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Old 04-19-2009, 11:20 AM   #51
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If you do the work yourself you will most definately void your warranty, but if a authorized dealer wold perform the install your warranty will continue as normal with the new Comand system instead.
Vic, you are speaking of the retrofit parts, not the entire car correct?
Because if something goes wrong and they can attribute it to your modifications, then I would agree, that the issue will not be covered by warranty. However, if the issue is not attributed to the retrofit, for instance if your transaxle has an issue, a door hinge breaks while under warranty, I would imagine that MBZ will honor your warranty for any unassociated issues. Additionally, everyone who does mods like adding 3rd party HIDs, Chips, different tires, fog lights, air dams, etc, are at risk of this too. I tend to avoid anything that touches the engine, or the drive train, as that is where it really gets into high cost if you happen to have an issue and they find that you have done something to enhance your driving experience and it can be attributed to your modifications.

The retrofit parts and any issue associated with a retrofit, will probably not be covered by the factory warranty though, even if your dealer does them. I think this is probably the case even if MBZ agrees to change the equipment on your datacard. However, I guess if someone has the funds and wanted to push it, since we are all using Genuine Mercedes parts, there could be something to say in other forums and venues.
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Yes you are correct, it will only void the warranty on the parts retrofitted and the parts involving them.

But over here the warranty will continue as normal if an authorized dealer has performed the install correctly and performed version coding.
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Yes you are correct, it will only void the warranty on the parts retrofitted and the parts involving them.

But over here the warranty will continue as normal if an authorized dealer has performed the install correctly and performed version coding.
Oh, that is very good, it is a little more strict in other markets.
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Old 04-29-2009, 07:31 AM   #54
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Well I got the fan installed, MOST Ring properly configured, and the Code Versioning done and so I am finished a few more tweaks here and there but the system performs pretty well. Probably my next enhancement will be adding VIM (W/Front and back Cameras).
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How long did it take for the dealer to install the blower?
Can you see how it is placed now?, and does it work?
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How long did it take for the dealer to install the blower?
Can you see how it is placed now?, and does it work?
Vic, the blower worked with the power connected prior to installation and the Comand HU would notify me via the Eng Menu, of errors with the External Fan when it was not connected. I am not getting any errors right now, so I think I am Golden, however, I probably will go into the compartment this weekend and see how much air is being inserted into the compartment. I can also turn up the fan flow via the Eng Menu if I require it.

Yes I can definitely see how it is placed and later today I will get you pics. I was apparently looking right at the mounting holes and did not recognize them! Also the ducting is about 2 inches away from where I thought it to be. It is quite tight up in there. The Service Tech took a total of 6 hours to perform all the work I asked for:
Install Axial blower and Ducting
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  • Comand HU software update
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Everything seems fine - I cleared the errors that popped up during the tech's work, in the Comand HU to see if any (espcially the ones I saw before the drop off at the dealer), would return - they did not - Yes I will keep checking

Sofar so good

I would strongly recommend that for anyone that does this, that they go and get the MOST Ring config, the SCN coding done, as it will clear up a lot of errors that are identiied by the Star diagnose after the retrofit - I saw a copy of the report and the MOST reconfig and SCN coding is definitely required or you could be looking at some future problems not only with the Comand HU but the speakers, the display, etc. My local dealer resolved all the errors that showed up. OBTW, Only a few macro level ones (error alerts) are visible in the Eng Menu
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Viv, here are the pics of the Axial blower installed
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Hard to see the blower but it sure looks tight up there
Going to be interesting when my install comes up.
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Hard to see the blower but it sure looks tight up there
Going to be interesting when my install comes up.
sorry Vic, my garage was very hot when I took these pics and so I was rushed and neglected to try to get a pic from another angle. I may be able to put a camera on a rod and set the time to get some additional shots this weekend.

What you are seeing to the right of the lower steering column, is the bottom opening of part A2048321045 on the left of some of the tubing for part A2048320645, and the connector for the power harness to the Axial blower's electrical harness. The blower is a few inches behind that going away from you in the picture.

Yes it is definitely tight in there! and it is so small in the footwell.
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Hard to see the blower but it sure looks tight up there
Going to be interesting when my install comes up.
How much longer before your car arrives?
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It was supposed to arrive this week, but I suspect I have to wait at least another two weeks
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Vic, sorry to hear that, i hope it does arrive sooner than that.
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Old 05-07-2009, 06:38 AM   #63
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you did a great work man!!!

congratulations!!

would you please post some pics of the MM mounted?? thanks!!!
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you did a great work man!!!

congratulations!!

would you please post some pics of the MM mounted?? thanks!!!
I thought I had some before and after but I inadvertently pasted some other files over that folder. It looks like any factory install of the Comand with APS in the Instrument Panel
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Well, i did verify that I can play Video, even though i heard that some of the early 2008's could not play video from a regular DVD - dunno if that is actually right. But here are a few pics.
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Oh, that is very good, it is a little more strict in other markets.
I don't know where on the planet you are located, but being a long time good customer, a lot of updates etc. have been done to my past and present cars with never a bill seen.

It takes a while to build up a relationship (not one car) but eventually it pays off.

Showing some knowledge about the car and avoiding being a demanding SOB is also always appreciated. It's a two-way street and an owner has to overlook a few things from time to time.
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I don't know where on the planet you are located, but being a long time good customer, a lot of updates etc. have been done to my past and present cars with never a bill seen.

It takes a while to build up a relationship (not one car) but eventually it pays off.

Showing some knowledge about the car and avoiding being a demanding SOB is also always appreciated. It's a two-way street and an owner has to overlook a few things from time to time.

RLE Uh, I really do not know where you are coming from with the attitide in your post here?

I did not reveal how many cars I bought from my local dealer, nor did I say I "demanded" they did anything, nor did I criticize the dealer. My local Dealer and a few others in the area get along with me quite well. I don't bug'em, and they answer my questions without any problems.

I would really like to know?
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if i just want the 7 inch screen with the dvd play back capability do i still need all those parts that you have listed

i have it checked out its like 3600 cad
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if i just want the 7 inch screen with the dvd play back capability do i still need all those parts that you have listed

i have it checked out its like 3600 cad

You need pretty much everything exept for the GPS antenna, but there is no reason why you shouldnt fit that as well when paying so much for the HU and screen.
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I am trying to do a retrofit on my 09 4matic right now. When i sent the parts over to the dealer this is the response / prices I got....

Below are the prices your requested. The one part for the antenna clutch cable does not show to be for a us version car. Also the Operating unit does not show to be for a US version either. I looked up a 09 C and got the command number but it list nothing for what they are calling a clutch. Thank you and let me know if I can be of any more assistance.

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A2048702851 50.00 Central air nozzle screen switch
A20483041549116 77.00 (black) Central air nozzle
A0225457426 Clutch for antenna cable
A2118200088 38.50 Antenna adapter cable
A0018207675 167.00 GPS Antenna
A1234750120 2.20 Pad for GPS antenna x3
A2045405706 46.00 Screen wiring harness
A2045409706 42.00 APS wiring harness
A2119840429 1.70 EACH Bolt for fan x2
A2048321245 11.50 Air duct
A2048320645 27.50 Air duct
A2048320545 8.50 Air duct
A2048321045 22.50 Air duct
A2048300508 57.00 Axial fan
A20482046979F45 1080.00 (black) 7" monitor
A2048703596 Changes to part number 204-906-02-01 6,690.00 Operating unit with DVD changer (ECE)
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i am going to do the comand retrofit to my car in few days...
wish me good luck
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i am going to do the comand retrofit to my car in few days...
wish me good luck

Good luck, if you are handy you cant fail, I have seen three retrofits follow my writeup and they have all worked
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Good luck, if you are handy you cant fail, I have seen three retrofits follow my writeup and they have all worked
Where is the writeup?
Are they doing the star diagnostic after the retrofit?
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Retrofitting COMAND (MM) writeup.
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Yes, good luck to you guys. I went through it about the same time Vic did his and I was so into it , i forgot to document what I did, so Vic's procedure is definitely the best. Vic's write-up lists all the parts you need an can order. There is also a parts thread by Vic, that shows all the parts. Again good luck.

BTW, Hello Vic!
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