>>>LET High-Stall Torque Converter (HSTC)<<< - Page 3

whipplem104 · 02-01-2009, 12:50 PM

Is there any reason to buy this from LET instead of one from IPT for 700.00?
Is there something special about what is being done?

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boohooramblers · 02-01-2009, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whipplem104

Is there any reason to buy this from LET instead of one from IPT for 700.00?
Is there something special about what is being done?

If you're talking about this TC, I found the same thing!
I contacted them last Friday to see what the story is regarding theirs (haven't heard back yet).

I guess the answer to your question is whether LET's TC is different.
If it is their own (LET's) product, they can charge what they like for it.

whipplem104 · 02-01-2009, 02:20 PM

Yes that is the company. I have talked to IPT several times about their products. They seem to be really on top of what they are doing. When I rebuild my transmission I am going to buy their banner kit.

c32AMG-DTM · 02-01-2009, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whipplem104

Is there any reason to buy this from LET instead of one from IPT for 700.00?
Is there something special about what is being done?

You may want to pose this question on the thread with the same title but in the w211 AMG forum - ChicagoX (Wayne, and owner of LET) can probably give you the answer(s) you seek.

LETMotorsports · 02-01-2009, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whipplem104

Is there any reason to buy this from LET instead of one from IPT for 700.00?
Is there something special about what is being done?

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackbenzz

Yes, at least three of us on this forum have that converter. Their customer service is HORRIBLE though.

The LET converter is unsurpassed in drivability - important to most MB drivers. We also understand that our customers are our most important asset.

It's a true testament to how far the MB mod market has come is such a short time that we're even discussing price differences of a couple hundred bucks....instead of THOUSANDS !!!

It's a good time to drive a Benz.

splinter · 02-01-2009, 04:55 PM

I’m sure every vendor has their share of disgruntled customers,
but this gent was none too pleased with the work IPT did…

http://www.lxforums.com/board/showthread.php?t=116307

LETMotorsports · 02-01-2009, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whipplem104

Is there any reason to buy this from LET instead of one from IPT for 700.00?
Is there something special about what is being done?

The LX converters and the Benz converters are not identical, although the transmissions are very similar.

Our converters are special....VERY special. The difference is in the drivability.

LETMotorsports · 02-01-2009, 06:42 PM

Thanks for the immense interest in our HSTC. If anyone need any additional info, please let us know.

Yes! I'm interested in the HSTC !!!
(55K cars only - 63's PM me)

1) loungin14 --- C32
2) 01bolt --- E55
3) importlabSRT --- SRT-6
4) MikeR --- C32
5) ProjectMayhem --- C32
6) AMGSC --- s/c C55
7) LAZ --- C32
8) Exotic-metal55 --- CL55
9) MJ50 ---E55
10) Jspeed --- CLS55 (2)
11) Amen --- E55
12) bassn_07 --- E55
13) chawkins2001 --- E55
14) Alexandar1099 --- E55

OJwerks · 02-01-2009, 07:24 PM

doubt it but... but do you have any for the n/a m112 ?

aleksandar1099 · 02-01-2009, 09:00 PM

here is my impression...(from the w211 forum)

Quote:

Originally Posted by aleksandar1099

So I took up wayne's (chicagox) offer on taking his car for a ride. I have to say that I am completely amazed!

Firstly, drivability is very good. I know that with my modded car, I get some jerkyness off of the line, after driving wayne's car it is completely gone! It is nearly impossible to tell that it is installed in the car under normal driving, but once you get on the gas it is just incredible fast!

Secondly, the stall is set perfectly for the car. The power comes in smoothly but definetlly noticable! The car hauls like crazy at speed. We spun tires all the way through 70mph!!!! I have driven stage 5 renntech cars and they do not even compare to the power wayne's car can put down.

The car drives like stock with the new converter.

I will be getting one for sure!

Thanks again to Wayne for the ride and the future new torque converter!

hooleyboy · 02-02-2009, 12:08 AM

I dont know much about HSTC, but The C55 at 2000rpms will start to try and spin the tires. Everyone with a C55 knows that it can not do a brake stand (only in dyno mode) ESP just gets in the way even when its off.

My guess is By raising the stall speed to 3500rpms in the C55 will cause ESP to kick in if you cant get traction. IF the front wheels are not moving in the C55 the back one will stop moving too. Causing the transmission to go nuts and put you into a gear it thinks you can get traction in. It will result in a slower ET's.

This is the main problem I have when drag racing. I cant hook up no matter if I'm pre-loading the car at the line or not. Slicks of some sort and an LSD might be a must with this mod. Otherwise trying to launch in a C55 at 3500 or so RPM's cause ESP to kick in 99% of the time, Hell it even kicks in at the stock stall speed

Someone correct me If I'm wrong on this.

wawy · 02-02-2009, 12:57 AM

[quote=hooleyboy;3320746]I dont know much about HSTC, but The C55 at 2000rpms will start to try and spin the tires. Everyone with a C55 knows that it can not do a brake stand (only in dyno mode) ESP just gets in the way even when its off.

My guess is By raising the stall speed to 3500rpms in the C55 will cause ESP to kick in if you cant get traction. IF the front wheels are not moving in the C55 the back one will stop moving too. Causing the transmission to go nuts and put you into a gear it thinks you can get traction in. It will result in a slower ET's.

This is the main problem I have when drag racing. I cant hook up no matter if I'm pre-loading the car at the line or not. Slicks of some sort and an LSD might be a must with this mod. Otherwise trying to launch in a C55 at 3500 or so RPM's cause ESP to kick in 99% of the time, Hell it even kicks in at the stock stall speed

Someone correct me If I'm wrong on this.[/QUOTE

This is what I've been wondering also.

hooleyboy · 02-02-2009, 01:03 AM

The ESP in the C55 totally sucks. 350whp and I cant do a burn out

I wish there was a way to bypass the sensor that tells the car the front tires are not moving

wawy · 02-02-2009, 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hooleyboy

The ESP in the C55 totally sucks. 350whp and I cant do a burn out

I wish there was a way to bypass the sensor that tells the car the front tires are not moving

Would be there be any benefit running in dyno mode when at the strip?

ChicagoX · 02-02-2009, 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hooleyboy

This is the main problem I have when drag racing. I cant hook up no matter if I'm pre-loading the car at the line or not. Slicks of some sort and an LSD might be a must with this mod...

LSD isn't necessary, but it compliments it nicely.

If you are spinning, then you need traction, period. The HSTC will put more power to the ground, just like adding a bunch of horsepower would.

If you can't hook up with the power levels you have, sticky tires are in order.

The issue with the burnout is traction-control related, and dyno mode is the only way to defeat it presently.

BTW, a 3500 stall would darn near stand your car on end - at the expense of top-end efficiency. The LET HSTC is more like 2600-2800 RPM, depending on power output.

I can say that the cars that have this mod have not experienced any of the strange issues you described....

hooleyboy · 02-02-2009, 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChicagoX

LSD isn't necessary, but it compliments it nicely.

If you are spinning, then you need traction, period. The HSTC will put more power to the ground, just like adding a bunch of horsepower would.

If you can't hook up with the power levels you have, sticky tires are in order.

The issue with the burnout is traction-control related, and dyno mode is the only way to defeat it presently.

BTW, a 3500 stall would darn near stand your car on end - at the expense of top-end efficiency. The LET HSTC is more like 2600-2800 RPM, depending on power output.

I can say that the cars that have this mod have not experienced any of the strange issues you described....

Very true, I have traction issues. Yeah for some reason I thought the HSTC was a 3500 SS. My bad. With a LSD will both tires spin when doing a brake stand In dyno mode? All I know is the HSTQ is on my short list of mods to do.

ChicagoX · 02-02-2009, 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hooleyboy

...With a LSD will both tires spin when doing a brake stand In dyno mode?...

Yes.

ProjectMayhem · 02-02-2009, 04:55 AM

1. How soon until these will be ready to ship?
2. Will you ship an unit out and refund the core charge once you recieve the core? (I would like to have just 1 day down time)

ohlord · 02-02-2009, 06:17 AM

modified valve body and if you go to high stall TC the trans is not going to like it for very long.

N.M.M. · 02-02-2009, 12:13 PM

1) loungin14
2) 01bolt
3) importlabsrt
4)ProjectMayhem
5)N.M.M.
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c32used · 02-02-2009, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hooleyboy

With a LSD will both tires spin when doing a brake stand In dyno mode?

Yes both tires will spin with an LSD no matter what mode you are really in. I may be interested in this Stall Convertor later not at the moment LET. But I have to say it sounds very promising! I will see how Jake does with this mod at US41 in a few months

Currently I am trying to get used to spinning in 1-3rd with SL55 full intake

Jerry I'll call you in March to setup the Dyno Tune at whatever location you feel its best

wawy · 02-02-2009, 02:04 PM

In case you guys have missed it there is a CLK55 that just ran 12.34@113.16 1.800 60' at atco. The CLK is N/A with a 2800 stall converter southern hotrod transmission.
12.34@113.16 new N/A record?

RedBull · 02-02-2009, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by c32used

Currently I am trying to get used to spinning in 1-3rd with SL55 full intake

I know the feeling Victor. I tried testing out my 185 from a low roll on a lonely stretch of road in Mexico today. My traction light was still blinking at 60 when I let off, but it was pulling like a raped ape the entire time. Fun stuff.

ChicagoX · 02-03-2009, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ohlord

modified valve body and if you go to high stall TC the trans is not going to like it for very long.

Not with this modified factory unit.

Hey ohlord - did you ever get around to posting up those pics/slips of your 10-second e-class?

Guran · 02-07-2009, 02:18 PM

Yes! I'm interested in the HSTC !!![/u]
(55K cars only - 63's PM me)

1) loungin14 --- C32
2) 01bolt --- E55
3) importlabSRT --- SRT-6
4) MikeR --- C32
5) ProjectMayhem --- C32
6) AMGSC --- s/c C55
7) LAZ --- SLK32 Sweden
8) Exotic-metal55 --- CL55
9) MJ50 ---E55
10) Jspeed --- CLS55 (2)
11) Amen --- E55
12) bassn_07 --- E55
13) chawkins2001 --- E55
14) Alexandar1099 --- E55[/quote]
15) Guran---SLK32 Sweden

02-01-2009, 06:42 PM	#58
LETMotorsports SPONSOR Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 206 Drives: LET 135i - New Toy	Thanks for the immense interest in our HSTC. If anyone need any additional info, please let us know. Yes! I'm interested in the HSTC !!! (55K cars only - 63's PM me) 1) loungin14 --- C32 2) 01bolt --- E55 3) importlabSRT --- SRT-6 4) MikeR --- C32 5) ProjectMayhem --- C32 6) AMGSC --- s/c C55 7) LAZ --- C32 8) Exotic-metal55 --- CL55 9) MJ50 ---E55 10) Jspeed --- CLS55 (2) 11) Amen --- E55 12) bassn_07 --- E55 13) chawkins2001 --- E55 14) Alexandar1099 --- E55 __________________ _____________________________________________ -Tony

02-01-2009, 07:24 PM	#59
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02-02-2009, 12:08 AM	#61
hooleyboy MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Glendale Arizona Posts: 2,748 Drives: my girlfrind crazy and the occasional Mercedes	I dont know much about HSTC, but The C55 at 2000rpms will start to try and spin the tires. Everyone with a C55 knows that it can not do a brake stand (only in dyno mode) ESP just gets in the way even when its off. My guess is By raising the stall speed to 3500rpms in the C55 will cause ESP to kick in if you cant get traction. IF the front wheels are not moving in the C55 the back one will stop moving too. Causing the transmission to go nuts and put you into a gear it thinks you can get traction in. It will result in a slower ET's. This is the main problem I have when drag racing. I cant hook up no matter if I'm pre-loading the car at the line or not. Slicks of some sort and an LSD might be a must with this mod. Otherwise trying to launch in a C55 at 3500 or so RPM's cause ESP to kick in 99% of the time, Hell it even kicks in at the stock stall speed Someone correct me If I'm wrong on this. __________________ MODS AMG Lysholm supercharger MBH Long Tube Headers MBH 3" dual exhaust and... many other strange mods I am a proud sponsor of MBworld under MBH motorsports Forget the "Hammer" I've got a pneumatic nail gun.

02-02-2009, 12:57 AM	#62
wawy Super Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Western Canada Posts: 933 Drives: 2006 C55 AMG	[quote=hooleyboy;3320746]I dont know much about HSTC, but The C55 at 2000rpms will start to try and spin the tires. Everyone with a C55 knows that it can not do a brake stand (only in dyno mode) ESP just gets in the way even when its off. My guess is By raising the stall speed to 3500rpms in the C55 will cause ESP to kick in if you cant get traction. IF the front wheels are not moving in the C55 the back one will stop moving too. Causing the transmission to go nuts and put you into a gear it thinks you can get traction in. It will result in a slower ET's. This is the main problem I have when drag racing. I cant hook up no matter if I'm pre-loading the car at the line or not. Slicks of some sort and an LSD might be a must with this mod. Otherwise trying to launch in a C55 at 3500 or so RPM's cause ESP to kick in 99% of the time, Hell it even kicks in at the stock stall speed Someone correct me If I'm wrong on this.[/QUOTE This is what I've been wondering also. __________________ 2006 Diamond Black C55 AMG RENNtech Monolites 19x8.5/9.5 with Toyo Proxies T1R RENNtech Carbon Fiber Airbox Resonator delete Previous: 2002 C32 AMG Mods: Blacked out side markers, Vogtland springs, H&R Rear swaybar, Resonator delete, ASP pulleys (sold) 2003 C320 (sold) 2002 C230 (sold) 1998 BMW323is (sold)

02-02-2009, 01:03 AM	#63
hooleyboy MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Glendale Arizona Posts: 2,748 Drives: my girlfrind crazy and the occasional Mercedes	The ESP in the C55 totally sucks. 350whp and I cant do a burn out I wish there was a way to bypass the sensor that tells the car the front tires are not moving __________________ MODS AMG Lysholm supercharger MBH Long Tube Headers MBH 3" dual exhaust and... many other strange mods I am a proud sponsor of MBworld under MBH motorsports Forget the "Hammer" I've got a pneumatic nail gun.

02-01-2009, 02:20 PM	#53
whipplem104 Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: seattle Posts: 185 Drives: 1990 300ce supercharged and intercooled	Yes that is the company. I have talked to IPT several times about their products. They seem to be really on top of what they are doing. When I rebuild my transmission I am going to buy their banner kit.

02-01-2009, 04:55 PM	#56
splinter MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Hermosa Beach, CA Posts: 1,927 Drives: GMC	I’m sure every vendor has their share of disgruntled customers, but this gent was none too pleased with the work IPT did… http://www.lxforums.com/board/showthread.php?t=116307

02-02-2009, 04:55 AM	#68
ProjectMayhem Newbie Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 4 Drives: Crossfire srt6	1. How soon until these will be ready to ship? 2. Will you ship an unit out and refund the core charge once you recieve the core? (I would like to have just 1 day down time) __________________ 2005 Graphite SRT6 13.1 @107 (stock) 12.2 @113 "178 pulley, custom dual 3 inch intake" stock tune!

02-02-2009, 06:17 AM	#69
ohlord MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,438 Drives: E55 powered E320 Wagon,1971MGB Track/Rally, MG Midget Autocross,94subaru, 2000 E320 wagon.	You need the modified valve body and if you go to high stall TC the trans is not going to like it for very long. __________________ "whatever you say, you speak into existence" ohlord Cognomen is in homage to the late great Janis Joplin "Oh lord won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz" W210 Wagons,a few MG's,assorted others and a partridge in a pear tree. pm me if you need me

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02-02-2009, 02:04 PM	#72
wawy Super Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Western Canada Posts: 933 Drives: 2006 C55 AMG	In case you guys have missed it there is a CLK55 that just ran 12.34@113.16 1.800 60' at atco. The CLK is N/A with a 2800 stall converter southern hotrod transmission. 12.34@113.16 new N/A record? __________________ 2006 Diamond Black C55 AMG RENNtech Monolites 19x8.5/9.5 with Toyo Proxies T1R RENNtech Carbon Fiber Airbox Resonator delete Previous: 2002 C32 AMG Mods: Blacked out side markers, Vogtland springs, H&R Rear swaybar, Resonator delete, ASP pulleys (sold) 2003 C320 (sold) 2002 C230 (sold) 1998 BMW323is (sold)

02-07-2009, 02:18 PM	#75
Guran Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 44 Drives: SLK32 AMG	HSTC Yes! I'm interested in the HSTC !!![/u] (55K cars only - 63's PM me) 1) loungin14 --- C32 2) 01bolt --- E55 3) importlabSRT --- SRT-6 4) MikeR --- C32 5) ProjectMayhem --- C32 6) AMGSC --- s/c C55 7) LAZ --- SLK32 Sweden 8) Exotic-metal55 --- CL55 9) MJ50 ---E55 10) Jspeed --- CLS55 (2) 11) Amen --- E55 12) bassn_07 --- E55 13) chawkins2001 --- E55 14) Alexandar1099 --- E55[/quote] 15) Guran---SLK32 Sweden

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