C 200 K or C 220 cdi ? Poll

[ismeto]

choosing one asking your prefer c 200 kompressor or c 220 cdi ? (these models are not available for Americans and Canadians and NOT need their poll please )

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[berkut_g]

depends on how many km you are making ... if you go over 30 000 km / year i would sugest diesel , otherwise i would go for gas.

the 220 CDI is really noisy. i drove both models and i recomend 200k.

advanced agility it's a must !

[ismeto]

Originally Posted by berkut_g

depends on how many km you are making ... if you go over 30 000 km / year i would sugest diesel , otherwise i would go for gas.

the 220 CDI is really noisy. i drove both models and i recomend 200k.

advanced agility it's a must !

thanks berkut for your immediate answer

I use c 180 k almost 3.5 years and it has 23K

so depends on my driving dynamics it is better to choose gas but I want to try compare two 4-cylienders engines as Gas and Diesel

yes best gas models are c300-350 and diesel c320 cdi like yours

[berkut_g]

on 4cyl the gas tops the diesel . get the gas version , you don't get any reumbling noise on idle, or any vibrations for that matter.

the best 4 cyl diesel engine (from vibration and noise point of view) that i have droven so far is the subaru boxer 2.0 diesel .

the 4cyl diesel engines from merc are quite noise on idle , especially when it is cold outside.

[ismeto]

Originally Posted by berkut_g

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advanced agility it's a must !

what do you mean with that ? you know all w204 comes standart with Agility Control feature and you can add extra Advanced Agility Control that I do not understand its useful

kompressor engine is nice but at high speed disturbing vacum voice in the car

someone says in new w204 mercedes isolated noisy better

and finally mercedes is finishing kompressor engines and switch to Turbo


berkut where are you from ? European ?

[berkut_g]

i'm from romania

well , it depends on where you use your car mainly, if you use it in the city then gas, if otherwise diesel

i know that agility control is standard, but advanced agility is so much better .

these systems explained :

AGILITY CONTROL

AGILITY CONTROL suspension with selective damping system 
The AGILITY CONTROL suspension with selective damping system, specified as standard, raises the bar for 
ride comfort in this segment: 
 Combination of selective and passive damping system  
 Integral valve which reduces the damping force automatically in the event of weaker shocks  
 The system works like normal shock absorbers in the event of stronger shocks  
 In the event of heavier impacts, the level of damping provided by the system increases significantly, 
which, in turn, helps to stabilise the entire vehicle

AGILITY CONTROL - How does it do it

Operation. 
The AGILITY CONTROL suspension combines the advantages of a selective damping system with those of a passive damping system. The conventional comfort-oriented spring/damper system is augmented by a stroke-dependent damping system (standard equipment). 

The function module in this selective damping system consists of an elastomer piston which offers the oil flow a bypass in addition to the conventional damper arrangement in the event of weaker shocks. This reduces the level of damping in the range between +/- 10 mm and significantly reduces road roar and tyre vibration as well as substantially improving the chassis' tyre/road contact characteristics without compromising on active safety. In the event of heavier impacts on the chassis, the selective damping function activates the full damping effect.

ADVANCED AGILITY

Enhanced driving pleasure at the push of a button: ADVANCED AGILITY package with special sports mode (optional extra) While the suspension adjusts to the road in the standard-fit AGILITY CONTROL, the new  ADVANCED AGILITY package with special sports mode (optional extra) can also respond to the driver's mood.  
At the push of a button the driver can vary the vehicle characteristics between a comfortable and sporty set-up. The following parameters can be influenced: 
 Continuously variable damping  
 Speed-sensitive power steering with 
variable centring and more direct steering 
ratio  
 ESP?/ASR (traction)  
 Accelerator response  
 Speed of automatic gear changes

[Turboxer]

My choice was CDI despite I like 200K...but my pocket told me to buy diesel.

Please, don't look at how many miles you drive every year, the point is counting how many miles you estimate to drive in the time you own the car.

15.000 miles X 10 years?
50.000 miles X 3 years?
...

[berkut_g]

true , years that you plan to keep the car also come into account here.

[eminnet]

Even in daily city driving I prefer the 220 CDI because of the 400 Nm torque. If i need to take over in city or outside I feel more confident in CDI.
Fuel consumption is also another point of view.

[Carsy]

Originally Posted by ismeto

choosing one asking your prefer c 200 kompressor or c 220 cdi ?


(these models are not available for Americans and Canadians and NOT need their poll please )

I chose the 220CDI over the C 180 because,

30% better fuel economy.
More power & performance.
Great delivery of power from huge torque advantage.
Very smooth diesel engine , no coarseness at all under heavy accelleration.
Diesel only audible in interior at idle. Very quiet at speed.
Easy to service ie change oil & filters ...oil & filters oil & filters oil & filters.....

[hadjionm]

Originally Posted by ismeto

choosing one asking your prefer c 200 kompressor or c 220 cdi ?


(these models are not available for Americans and Canadians and NOT need their poll please )

I test drove both and preferred the C220 CDi. It had much more acceleration and felt more powerful, more like a petrol 6 or 8 cylinder, while the C200k felt slow in comparison. Also, the fuel consumption is much less with the diesel.
It is noisier at idle, but once you are moving, and the car has warmed up, it is not noticeable. I'd go for the diesel any time.
I also understand that 1/3 of all W204 sold have been with the C220 CDi engine.

[Maxy]

Originally Posted by hadjionm

I test drove both and preferred the C220 CDi. It had much more acceleration and felt more powerful, more like a petrol 6 or 8 cylinder, while the C200k felt slow in comparison. Also, the fuel consumption is much less with the diesel.
It is noisier at idle, but once you are moving, and the car has warmed up, it is not noticeable. I'd go for the diesel any time.
I also understand that 1/3 of all W204 sold have been with the C220 CDi engine.

I agree. I test drove both, had a think and a few weeks test drove both again. the 200k does not seem to be matched at all well with the transmission and when even moderately pushed the transmission races about and well its not good. the 220cdi has much much more torque (that stuff that pushes you back in the seat when you press the accelerator). Unlike one of the other posts i agree it is noisier but it isnt that much noisy. I agree there is more vibration but hells bells its a diesel. All in all much better engine/transmission match. So thumbs up for the 22ci, i get mine hopefully next month.

cheers
Maxy