My faclifting inc new Comand NTG 2.5

[Chris The Swede]

You need a G-class comand NTG 2.5. Only US version that fits your car.

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[acr2001]

Originally Posted by blkho

This is my first post here at mbworld! I love this site, I bought my first Mercedes this past weekend on saturday, I havnt stopped reading mbworld for the last 2 days now!

For my first mod to my car I would love to upgrade my HU.

I bought a 2007 MB c230 sport. with the 6 disk changer in the glove box..
what it doesnt have

• Comand HU
• iPod hookup (a 2007 without iPod just blows my mind)
• Bluetooth
• bluetooth wiring

I have read the AVIC thread and this one. I would prefer to upgrade with a MB HU rather then a aftermarket one.

What i want

• Navigation that works in the US
• Bluetooth that works with my iPhone 3GS
• iPod Control
• DVD movie playing thats hacked and can play while in motion
• All my steering wheel controls to work

Can any point me in the right direction..
NTG 2.5 or the Pioneer Avic Z110BT

My mind feels like its on overload with all that i have read in the last 2 days..

thanks

I would go with the MB unit unless price is an issue. If so, then I would get the MCS II comand unit and phone kit which does all of those things except DVD video (I guess I'm a purist, but aftermarket crap seems to devalue the car and never work / look as it should).

[OverDrive]

Ok Guys, Im attempting this with a 03 C32... With No Navi but With Bose System... I have bought every piece expect for the Ac system Im just waiting now for all the parts to come in.. The comand system is from an C55, This will answer the question if the comand can talk to the BOSE amp and produce sound....

[acr2001]

Originally Posted by OverDrive

Ok Guys, Im attempting this with a 03 C32... With No Navi but With Bose System... I have bought every piece expect for the Ac system Im just waiting now for all the parts to come in.. The comand system is from an C55, This will answer the question if the comand can talk to the BOSE amp and produce sound....

Huh?
If it's from a C55 it isn't an NTG 2 COMAND unit.
It is most likely an MCS-II.
I'm pretty sure it will not work with your Bose system or your stock cluster.

[acr2001]

Originally Posted by Chris The Swede

Then there must be a version without it off course..

If you can find a climate control panel that works, without the charcoal filter button or separate passenger side control for airflow (feet/vents/ etc) I think you will make a lot of people very happy! The 05+ W203 (other than the C320) does not have the charcoal filter or the seperate passenger side airflow settings.

[OverDrive]

Ya i could care less about the cluster.... and i knew it wouldn't work with that...I turn up and down the volume manualy anyway The wireloom should work as far as getting it to boot, I double checked.... Yeah then again, we don't know if it will work with teh bose... We all assume it won't and im not keeping my hopes up... Gives me a reason to upgrade the speakers and a new amp even though i love the Stock BOSE system As for the charcoal filter and separated passenger side control haha... I don't even use any of that. Its a weekend car ment to cruze... Go to the track and look good but yes ill have a go at it once i get the rest of the parts... I also need a GPS receiver/antenna addon

[scalerider83]

Hello Chris The Swede
you've sent me the link to the adapter cable for comand aps, but would it be also possible to buy the original cables from the w203 facelift for the comand aps and then change it? would be a lot more of work but my cables or connectors have some contact problem so it would be necessary to change them in any case.
as i've seen i have to change the bose sound system...
that means new amplifier (is there an amplifier that works with the aps or only stock harman kardon?) or maybe direct plug in loudspeakers into comand aps.
all in all it sounds like a lot of work, maybe i'll do it - after i've seen your work ( ) i would really like to do it.
last thing is the cluster - i would organise an used cluster from the w209 and then reprogram it (kilometers that my car has been driven, what else?) using stardiagnosis - but what have you done with the mentioned gaps? any idea to close them or fill them?

Regards Mario

[Chris The Swede]

Have no idea?

Dont know since the amp is built in to the Comand and bose is not. Might work with the H/K amp for about 800 Euro.

Cluster is described in the write up.

[BF_JC230]

Originally Posted by OverDrive

Ok Guys, Im attempting this with a 03 C32... With No Navi but With Bose System... I have bought every piece expect for the Ac system Im just waiting now for all the parts to come in.. The comand system is from an C55, This will answer the question if the comand can talk to the BOSE amp and produce sound....

I have a SPARE MANUAL (with the knobs, NO digital read out) HVAC Controller if you would like it shoot me a PM...

[blkho]

Originally Posted by Chris The Swede

You need a G-class comand NTG 2.5. Only US version that fits your car.

Can anyone shed some light on where to find one of these and what the cost should be.

I searched fleebay and no luck

thanks for the help

[OverDrive]

Depends where you get it from...I found the C55 one for 500.00 bucks so i said screw it, not the same really as the 2.5 (as its CDs) but should hopefully still work. Again guys its about trial and Error, Someone has to dish out the dough for it to see if it possible. We hope for a good outcome but they can't all be winners

[WaveyKat]

So did you find out if the CLK W209 Cluster Works ?

[Chris The Swede]

Still working on it since mine is an early 2001..It sure is a mess if you have an early 2001 model. After that there is much easier. The MAPS sensor replacement is the hard part. Think I need the hole rear cable loom to make the fuel gauge to work..So this will take some time...The rest works fine. For the ODO you ned a brand new cluster to make it work. But you might still have to have a hacker to put the right ODO milage on it..

[WaveyKat]

yes i have an Early 2001 C320... i dont mind buying a brand new W209 Cluster and MAPS Sensor as long i know they will work! so i guess i will keep waiting to see how yours turns out!

[scalerider83]

hello
the car where i would test this project is 11/2001...
are there any part numbers to see if i have to change the maps sensor or anything else in the fuel system?
does someone has found out something about the bose system in combination with the comand aps?
i found some links but i don't know if they would help acoording to the can/most problem...(they are in german but there are pictures)

http://www.xxlaudio.de/_py-Auto-Hifi...-63-0-0-0.html

http://www.cyberport.de/tv-audio/car...-mercedes.html

http://www.preisroboter.de/ergebnis13107280.html

cheers mario

[Chris The Swede]

11/2001 needs a maps sensor..Cars made after this have the maps sensor.

Digital Bose wont work.

None of those cables work..There is only one that works..No need to search. It is specially made for me and this need.

[sarcazm33326]

any part numbers on the w209 cluster rear bracket?? is everyone really paying 3500 for this unit?

[Chris The Swede]

There is no unit for W209.