W203/CL203/S203 TIRE Discussion Thread - Every question on TIRES - Page 4

Flashman · 02-22-2002, 03:41 PM

I'm biased, Dunlops have historically treated me fantastic.

Dunlop 9000.

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Boo2 · 02-22-2002, 03:54 PM

I agree with Das. Go with the Pilots, but check out the S-03's. Those are the only two that I would get.

young · 02-22-2002, 03:55 PM

i'd go w/ tireracks recommendations:
bridgestone SO3
michelin pilot sports (which i have)

i'd also consider the yokohama AVSs

and the toyo proxes t1-s

Mapman · 02-22-2002, 03:55 PM

Another vote for the Dunlop SP9000's, here. I replaced the crappy OEM tires (Bridgestone RE92 Potenzas, blech!) on a previous car with these tires. Wet grip was excellent, dry grip was good, and they were very quiet. They seemed to wear pretty well, too.

02-22-2002, 04:15 PM

I am very happy with the S03's track very well excellent in wet conditions.

My local MD dealers tire distributor even was against the Dunlops saying they follow every groove in the road. I haven't used them so I don't know.

spindrome · 02-22-2002, 04:16 PM

not on your list, but i went with the Kumhho 712's and they are fine. they are as quiet as the stock goodyears.

if road noise is your biggest concern as it was mine, then you might want to consider the Kumho's. I've heard good things about them and have personally seen them on a LOT of cars at Laguna Seca during a track event, so that should tell you something in regards to performance.

No to mention, their about $125 each...

- Eric

02-22-2002, 04:19 PM

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BrabusCClass · 02-22-2002, 05:11 PM

I also have to agree with Spindrome, I think the Kumhos are really good tires. The price is also a great bonus. All my friends are now on Kumhos and Im also going to get a set as soon as my tires run out. I have heard only good stories about the Kumhos and when I went to the track with EvoSport I noticed a lot of the race and street cars all used Kumhos. The EvoSport M3 lightweight which kicked ass also was on Kumhos and won 1st in their class. Congrats to the EvoSport team! I also noticed a Porsche 911 turbo outside was also on Kumhos.

steve s · 02-22-2002, 08:21 PM

pirelli pzero rosso squirms a bit more than u'd like compared to michelin pilot sport or bridgestone s02/s03. heard the dunlop 9000 are quieter than most max-performance tires, while providing best wet handling in exchange for some loss in dry handling among those tires. i've had bad experiences with pirelli pzero assymetricos, blown out (although paid back by city/contractor) on potholes. bridgestone s03 and michelin pilot sport are the newest raves. michelin also came out with these new pilot sport a/s (all-season, interesting tread design and composition); they're still very expensive cause they just came out, u'd be wise to wait a few months for price to come back down. personally, i like the bridgestone s-02

btw, i still think the bridgestone s-02 look better than the s-03 imho. anyone?

benggolf · 02-22-2002, 10:29 PM

My SLK32 came with Pirrelli Rosso and I didn't like them at all. Changed them to SO3 immediately and am very happy with them. Great wet performance and ride.

Have not really tired them on dry pavement as it has been raining a lot in Vancouver, Canada!

Maverick666 · 02-23-2002, 02:16 AM

Well,

1stBenz, I think you need to check out the weather and road condition where you drive your car most... and if it's your only car and used for commute or leisure car for weekend?

But I like the pilot sport that came with my C7's so far... first set of mich... otherwise... i personally prefer bridgestone or pirelli
:o

Maverick666 · 02-23-2002, 02:18 AM

Oh... if you don't have to sell your old wheels... and the weather in your area have snow/rain etc. It will be perfect for your winter/non-performance tires

dasMafia · 02-23-2002, 03:47 AM

a word on the Khumos... I had them on my last car, and while good for the first few months, the ride quality quickly deteriorated with spirited driving... by the end they were very harsh.

the Yoko AVS and Toyo Proxes are BAD in the rain... without any circumfrential groove, they will be hydro-plane city... also, yokohamas are the japanese equivalent to Pirellis... great handling, zero treadlife (from previous experience as well)

1stBenz · 02-23-2002, 05:38 PM

Thx for all the feedback, I'll do some more homework before I buy.

Smoke

shtatc · 02-23-2002, 07:17 PM

There is another tire not mentioned here...Michelin Pilot A/S...it is an allseason based off the pilot tire...supposed to be a very good tire, if you want a high performance all season tire. Just something else to consider.

Scylas · 02-26-2002, 05:36 PM

Have you guys heard anything about Kumho tires? ,are they any good... They are offering me a good deal for 4- Kumho Ecsta Supra 712 205/40R17.

any oppinions?

gab · 02-26-2002, 06:14 PM

its very good for the price.
its about 70% performance of top of the line tires (Pilot, S02, SP9000) and excellent treadwear, only half the price

Steven N · 02-26-2002, 06:25 PM

Scylas,

Let us know how you like them. I was planning on going with the same tire in a year.

renncpe · 02-26-2002, 06:25 PM

I am running a set of them now I blew through a set of P zero's in 5500 miles. The kumho are holding up ok I cannot fault them on performance when price is factored in. I'm going to try nitto 555's next
Randy

TimmyC230boy · 02-26-2002, 06:30 PM

I have had them on 2 previous car and they were great. I will get them when factory tires are gone or when i get new rims.

spindrome · 02-26-2002, 07:29 PM

I just got them on my car 2 weeks ago.

very quiet and performance is good enough for me. like i said on a previous post, i seen a lot of kumho's on the track, so that should say something about em.

at 1/2 the price and twice the treadwear of S03's, Pilots, etc., you cannot go wrong.

I wanted a quiet, high performance, all-season tire (in this order) and Kumho 712's definitely fit the bill...

MARK CUMMINS · 02-26-2002, 07:45 PM

KUMHOS are GREAT!!
I HAVE a set on my wagon 245/40/18 front and 275/35/18 rear with about 15k on them and they still look new!!
they are quiet,stick great hot/dry and wet....
the tires are a very good buy as compared to the OTHERS!!
Just my .02

BrabusCClass · 02-26-2002, 09:07 PM

All my friends have now changed to Kumhos. My next set Im getting Kumhos too. I have heard great things about them and the price is just too good for such a good quality tire. Also, I've seen most cars on the track use them so I know they cant be that bad. I hate my tires and I cant wait to change them to Kumhos.

steve s · 02-26-2002, 10:02 PM

kuhmos are korean brand. i've heard nothing but praise simply because they are the best bang for the buck. may not possess the same prowress as the s-02/s-03 or pilot sports, but u just can't beat the price. for one set of the french/japanese tires, u can get two sets of kuhmos...almost

C230Komp · 03-18-2002, 08:00 PM

My car is supposed to hit the port on 20 March, so I'm biding my time here until it arrives. I love this forum! Pls bear with me...

What brand of tires come on the C7 pkg? Continental? Which ones? Are they V or W rated? I thought they were going to be V's but a friend said they were W's? I'd like to know the treadwear, etc.

Thanks!

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02-22-2002, 03:54 PM	#77
Boo2 Super Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago Posts: 713 Drives: C32 AMG	I agree with Das. Go with the Pilots, but check out the S-03's. Those are the only two that I would get. __________________ -------------- Range Rover

02-22-2002, 03:55 PM	#78
young MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Earth Posts: 3,600 Drives: C-Sportcoupe; 230K	i'd go w/ tireracks recommendations: bridgestone SO3 michelin pilot sports (which i have) i'd also consider the yokohama AVSs and the toyo proxes t1-s __________________ Y O U N G Last edited by young; 02-23-2002 at 02:24 AM.

02-22-2002, 03:55 PM	#79
Mapman Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Mt. Prospect, IL, USA Posts: 141	Another vote for the Dunlop SP9000's, here. I replaced the crappy OEM tires (Bridgestone RE92 Potenzas, blech!) on a previous car with these tires. Wet grip was excellent, dry grip was good, and they were very quiet. They seemed to wear pretty well, too. __________________ Ex-2000 Honda S2000 2003 Acura CL Type-S 6-Speed aka Honda Monte Carlo SS

02-22-2002, 04:16 PM	#81
spindrome Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 114 Drives: 2001 C240	not on your list, but i went with the Kumhho 712's and they are fine. they are as quiet as the stock goodyears. if road noise is your biggest concern as it was mine, then you might want to consider the Kumho's. I've heard good things about them and have personally seen them on a LOT of cars at Laguna Seca during a track event, so that should tell you something in regards to performance. No to mention, their about $125 each... - Eric __________________ spindrome 2001 C240 Black/Charcoal, Auto, C2 H&R suspension 18x8.5 Brabus MB IV Kumho 712s (235/40/18) Schaetz exhaust Scratched up 35% tint Stock Radio with no CD Changer Washed frequently, polished with Zaino Multiple chips on the hood and front bumper

02-22-2002, 04:15 PM	#80
benzomonterey Guest Posts: n/a	I am very happy with the S03's track very well excellent in wet conditions. My local MD dealers tire distributor even was against the Dunlops saying they follow every groove in the road. I haven't used them so I don't know.

02-22-2002, 04:19 PM	#82
benzomonterey Guest Posts: n/a	Try This Epinion tire reviews

02-22-2002, 05:11 PM	#83
BrabusCClass MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,850 Drives: 1999 C43 AMG	I also have to agree with Spindrome, I think the Kumhos are really good tires. The price is also a great bonus. All my friends are now on Kumhos and Im also going to get a set as soon as my tires run out. I have heard only good stories about the Kumhos and when I went to the track with EvoSport I noticed a lot of the race and street cars all used Kumhos. The EvoSport M3 lightweight which kicked ass also was on Kumhos and won 1st in their class. Congrats to the EvoSport team! I also noticed a Porsche 911 turbo outside was also on Kumhos. __________________ Lexus SC300 Porsche Boxster GT3 RS Kleemann C24k (sold)

02-22-2002, 08:21 PM	#84
steve s MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 1,522 Drives: 1996 C36 AMG, 1995 Volvo 850 Turbowagon	pirelli pzero rosso squirms a bit more than u'd like compared to michelin pilot sport or bridgestone s02/s03. heard the dunlop 9000 are quieter than most max-performance tires, while providing best wet handling in exchange for some loss in dry handling among those tires. i've had bad experiences with pirelli pzero assymetricos, blown out (although paid back by city/contractor) on potholes. bridgestone s03 and michelin pilot sport are the newest raves. michelin also came out with these new pilot sport a/s (all-season, interesting tread design and composition); they're still very expensive cause they just came out, u'd be wise to wait a few months for price to come back down. personally, i like the bridgestone s-02 btw, i still think the bridgestone s-02 look better than the s-03 imho. anyone?

02-22-2002, 10:29 PM	#85
benggolf MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Richmond, BC, Canada Posts: 9,627 Drives: 2010 Prius, 09 Honda Fit Sports, 08 C350, 05 C55 AMG, Yamaha 1100 V-Star Custom & Honda 250 Reflex	My vote goes to Bridgestone SO3. My SLK32 came with Pirrelli Rosso and I didn't like them at all. Changed them to SO3 immediately and am very happy with them. Great wet performance and ride. Have not really tired them on dry pavement as it has been raining a lot in Vancouver, Canada! __________________ Benggolf Mercedes Benz Owner's Gun Club, Member #6 International Star Riders Assn. #24520

02-23-2002, 02:16 AM	#86
Maverick666 Almost a Member! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Bay Area Posts: 61 Drives: C230 Kompressor Sports Coupe	Well, 1stBenz, I think you need to check out the weather and road condition where you drive your car most... and if it's your only car and used for commute or leisure car for weekend? But I like the pilot sport that came with my C7's so far... first set of mich... otherwise... i personally prefer bridgestone or pirelli :o __________________ 2002 C230K/Black/Ash/Auto/C1/C2/C7

02-23-2002, 02:18 AM	#87
Maverick666 Almost a Member! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Bay Area Posts: 61 Drives: C230 Kompressor Sports Coupe	one other thing... Oh... if you don't have to sell your old wheels... and the weather in your area have snow/rain etc. It will be perfect for your winter/non-performance tires __________________ 2002 C230K/Black/Ash/Auto/C1/C2/C7

02-23-2002, 03:47 AM	#88
dasMafia Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lincoln, NE Posts: 443 Drives: 2000 BMW Z3 2.3 Roadster (hardtop current ly attached)	a word on the Khumos... I had them on my last car, and while good for the first few months, the ride quality quickly deteriorated with spirited driving... by the end they were very harsh. the Yoko AVS and Toyo Proxes are BAD in the rain... without any circumfrential groove, they will be hydro-plane city... also, yokohamas are the japanese equivalent to Pirellis... great handling, zero treadlife (from previous experience as well) __________________ at the end of the day, I'm just a jackass with a keyboard. Last edited by dasMafia; 02-23-2002 at 03:51 AM.

02-23-2002, 05:38 PM	#89
1stBenz Newbie Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 21	Thx for all the feedback, I'll do some more homework before I buy. Smoke

02-23-2002, 07:17 PM	#90
shtatc Super Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Oro Valley, AZ Posts: 572 Drives: 2001 C240 6spd	There is another tire not mentioned here...Michelin Pilot A/S...it is an allseason based off the pilot tire...supposed to be a very good tire, if you want a high performance all season tire. Just something else to consider. __________________ 2001 C240/White/6Spd/C1-Charcoal/MultifunctionDriversSeat/AMGSplitSpokeWheels/CD-changer/Stongard

02-26-2002, 06:30 PM	#95
TimmyC230boy MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Sitting behind thing freakin desk of mine. Dreaming I was playing my Taylors, and driving my Benz. Long Live The VRAA!!!!!! Posts: 2,925 Drives: C230 Sports Coupe	I have had them on 2 previous car and they were great. I will get them when factory tires are gone or when i get new rims. __________________ 2002 Mercedes-Benz C230 Sports Coupe. SILVER, Bose, Auto, Panorama roof, Cloth, Tinted windows, Clear Corners built 03/2001 http://free.hostdepartment.com/S/Scylas/MB/index.htm Throttle Depressed, Driver Very Happy God made all men. Samuel Colt made all men equal. Gaston Glock made some men more equal than others. Mercedes Benz Owner's Gun Club, Member # 3

02-26-2002, 05:36 PM	#91
Scylas Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Weston, FL Posts: 394 Drives: C230 Kompressor (02 Copupe)	Kumho tires? Have you guys heard anything about Kumho tires? ,are they any good... They are offering me a good deal for 4- Kumho Ecsta Supra 712 205/40R17. any oppinions?

02-26-2002, 06:14 PM	#92
gab Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 450	its very good for the price. its about 70% performance of top of the line tires (Pilot, S02, SP9000) and excellent treadwear, only half the price

02-26-2002, 06:25 PM	#93
Steven N Almost a Member! Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 56	Scylas, Let us know how you like them. I was planning on going with the same tire in a year. __________________ Steve N. ---------------------------------------- Silver C230, C1, C5, C7, CD Ft. Lauderdale, FL

02-26-2002, 06:25 PM	#94
renncpe Super Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Jacksonville Florida Posts: 503 Drives: w203 c230K 2002	I am running a set of them now I blew through a set of P zero's in 5500 miles. The kumho are holding up ok I cannot fault them on performance when price is factored in. I'm going to try nitto 555's next Randy

02-26-2002, 07:29 PM	#96
spindrome Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 114 Drives: 2001 C240	Definitely worth it! I just got them on my car 2 weeks ago. very quiet and performance is good enough for me. like i said on a previous post, i seen a lot of kumho's on the track, so that should say something about em. at 1/2 the price and twice the treadwear of S03's, Pilots, etc., you cannot go wrong. I wanted a quiet, high performance, all-season tire (in this order) and Kumho 712's definitely fit the bill... __________________ spindrome 2001 C240 Black/Charcoal, Auto, C2 H&R suspension 18x8.5 Brabus MB IV Kumho 712s (235/40/18) Schaetz exhaust Scratched up 35% tint Stock Radio with no CD Changer Washed frequently, polished with Zaino Multiple chips on the hood and front bumper

02-26-2002, 07:45 PM	#97
MARK CUMMINS MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Huntington Beach CA Posts: 3,674 Drives: 209/W210 Estate /W211 modded by MBENZNL	KUMHO ECSTA SUPRA KUMHOS are GREAT!! I HAVE a set on my wagon 245/40/18 front and 275/35/18 rear with about 15k on them and they still look new!! they are quiet,stick great hot/dry and wet.... the tires are a very good buy as compared to the OTHERS!! Just my .02

02-26-2002, 09:07 PM	#98
BrabusCClass MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,850 Drives: 1999 C43 AMG	All my friends have now changed to Kumhos. My next set Im getting Kumhos too. I have heard great things about them and the price is just too good for such a good quality tire. Also, I've seen most cars on the track use them so I know they cant be that bad. I hate my tires and I cant wait to change them to Kumhos. __________________ Lexus SC300 Porsche Boxster GT3 RS Kleemann C24k (sold)

02-26-2002, 10:02 PM	#99
steve s MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 1,522 Drives: 1996 C36 AMG, 1995 Volvo 850 Turbowagon	kuhmos are korean brand. i've heard nothing but praise simply because they are the best bang for the buck. may not possess the same prowress as the s-02/s-03 or pilot sports, but u just can't beat the price. for one set of the french/japanese tires, u can get two sets of kuhmos...almost

03-18-2002, 08:00 PM	#100
C230Komp Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: DFW Posts: 155	What brand tires come on C230K with C7 pkg? My car is supposed to hit the port on 20 March, so I'm biding my time here until it arrives. I love this forum! Pls bear with me... What brand of tires come on the C7 pkg? Continental? Which ones? Are they V or W rated? I thought they were going to be V's but a friend said they were W's? I'd like to know the treadwear, etc. Thanks!

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