W203/CL203 Aftermarket Exhaust Thread - All you want to know

shtatc · 12-20-2001, 03:33 PM

Looking to upgrade muffler, but don't want to have to cut out rear valence or buy a new one....seems like most aftermarket mufflers have straight tips...looked at Brabus, Lorinser, Renntech, AMG...all have straight tips....anyone have any recommendations? Thanks.
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patronus · 12-20-2001, 03:49 PM

I have been looking into this for my C240. I have found the following:

- AMG is a muffler only, requires cutting existing pipes and welding on this new muffler as well as modifying the bumper skirt. It is $640.

- Eisenmann is a muffler only system, weld on, modify the skirt. It is about $600.

- Brabus is $1500. That is where I stopped.

- Super Sprint seems to really engineer their systems for true performance gain rather than just sound. They require no welding and no bumper skirt mods. They sell a muffler and resonator as separate pieces, clamp together. The down side is that it is about $950 system.

The major bummer of all of this is that a customer cannot hear or feel the differences without buying and installing the system. They should post .wav files of the exaust note and graphs of HP increases on their web pages.

All of that said, I am going with the SuperSprint when it becomes available in Feb.

shtatc · 12-20-2001, 04:27 PM

patronus
Thanks,

I saw the Super Sprint mufflers myself also...but they did have any listed for the C240. There is another company, Fabspeed, I believe....they make custom mufflers for different cars...they have a wave file for their muffler on a Porsche.....thought that was cool...
but, I am still searching....thanks again for your help.

SoCal240/6 · 12-20-2001, 08:42 PM

you guys should get under your car some day and check out your stock exhaust.

It is a stainless steel work of art!

Unless your goal is to just have a noisier muffler.

wizkid · 12-20-2001, 09:31 PM

Our exhaust is stainless???? WOW! Freekn' MB is the stuff.

ERic

shtatc · 12-21-2001, 11:12 AM

I checked the stock muffler....just checking into something that might help out with some performance....although it may be minimal.....have checked into different things to do to increase horsepower....thought freer flowing muffler would be a start....unfortunately...once you start modifiying the motor, you void the original warranty....so, I was looking for things that would not void the warranty and would be simple....thanks for your input.....

atsang311 · 12-22-2001, 03:01 AM

I am planning to upgrade the muffler system too. I was interested in AMG, Brabus and Remus. But after all the research, I believe I have to modify the bumper first. So I will not get a new muffler because I don't want to make any changes on the bumper. Now I will consider to buy a "CHROME EXHAUST TIP" instead. Of course,I know it will not work as good as a new muffler system. But at least it know better than the stock.
Anyone intesested in "CHROME EXHAUST TIP", please visit
http://www.autoclass.net/catalog/mer.../exterior.html

________________

2001 C320 C2/C6/Xenon/CD/Headlight Ring/Brilliant Silver

b4chow · 12-31-2001, 05:09 PM

Does anyone know how the exhaust works when I run it dual? I see a lot of it on ones with bodykits? Do I need two mufflers?

MyRa on FiYa · 01-03-2002, 02:49 PM

Dual exhaust for a c-class consist of one muffler with dual tips. One tip stretches out to the other side. Two mufflers cant fit cuz of the tire. JoReL has that , you should go ask him for pix and info.

Jorel C320 · 01-05-2002, 05:34 PM

Myra's rite.....ILL have pix once i get my grill upgrade

b4chow · 01-07-2002, 03:40 AM

Anyone know the model of a Renntech Exhaust that would fit on a 2002 C320? Preferably square tips

b4chow · 01-07-2002, 03:43 AM

Looking for a remus exhaust...

Fuzzo · 02-17-2002, 08:25 PM

Can you post pics of your dual exhaust. I was wondering what you did with your other exhaust pipe on the left side?

Jorel C320 · 02-18-2002, 03:08 AM

SORRY FUZZO...THE ONLY PIX I HAVE RIGHT NOW ARE THE CRAPPY ONES FROM THE OTHER POSTS'.

WELL THE ONLY WAY TO DO A DUAL "STYLE" EXHAUST WITHOUT TAKING OUT THE SPARE IS TO USE ONLY ONE MUFFLER. ITS NOT THE WAY I WANTED IT TO BE BUT I HAD NO CHOICE. WHAT I DID WAS CHANGE THE PIPES AND MUFLLER. THE MUFFLER HAD TWO TIPS THAT SPLIT AND RAN UNDER THE BUMPER. (LOOKING LIKE A DUAL EXHAUST. THE ONLY THING I DONT LIKE BOUT THE TIPS IS THAT IT COMES DOWN SO U CANT SEE THE MUFFLER....ALMOST LIKE THE CHROME TIPS EVERYONE IS BUYING. FEEL FREE TO ASK ANYMORE QUESTIONS.

heres the crappy quality pix again....ITS REALLY CHROME OK!

Fuzzo · 02-18-2002, 03:25 PM

ok i think i understand....please post pics when you get a chance...

Fuzzo · 02-20-2002, 11:45 AM

I found this on a website for a car club in indonesia....

Fuzzo · 02-20-2002, 11:46 AM

One more....

bagwell · 02-20-2002, 11:52 AM

stock .....yeh sure !...looks like they bolted on freakin 20" rims

not stock exhaust either !

Harris · 02-20-2002, 01:09 PM

It looks like Carlsson 1/6 there. It MIGHT have the Carlsson dual exhaust for the C-class.

But personally, I dont like the fender covering the rear wheels. Just not what a MB should look!

revstriker · 02-20-2002, 01:14 PM

I really don't like those rims! They remind me of the big silver discs that we used as a kid to sled down hills in the winter. I'm not a "huge tire" fan to start with which probably adds to my dislike.

Not sure about my opinion of the exaust. I think I'd have to see it straight on from the rear to have a better opinion.

Thanks for posting the pics.

Mach430 · 02-20-2002, 01:17 PM

Quad Exhaust is definitely not stock. MH-Dezent is the only company that I'm aware makes a quad exhaust system for the C Class.

Fuzzo · 02-20-2002, 03:17 PM

personally i dont like the wheels either... a bit to plane for me.. i'm more of a 5 spoke type of person...

but i do like the quad exhaust... i was just wondering if it was stock of euro delivery cars etc?

BrabusCClass · 02-20-2002, 03:22 PM

I think the car looks nice. I wonder what size those rims are. They are really BIG. I wonder how his ride is. Nice exhausts. At the LA Auto show last year they had 3 C class W203 with quad exhaust. Too bad I didnt take a picture of them. They were pretty nice.

Fuzzo · 02-20-2002, 03:25 PM

i would say they are atleast 19's...probably even 20's... possible??? anyone??

BrabusCClass · 02-20-2002, 03:29 PM

I think maybe 20's. Ive seen a few W203 with 19" and they dont look like that.

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12-31-2001, 05:09 PM	#8
b4chow Super Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 565	Exhaust Does anyone know how the exhaust works when I run it dual? I see a lot of it on ones with bodykits? Do I need two mufflers?

01-03-2002, 02:49 PM	#9
MyRa on FiYa Newbie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Cerritoes Posts: 7 Drives: C320	Dual exhaust for a c-class consist of one muffler with dual tips. One tip stretches out to the other side. Two mufflers cant fit cuz of the tire. JoReL has that , you should go ask him for pix and info. __________________ MYRA "Fixin up a car aint a crime, but if it looks ugly, then it is" 2001 C320 by day 1998 TT Supra by night

01-05-2002, 05:34 PM	#10
Jorel C320 MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Corona, CA Posts: 3,435 Drives: 2001 C320	Myra's rite.....ILL have pix once i get my grill upgrade __________________

01-07-2002, 03:40 AM	#11
b4chow Super Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 565	Renntech Exhaust Anyone know the model of a Renntech Exhaust that would fit on a 2002 C320? Preferably square tips

12-20-2001, 03:49 PM	#2
patronus Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Vancouver, WA Posts: 247 Drives: 2001 C240 / 6-speed	I have been looking into this for my C240. I have found the following: - AMG is a muffler only, requires cutting existing pipes and welding on this new muffler as well as modifying the bumper skirt. It is $640. - Eisenmann is a muffler only system, weld on, modify the skirt. It is about $600. - Brabus is $1500. That is where I stopped. - Super Sprint seems to really engineer their systems for true performance gain rather than just sound. They require no welding and no bumper skirt mods. They sell a muffler and resonator as separate pieces, clamp together. The down side is that it is about $950 system. The major bummer of all of this is that a customer cannot hear or feel the differences without buying and installing the system. They should post .wav files of the exaust note and graphs of HP increases on their web pages. All of that said, I am going with the SuperSprint when it becomes available in Feb.

12-20-2001, 04:27 PM	#3
shtatc Super Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Oro Valley, AZ Posts: 572 Drives: 2001 C240 6spd	patronus Thanks, I saw the Super Sprint mufflers myself also...but they did have any listed for the C240. There is another company, Fabspeed, I believe....they make custom mufflers for different cars...they have a wave file for their muffler on a Porsche.....thought that was cool... but, I am still searching....thanks again for your help.

12-20-2001, 08:42 PM	#4
SoCal240/6 Banned Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 738 Drives: '01 C240/6	you guys should get under your car some day and check out your stock exhaust. It is a stainless steel work of art! Unless your goal is to just have a noisier muffler.

12-20-2001, 09:31 PM	#5
wizkid Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: East TN Posts: 419 Drives: 2002 C240	Our exhaust is stainless???? WOW! Freekn' MB is the stuff. ERic

12-21-2001, 11:12 AM	#6
shtatc Super Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Oro Valley, AZ Posts: 572 Drives: 2001 C240 6spd	I checked the stock muffler....just checking into something that might help out with some performance....although it may be minimal.....have checked into different things to do to increase horsepower....thought freer flowing muffler would be a start....unfortunately...once you start modifiying the motor, you void the original warranty....so, I was looking for things that would not void the warranty and would be simple....thanks for your input.....

12-22-2001, 03:01 AM	#7
atsang311 Almost a Member! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 36 Drives: 06 ML350; 05 Infiniti G35 Coupe	I am planning to upgrade the muffler system too. I was interested in AMG, Brabus and Remus. But after all the research, I believe I have to modify the bumper first. So I will not get a new muffler because I don't want to make any changes on the bumper. Now I will consider to buy a "CHROME EXHAUST TIP" instead. Of course,I know it will not work as good as a new muffler system. But at least it know better than the stock. Anyone intesested in "CHROME EXHAUST TIP", please visit http://www.autoclass.net/catalog/mer.../exterior.html ________________ 2001 C320 C2/C6/Xenon/CD/Headlight Ring/Brilliant Silver

01-07-2002, 03:43 AM	#12
b4chow Super Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 565	Remus not Renntech, Sorry Looking for a remus exhaust...

02-17-2002, 08:25 PM	#13
Fuzzo MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Sri Lanka Posts: 4,327	JOrel - Exhaust question for you Can you post pics of your dual exhaust. I was wondering what you did with your other exhaust pipe on the left side? __________________ Farzan Cardomain link Link to my ad on hotornot ....Is anyone giving me a 10? even if you are guy.. would you hook me up! :)

02-18-2002, 03:08 AM	#14
Jorel C320 MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Corona, CA Posts: 3,435 Drives: 2001 C320	SORRY FUZZO...THE ONLY PIX I HAVE RIGHT NOW ARE THE CRAPPY ONES FROM THE OTHER POSTS'. WELL THE ONLY WAY TO DO A DUAL "STYLE" EXHAUST WITHOUT TAKING OUT THE SPARE IS TO USE ONLY ONE MUFFLER. ITS NOT THE WAY I WANTED IT TO BE BUT I HAD NO CHOICE. WHAT I DID WAS CHANGE THE PIPES AND MUFLLER. THE MUFFLER HAD TWO TIPS THAT SPLIT AND RAN UNDER THE BUMPER. (LOOKING LIKE A DUAL EXHAUST. THE ONLY THING I DONT LIKE BOUT THE TIPS IS THAT IT COMES DOWN SO U CANT SEE THE MUFFLER....ALMOST LIKE THE CHROME TIPS EVERYONE IS BUYING. FEEL FREE TO ASK ANYMORE QUESTIONS. heres the crappy quality pix again....ITS REALLY CHROME OK! __________________

02-18-2002, 03:25 PM	#15
Fuzzo MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Sri Lanka Posts: 4,327	ok i think i understand....please post pics when you get a chance... __________________ Farzan Cardomain link Link to my ad on hotornot ....Is anyone giving me a 10? even if you are guy.. would you hook me up! :)

02-20-2002, 11:45 AM	#16
Fuzzo MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Sri Lanka Posts: 4,327	double tipped dual exhaust...is this stock? I found this on a website for a car club in indonesia.... __________________ Farzan Cardomain link Link to my ad on hotornot ....Is anyone giving me a 10? even if you are guy.. would you hook me up! :)

02-20-2002, 11:46 AM	#17
Fuzzo MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Sri Lanka Posts: 4,327	One more.... __________________ Farzan Cardomain link Link to my ad on hotornot ....Is anyone giving me a 10? even if you are guy.. would you hook me up! :)

02-20-2002, 11:52 AM	#18
bagwell MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Houston,TX-moving to The Woodlands,TX SOON!!! Posts: 2,037 Drives: Toyota Tacoma & Lexus IS250	stock .....yeh sure !...looks like they bolted on freakin 20" rims not stock exhaust either ! __________________ 2006 Lexus IS250 2002 Toyota Tacoma 2004 Corvette coupe-SOLD! 2001 MB C320 BIX/Euro COMAND/C32 wheels-SOLD!

02-20-2002, 01:09 PM	#19
Harris MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 4,439	It looks like Carlsson 1/6 there. It MIGHT have the Carlsson dual exhaust for the C-class. But personally, I dont like the fender covering the rear wheels. Just not what a MB should look!

02-20-2002, 01:14 PM	#20
revstriker Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Obama Land Posts: 11,905 Drives: K Car	I really don't like those rims! They remind me of the big silver discs that we used as a kid to sled down hills in the winter. I'm not a "huge tire" fan to start with which probably adds to my dislike. Not sure about my opinion of the exaust. I think I'd have to see it straight on from the rear to have a better opinion. Thanks for posting the pics. __________________ The end of Liberal Rule (Hopefully)

02-20-2002, 01:17 PM	#21
Mach430 Out Of Control!! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southern CA Posts: 35,856	Quad Exhaust is definitely not stock. MH-Dezent is the only company that I'm aware makes a quad exhaust system for the C Class. __________________

02-20-2002, 03:17 PM	#22
Fuzzo MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Sri Lanka Posts: 4,327	personally i dont like the wheels either... a bit to plane for me.. i'm more of a 5 spoke type of person... but i do like the quad exhaust... i was just wondering if it was stock of euro delivery cars etc? __________________ Farzan Cardomain link Link to my ad on hotornot ....Is anyone giving me a 10? even if you are guy.. would you hook me up! :)

02-20-2002, 03:22 PM	#23
BrabusCClass MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,850 Drives: 1999 C43 AMG	I think the car looks nice. I wonder what size those rims are. They are really BIG. I wonder how his ride is. Nice exhausts. At the LA Auto show last year they had 3 C class W203 with quad exhaust. Too bad I didnt take a picture of them. They were pretty nice. __________________ Lexus SC300 Porsche Boxster GT3 RS Kleemann C24k (sold) Last edited by BrabusCClass; 02-20-2002 at 03:24 PM.

02-20-2002, 03:25 PM	#24
Fuzzo MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Sri Lanka Posts: 4,327	i would say they are atleast 19's...probably even 20's... possible??? anyone?? __________________ Farzan Cardomain link Link to my ad on hotornot ....Is anyone giving me a 10? even if you are guy.. would you hook me up! :)

02-20-2002, 03:29 PM	#25
BrabusCClass MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,850 Drives: 1999 C43 AMG	I think maybe 20's. Ive seen a few W203 with 19" and they dont look like that. __________________ Lexus SC300 Porsche Boxster GT3 RS Kleemann C24k (sold)

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