My faclifting inc new Comand NTG 2.5

[Chris The Swede]

I just had to do this to my wifes car... She also complained the old style felt a bit old now.. Got this used.. Got this used.. Got this used.. Got the Comand NTG 2.5... The before pic.... You have seen this before on how to remove this so I just let the pics speak for them self.. Test of the new AC unit before continuing. Plug n play! Test of the new Coand unit before continuing. Works great! And Indy showed up... The old plastic braket needs to be swoped for a new one that the new panels fit to so all this has to be removed inc the glove box. Glovebox and center conlose removed and the panel gets off.. Now it is just to put the new panel in and assemble it all back like it was removed. He shows up again.. Indy..All works..

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[Chris The Swede]

All in place...Just to start playing with the new comand...



Soooo happy with this..



Splitscreen GPS in action..



MP3 playback from the hardrive.



As some of you know I dont like the old cluster...So what do I do..



I bought a new one in black that I like more..



But I LOVE the sport version from the W211 so I just had to have that..



So I decided to swap the interfaces on them and move all
W211 faces to the black one..



It was alot to dismantle..



Much more than I thought.



And here we go with cluster number 2...



There you go..Just the assemble left to do then..



Begining to take shape..



Finnished..Just installing it in the car left..



Out with the old...



And in with the new one..



Test..1



Test 2...



All in place....LOVE IT!!

Chris The Swede

[TruTaing]

Steve should hire this man! :P

[M-bENZ]

damn dude thats awsome man...are you a benz tech or soemthing? thats alot of works . I have a quick question thou..how hard is to change out the steering wheel ? you have any pics of that ? is it just plug and play ? im plan to do that soon to my new car (CLK500).

Thanks,

Andy

[WaveyKat]

you had to do any programming for these things to work?
Edit: Do you have a Picture of the Plastic Braket that needs to be replaced?
???

[krisv420]

Dude... is it just plug in and play for everything??? Im going to buy the AC unit and try it out..

[Chris The Swede]

Originally Posted by M-bENZ

damn dude thats awsome man...are you a benz tech or soemthing? thats alot of works . I have a quick question thou..how hard is to change out the steering wheel ? you have any pics of that ? is it just plug and play ? im plan to do that soon to my new car (CLK500).

Thanks,

Andy

No I am not, but I do this often. Took me 5 hours total.. The wheel change is so simple...Done in 20 min..

Here is kind of a guide..Its in Swedish but I think the pics says enough..

http://www.mbsca.com/hur2b.htm

[Chris The Swede]

Originally Posted by WaveyKat

you had to do any programming for these things to work?
Edit: Do you have a Picture of the Plastic Braket that needs to be replaced?
???

Not so far..But info in cluster and wheel buttons is for some strange reason not working so hoping programing is the answer to that..Should have worked without that since it was a Comand before the swap..I'll keep you posted on how it goes..If it dont go I can live without it...The comand is so cool it is worth it.

You want a pic or a part number?

[Chris The Swede]

Originally Posted by krisv420

Dude... is it just plug in and play for everything??? Im going to buy the AC unit and try it out..

Mostly yes..The AC panel is plug n play.Same conector and all. No prob at all..

[krisv420]

Originally Posted by Chris The Swede

Mostly yes..The AC panel is plug n play.Same conector and all. No prob at all..

Sweet.. good looking out i dunno how the bose system would play with the command unit. But im gonna try and get the new ac unit

[WaveyKat]

Pics and part numbers will be great so I will know exactly what parts I need to get the trims to fit perfect in the dash! Thanks man and yo you the man!!! Seriously nice work!

[eddieo45]

This is about the point at which my wife would say she needs to take the car:


Awesome work dude...please stick around and build that post count.

[Chris The Swede]

Originally Posted by WaveyKat

Pics and part numbers will be great so I will know exactly what parts I need to get the trims to fit perfect in the dash! Thanks man and yo you the man!!! Seriously nice work!

Glad to help...

Plastic panel Part number for W203 is A203 689 04 15

Its about $30 new.

[WaveyKat]

Thank You!

and you said the Climate control & Heated seats switches was plug & Play right?
did you Re-USE you same Ashtray & AshtrayTrim ?

Originally Posted by Chris The Swede

Glad to help...

Plastic panel Part number for W203 is A203 689 04 15

Its about $30 new.

[Twenty4Play]

Awesome retrofit! Kinda makes me wish I had the pre facelift just so I can do this!

[Twenty4Play]

Oh yea... is that a DVD that's playing on your COMAND? If so, what COMAND is it? I just bought a Euro COMAND, but I don't think it plays DVD's.

[MW_ATL]

I thought the updated interior was when they went from the D2B fiber ring to the MOST fiber ring, I never even considered this would work. Hmmmmm.....

Cool!

[Chris The Swede]

Originally Posted by WaveyKat

Thank You!

and you said the Climate control & Heated seats switches was plug & Play right?
did you Re-USE you same Ashtray & AshtrayTrim ?

Climate yes..And kind of the upper panel as well..It is just another typer of conector..But the cables are the same and goes to the same spot on the panel..Yes I reused the old lower trims..You only need the trim arounf the clima and upper buttons.

[Chris The Swede]

Originally Posted by Twenty4Play

Oh yea... is that a DVD that's playing on your COMAND? If so, what COMAND is it? I just bought a Euro COMAND, but I don't think it plays DVD's.

Yes it plays movies...Only unit who does fo the W203..It is the new Comand NTG 2.5 with built in harddirve for the maps and MP3s. Has a SD card slot and DVD changer built in. All in one unit..Amp and all...W203 and W209 dont use a MOST agw so that is why this is possible. (Not many who know this). As I said...Only thing not working right now is the can bus for cluster and wheel buttons ..Woriking on a solution..

[acr2001]

I have been waiting forever to see someone attempt an install of the 2.5 COMAND unit. I assume this is the unit for the new C class coupe which is not being sold in America? Would you mind telling me the part number?

Also please let us know if your steering wheel controls work - I have a feeling this might be an issue.

Those with upgraded audio, I very much doubt this newer COMAND unit is going to communicate with your MOST based AMP.

[Mu9enx]

Wow amazing! Did you buy the clusters new? I don't like the old style either! Almost no programming either, huh?

[M-bENZ]

Originally Posted by Chris The Swede

No I am not, but I do this often. Took me 5 hours total.. The wheel change is so simple...Done in 20 min..

Here is kind of a guide..Its in Swedish but I think the pics says enough..

http://www.mbsca.com/hur2b.htm

Chris do me a favor...could you translate whatever it says from the site to English ? sure pics is helps alot but if i know what it says thats even better

Thanks,

Andy

[Chris The Swede]

Originally Posted by acr2001

I have been waiting forever to see someone attempt an install of the 2.5 COMAND unit. I assume this is the unit for the new C class coupe which is not being sold in America? Would you mind telling me the part number?

Also please let us know if your steering wheel controls work - I have a feeling this might be an issue.

Those with upgraded audio, I very much doubt this newer COMAND unit is going to communicate with your MOST based AMP.

That is just what I said..So far that is the only thing not working.

That is the beauty of it...As I said earlier in the post W203/W209 DONT have a MOST AGW in the car. It is incorpirated in the headunits. How the Comand NTG 2.5 works in MOST cars I have no certain source to tell but why wouldnt it since the AGW is built in.

I didnt mention that this facelift upgrade can be done with the Audio 10/20/30 and Comand APS 50 and widescreen units as well if you want to go a little cheaper way...All you have to do with those units is to put a MOST loom so the unit starts up. This is what you dont have to do on the NTG 2.5.

[Chris The Swede]

Originally Posted by M-bENZ

Chris do me a favor...could you translate whatever it says from the site to English ? sure pics is helps alot but if i know what it says thats even better

Thanks,

Andy

Try this one:

http://translate.google.se/translate...hl=sv&ie=UTF-8

[Chris The Swede]

Originally Posted by Mu9enx

Wow amazing! Did you buy the clusters new? I don't like the old style either! Almost no programming either, huh?

Here is the deal with the cluster...

I bought a used one to try it out..You dont lose any features but gain a few.

I bought one from a 2003 CLK with the same engine as mine. 320.

Pluged it in with NO programing and all worked exept the odo/Milage,fuel gauge (going up and down all the time) and digital speedo.(analog works fine.)

1. Odo/Milage= This can be hard to get to work on a used cluster. I will try to assign it to the ignition switch with stardiagnose. This is way easier and works with a new cluster . (So damn expensive though)

2. Fuel gauge= This happens because I have an early W203 made before 11/2001 and it does not have a MAPS tanksensor that they got after this date. I will try to swap this sensor for the new one. But this is not an issue if yours is made after this date.

3. Digital Speedo= Shows wrong speed. This is "a assign to the ignition switch" problem and same here like with the odo problem. I let you know when I have assigend.

So what do I think about this you might think??

A new cluster is so expensive so I think this:

1. Will try to get it to work but dont bother if it shows or not so I can live with it until I find a new cluster cheap.

2. This must work of course. If I cant swap to the MAPS sensor I will give this facelift option up since it is a early car and refit the old cluster.

3. I will try to make it work with the ignition but really dont care if it dont work..I just put the outside temp in that display instead.

So the final line is..If I get the fuel gauge to work I'll keep it. If not the old one goes back.