http://catalog.eautopartscatalog.com...uymbparts.com/

That particular site may be confused as to exactly what model came in what trim. The C320 did come in both Sport and Luxury so they may have applied that logic to the C230 as well. All 2005 C230's sold in the US are the Sport versions.

There has been some discussion here about if some of the 2005 models came equiped with the 4-piston calipers vs. the 2-piston calipers. There's a thread that's maybe a week old with exact part numbers and pics, I'd start there. If you have trouble finding it, let me know and I'll dig it up.

MiKeSSw203 · 06-30-2006, 04:30 PM

Does anyone happen to have the front and rear brake pad part numbers for a 05 c230?

MJ50 · 06-30-2006, 07:02 PM

front: A 004 420 05 20
rear: not sure

redstack · 06-30-2006, 08:28 PM

when searching the forum for brake jobs I found mention of the autozone brake pads. But I wasn't able to determine if the 230 coupe (supposed sports) use the same brake pads as a standard c 230 sedan etc. Any one know?

redstack · 06-30-2006, 08:46 PM

Um what's this about a 2004.5 big brake kit? How would I know which one I have?

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04-19-2006, 11:44 AM	#277
Buellwinkle MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Laguna Niguel, CA Posts: 6,187	I had Portefields on my 2002 and they were low dust and grabbed slightly better, the only downside is cost and squeal if not installed properly. GPI-AMG didn't say what car he has but if it's a late model sport sedan or AMG with the 2 piston calipers, MB sells a low dust pad that comes on the newer cars that works as well as the Porterfields. The Pagid/Mintex/Textar pads are OEM style pads with OEM style dust. Their big advantage is price. __________________ 2004.5 C230K Sport Sedan - Pewter/Charcoal - 6-spd - Comand 1998 SLK230 - White www.Buellwinkle.com

04-19-2006, 12:22 PM	#278
MJ50 MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: S. Pasadena, CA Posts: 8,929 Drives: W203 & W211	i have oem pads for BBK and it's got less dust compared to stock one... __________________ 2003 C240 MBenzNL (PTS, IMS, euro COMAND, folding/convex mirrors, euro bi-xenons, SAM, MHI, euro trunklid, euro mat, steering wheel, etc...) 2004 E55 MBenzNL (057,219,390,428,500,527,615,682,816,881,882,884, CLS63 IC, AMG Airbag, iPod, Euro Door Pins/Convex Mirrors/Trunklid), SL65 rims, RENNtech pulley 2004 ML350 MBenzNL (rearview mirror, AMG style steering wheel, euro convex mirror) SOLD 323.205.MJ50 Google Voice

04-19-2006, 01:02 PM	#279
drexappeal Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: West Los Angeles Posts: 7,589 Drives: Midnight Blue 2004.5 C230 Kompressor Sport Sedan w/ Lighting, Comfort, Sunroof and Bose	My experience with the porterfields I have on my car right now. Slightly better stopping power. Significantly less dust than OEM. __________________ w203 FTMFW! w204 FTMFL! LINK - Current Mods LINK - Full Car Pics LINK: Supercharger and Exhaust Video

04-19-2006, 04:07 PM	#281
jac1502 Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 231 Drives: 2006 C230WZ	I have an 06 and I really need low dust pads, I can’t drive 30 miles (over exaggerating a bit) with minimal braking and not have brake residue all over my front wheels. Are all those pads available for my design caliper and if so where? __________________ 1997 Jeep TJ 2006 c230wz 1981 corvette (Sold) :( 2001 Yamaha R6

04-19-2006, 04:51 PM	#282
Buellwinkle MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Laguna Niguel, CA Posts: 6,187	What model '06 do you have, the Sport Sedan or Luxury Sedan, they both have different calipers/pads/rotors. __________________ 2004.5 C230K Sport Sedan - Pewter/Charcoal - 6-spd - Comand 1998 SLK230 - White www.Buellwinkle.com

04-19-2006, 05:10 PM	#283
jac1502 Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 231 Drives: 2006 C230WZ	sport sorry __________________ 1997 Jeep TJ 2006 c230wz 1981 corvette (Sold) :( 2001 Yamaha R6

04-19-2006, 06:29 PM	#284
Buellwinkle MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Laguna Niguel, CA Posts: 6,187	Your dealer has low dust pads for the sport sedan models (2004.5 or newer) and the older AMG models. My car came that way from the factory and the dust level are much lower than my 2002. Also, it depends on your tollerance for dust. My 2002 would look like they need to cleaned after driving them around the block. After one week they would be mostly black. My 2004.5 just has a dusting after a week of driving, not black but noticibly dirty. The Porterfield pads would be similar to the MB low dust pads. __________________ 2004.5 C230K Sport Sedan - Pewter/Charcoal - 6-spd - Comand 1998 SLK230 - White www.Buellwinkle.com

04-19-2006, 06:54 PM	#285
rubensans MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Barcelona-Spain Posts: 958 Drives: Brabus K3	The OEM LOW DUST pads are nearly the same as the normal ones. I know that because I run new low dust pads for the C32/C55. Best Regards. __________________ W203CL 003, 018, 103, 142, 201, 249, 345, 352, 354, 413, 423, 486, 551, 581, 600, 615, 673, 682, 772, 802, 852, 873, 882, 926, 949, 988. W164 U12, U61, 220, 242, 245, 249, 275, 293, 301, 345, 404, 405, 438, 475, 481, 489, 500, 527, 550, 551, 581, 596, 600, 615, 682, 690, 720, 723, 772, 787, 810, 819, 840, 873, 882, 889, 890, 900.

04-19-2006, 08:29 PM	#287
Buellwinkle MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Laguna Niguel, CA Posts: 6,187	I'll have to try them. I was comparing my 2004.5 with the oem low dust pads to the 2002 I had with Porterfields and I found them to be very close but possibly the Porterfields on the larger brakes will dust less than they did on the 2002. I tried Porterfields on my kid's Mustang, wow, huge amounts of dust compared to Ford oem pads so I guess each application is different. __________________ 2004.5 C230K Sport Sedan - Pewter/Charcoal - 6-spd - Comand 1998 SLK230 - White www.Buellwinkle.com

04-19-2006, 09:40 PM	#288
Moviela MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Orange County Posts: 2,146 Drives: 2005 C Wagon (No snickering please!)	The Porterfields have a lot less dust that adheres to the wheels because they do not meet the minimum braking effort required of OEM pads. They do, as previously noted, have better stopping power. This is even more true after several sucessive severe stops. How do they do this? They don't use brown sugar in their formula for the friction material like ATE, Jurid, Pagid, & Textar do. I found that super slippery wheels do not retain as much dust from stock pads. I use instant detailer or rainX on the painted wheels. They stay clean longer. When racing, I use only instant detailer on the Centerlines, It makes it so much easier to remove those rubber tire scraps from the wheels and lower body.

04-20-2006, 12:03 AM	#289
GPI MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Rowland Heights,CA Posts: 1,032 Drives: W203 (sold), W204 (sold), W124	I drive an '02 C240. Have you guys heard of Hawk Performance ceramic brake pads? Is anyone using them?

05-17-2006, 07:32 PM	#290
ChaRgeC230 Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Las Vegas NV Posts: 215 Drives: 05 c230 SS	05 brake pads so i spent 2 days searching the site about brake pads and couldnt come up with a straight answer. i know i have the 2 piston brake caliper. went to autozone and checkers and both had pads for 2005 c230 but doesnt say anything about sports package, so i dont know if it'll fit. wondering if anyone on here change theres yet? stealer quoted 110 for fronts. too much break dust any other options? __________________ Black 2005 c230 SS

05-17-2006, 07:44 PM	#291
alboogiee Super Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ellsworth AFB, Rapid City South Dakota Posts: 748 Drives: 2006 C55 AMG	seak and ye will find (STFF) __________________

05-17-2006, 09:28 PM	#292
BabyBenz6spd Super Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Illinois, Indiana Posts: 798 Drives: 2005 C230 Sedan 6spd	I'm looking here for my brake pads, http://www.perfectbrakes.com/default.asp __________________ 2005 C230 Sport Sedan 6spd

05-17-2006, 10:10 PM	#293
e1000 Out Of Control!! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: OC Posts: 17,915 Drives: without using his blinker	lol - all 2005 C230's have the sport package __________________ 2006 C350 Sport Sedan \| Iridium Silver Metallic • Black interior • 7G-Tronic • Sunroof package • Lighting Package • 6-Disk Changer • Heated Seats • Split Folding Rear Seats Mods \| MP-Design CF interior • HID high beams • HID fog lights • Full LED Tail light conversion • Euroteck CF lip • MB iPod integration kit • Staggered 19” Bremmas • CCFL License plate lights • 2007 Chrome SmartKey • MB Side Fixed Sun Blinds

05-18-2006, 01:31 AM	#295
ChaRgeC230 Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Las Vegas NV Posts: 215 Drives: 05 c230 SS	i talked to the parts advisor and he told me there were two different kind of pads for the 2005 c230 komp. thats y i was confused. he said some 2005 c230 came without the sports package?? On this website they have one listed for sports http://catalog.eautopartscatalog.com...uymbparts.com/ and non sports.. both 2005 c230 komp. http://catalog.eautopartscatalog.com...uymbparts.com/ __________________ Black 2005 c230 SS

06-30-2006, 04:30 PM	#297
MiKeSSw203 MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: South Coast Metro/Cerritos/Yorba Linda California Posts: 1,155 Drives: is slow... but sips gas and looks good at the stop light	Brake pad part number need Does anyone happen to have the front and rear brake pad part numbers for a 05 c230? __________________

06-30-2006, 07:02 PM	#298
MJ50 MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: S. Pasadena, CA Posts: 8,929 Drives: W203 & W211	front: A 004 420 05 20 rear: not sure __________________ 2003 C240 MBenzNL (PTS, IMS, euro COMAND, folding/convex mirrors, euro bi-xenons, SAM, MHI, euro trunklid, euro mat, steering wheel, etc...) 2004 E55 MBenzNL (057,219,390,428,500,527,615,682,816,881,882,884, CLS63 IC, AMG Airbag, iPod, Euro Door Pins/Convex Mirrors/Trunklid), SL65 rims, RENNtech pulley 2004 ML350 MBenzNL (rearview mirror, AMG style steering wheel, euro convex mirror) SOLD 323.205.MJ50 Google Voice

06-30-2006, 08:28 PM	#299
redstack Newbie Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: pcola fl Posts: 13 Drives: 04 c230 coupe	04 c230 sport coupe brake pads when searching the forum for brake jobs I found mention of the autozone brake pads. But I wasn't able to determine if the 230 coupe (supposed sports) use the same brake pads as a standard c 230 sedan etc. Any one know?

06-30-2006, 08:46 PM	#300
redstack Newbie Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: pcola fl Posts: 13 Drives: 04 c230 coupe	04.5 big brakes? Um what's this about a 2004.5 big brake kit? How would I know which one I have?

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