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Old 06-10-2008, 02:28 PM   #1
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"STAGE 3 SURGE Adjustable Performance Chip w/ O2 Sensor Control"

Has anyone heard anything about this product?
I'm wondering if it could correct FA ratio's for pullied
and or + ported Superchargers.
Looks like the same idea as the K-Box? Or not?

What they say makes some sense.
02 sensor output effects FA ratio.
Modifying the signal would allow you some control or the FA ratio,
increasing it for overboosted cars, and perhaps eliminate the lean condition?

They also have seperate products for just the O2 sensor and also one for
altering the intake sensor temperature output.

I'm surprised I'd never heard of these before.
I wouldn't want to bolt on some untested crap though.
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Old 06-10-2008, 05:07 PM   #2
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Has anyone heard anything about this product?
I'm wondering if it could correct FA ratio's for pullied
and or + ported Superchargers.
Looks like the same idea as the K-Box? Or not?

What they say makes some sense.
02 sensor output effects FA ratio.
Modifying the signal would allow you some control or the FA ratio,
increasing it for overboosted cars, and perhaps eliminate the lean condition?

They also have seperate products for just the O2 sensor and also one for
altering the intake sensor temperature output.

I'm surprised I'd never heard of these before.
I wouldn't want to bolt on some untested crap though.
You definetly have my attention....
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Old 06-11-2008, 02:23 AM   #3
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...What they say makes some sense...
"…Gain +15-40 additional HP, and extremely dynamic acceleration by up to 30 %..acceleration will show attractive and surprising values, besides an extreme result can be expected when revving up the engine from a low to a higher RPM…"

Who is writing their ad copy? Kinda reads like one of my posts…after imbibing.

Be mindful that during WOT operation, the DME disregards any input from the Oxygen sensors. It relies solely upon its open loop, pre-programmed (flashed) tables’ to pulse the injectors in order to properly control A/F ratios. All bets are off when you’ve headed down the insufferable path of boosted boost.

If their ‘STAGE 3 SURGE Adjustable Performance Chip w/ O2 Sensor Control’ performs as claimed, you'll have only invested a paltry $309.98.
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Old 06-11-2008, 02:23 PM   #4
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A paltry 310?
I talked myself out of spending $15 yesterday on chrome side marker bulbs.
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Old 06-11-2008, 02:53 PM   #5
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"…Gain +15-40 additional HP, and extremely dynamic acceleration by up to 30 %..acceleration will show attractive and surprising values, besides an extreme result can be expected when revving up the engine from a low to a higher RPM…"

Who is writing their ad copy? Kinda reads like one of my posts…after imbibing.

Be mindful that during WOT operation, the DME disregards any input from the Oxygen sensors. It relies solely upon its open loop, pre-programmed (flashed) tables’ to pulse the injectors in order to properly control A/F ratios. All bets are off when you’ve headed down the insufferable path of boosted boost.

If their ‘STAGE 3 SURGE Adjustable Performance Chip w/ O2 Sensor Control’ performs as claimed, you'll have only invested a paltry $309.98.

Ahhh, good to know.....Boosted Boost!!
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Old 06-11-2008, 04:29 PM   #6
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E,
Are you boasting about your boosted boost?
Or are you basting a bird on the manifold of your boosted booster?
My booster was basted which is why i got a new booster, but chose not to boost the booster, as I was afraid to bast the block. I then boasted about my unboosted booster to any and all owner of boosted boosters.
Although I did remove the booster muffler which resulted in slightly more boosted boost.
Got all that?
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Old 06-12-2008, 06:12 PM   #7
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E,
Are you boasting about your boosted boost?
Or are you basting a bird on the manifold of your boosted booster?
My booster was basted which is why i got a new booster, but chose not to boost the booster, as I was afraid to bast the block. I then boasted about my unboosted booster to any and all owner of boosted boosters.
Although I did remove the booster muffler which resulted in slightly more boosted boost.
Got all that?
pffffft
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Old 06-13-2008, 04:57 AM   #8
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is this reliable???

worth it?
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you'll are crazy....but i like it!
how 'bout this:
http://www.passatworld.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=182011

it's real, it's legit, it's for sport bikes, but i want to try it. just searching around to see if the a/f ratio is the answer to modifying these engines. it seems the best solution so far was the kleeman k-box with the boost kit, but even that is limited. i want 300bhp with from a turbo....nyuk nyuk nyuk
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