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AMGSC · 02-10-2009, 01:17 AM

So why did I just pay a thousand dollars for a torque converter that only costs $100-300 band new on Ebay?

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boohooramblers · 02-10-2009, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by AMGSC

So why did I just pay a thousand dollars for a torque converter that only costs $100-300 band new on Ebay?

What are you talking about?

Kindly provide a link to the source of this $100-300 brand new 722.6 torque converter (TC). I will purchase them all and make a killing selling them to ProTorque.

I find it hard to believe that one can purchase the 722.6 TC for $100-300.
Of course, I could be dead wrong.
[On a side note, go to RBrenton's parts list and see what the cost price of a 722.6 TC is.]

In addition, if you payed $1,000 for the LET TC, then you paid for a modified TC. How can you compare the cost of a modified and stock torque converter?

splinter · 02-10-2009, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by AMGSC

So why did I just pay a thousand dollars for a torque converter that only costs $100-300 band new on Ebay?

With the ungodly amount of sheer power you’re projecting to be producing, a "band new" $300 POS torque converter won’t last a week before it takes out the transmission, too.

AMGSC · 02-10-2009, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by boohooramblers

What are you talking about?

Kindly provide a link to the source of this $100-300 brand new 722.6 torque converter (TC). I will purchase them all and make a killing selling them to ProTorque.

I find it hard to believe that one can purchase the 722.6 TC for $100-300.
Of course, I could be dead wrong.
[On a side note, go to RBrenton's parts list and see what the cost price of a 722.6 TC is.]

In addition, if you payed $1,000 for the LET TC, then you paid for a modified TC. How can you compare the cost of a modified and stock torque converter?

Well, I came close with a 722.4 TC for $149. see link http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MERCE...Q5fAccessories

boohooramblers · 02-10-2009, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by AMGSC

Well, I came close with a 722.4 TC for $149. see link http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MERCE...Q5fAccessories

Come on man!

1. It's re-manufactured!

2. It's a 722.4 TC.
The 722.6 TC is a completely different beast. The 722.4 TC went into W202 C180's and the like (no offense to you guys).

I understand that you may have made an honest mistake, but I think you owe it to the LET guys to edit your post.

AMGSC · 02-10-2009, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by boohooramblers

Come on man!

1. It's re-manufactured!

2. It's a 722.4 TC.
The 722.6 TC is a completely different beast. The 722.4 TC went into W202 C180's and the like (no offense to you guys).

I understand that you may have made an honest mistake, but I think you owe it to the LET guys to edit your post.

Thanks for the clarification. I feel much better now. So how is the IPT unit selling for $700 inferior to LETs?

I already paid for LET's unit but just want to make sure I wasn't paying a 43%mark-up for cross-docking services.

430 · 02-11-2009, 10:22 PM

I am very interested in this mod and can't wait to see how it turns out. LET does a fantastic job and they stand behind their products.

I am not ready to purchase yet but am looking forward to seeing the results.

Traction is already a major issue so I am most interested in seeing how this performs at higher speeds where traction is not an issue.

viper501 · 02-11-2009, 11:55 PM

I can see a LSD, HSTC, and TCU tune being the key to getting all of the power to actually get to the ground.

430 · 02-15-2009, 10:11 PM

I already have an LSD. It helps but really makes a bigger difference at higher speeds. In ~40 degree or colder weather I had gotten the car sidewise at 55+mph at full throttle. Not as much fun as it sounds. The LSD alleviates that problem. From a standing start there is still much more torque than traction.

Guran · 02-16-2009, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by 430

I already have an LSD. It helps but really makes a bigger difference at higher speeds. In ~40 degree or colder weather I had gotten the car sidewise at 55+mph at full throttle. Not as much fun as it sounds. The LSD alleviates that problem. From a standing start there is still much more torque than traction.

Have you tried Hoosier DR.
I launch my SLK32 at 1750 - 1800 rpm, Cold Summer Nights, Street Race, 45 F - 7 Celsius, with Hoosier DR, 275/40/17, 21,75 psi and LSD.
You can race with 4wd cars
I am going to try this new HSTC

/Guran

430 · 02-24-2009, 09:47 PM

No, I have not tried Drag Radials of any kind. The closest I have run as Kumho Victo Racer V700's. I still had traction issues but part of that may have been operator error (not warming them up enough).

I am looking forward to hearing positive results on the HSTC. I am a big fan of LET and looking forward to more successful products out of them.

alumar · 02-25-2009, 02:29 PM

hrm... this could be an interesting upgrade (ponders his need for it

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Dingleberry · 08-19-2009, 05:36 PM

anymore reviews on this torque converter?

MikeR · 08-19-2009, 06:40 PM

Good revival... I just hit 11.96secs with my SRT6 and this would theoretically get me close to 11.5!!!

moparrbust · 08-19-2009, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeR

Good revival... I just hit 11.96secs with my SRT6 and this would theoretically get me close to 11.5!!!

Congrats..............imagine how fast it would be if it was a real M-B AMG .

The theories on the gains from the higher stall converters are awesome, but not one person(that I've seen to date) has posted up any before/after gains at the track what so ever.

c32AMG-DTM · 08-19-2009, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeR

Good revival... I just hit 11.96secs with my SRT6 and this would theoretically get me close to 11.5!!!

Except, unless I've missed it, no C32/SLK32/SRT-6 (or E55 for that matter) has publicly shared documenting the aforementioned reduction in E/T (.25 - .50) that the HSTC is theoretically capable of providing. Not saying it hasn't happened... but if it has, the owners are keeping it to themselves.

EDIT: moparrbust beat me to it...

MikeR · 08-19-2009, 10:26 PM

I did say 'theoretically' didnt I?? Come on, let a guy fantasize a little......

11.5...... I could get kicked out!

moparrbust · 08-19-2009, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeR

I did say 'theoretically' didnt I?? Come on, let a guy fantasize a little......

11.5...... I could get kicked out!

I had the same sad hopes when I had my TC custom built(before the LET one) by my buddies shop with no gains. The only good news is that I didn't blow anywhere near $1,000 for a placebo. I do however love the fact that you scored an 11.9 with a 113 mph trap................that gives me hope since I have been trapping 112/113 in the summer time!!!

MikeR · 08-19-2009, 10:56 PM

I'm going to port and polish the TB and line pipe entrance and then the plenum and intake maifolds and see if I can gain a little more. Maybe insulate the SC while I have it apart. That will be a fall job though. I still have 6 or 8 weeks to make time on the track!!

jturkel · 08-19-2009, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeR

I'm going to port and polish the TB and line pipe entrance and then the plenum and intake maifolds and see if I can gain a little more. Maybe insulate the SC while I have it apart. That will be a fall job though. I still have 6 or 8 weeks to make time on the track!!

you will likely drop in power if you p/p the plenum and intake manifolds unless you have more plans in mind after that.

also, do you mean to say you will insulate the i/c? i'm pretty sure you shouldnt insulate the s/c

MikeR · 08-19-2009, 11:32 PM

Yes, I did mean the IC not the SC. One of those thingies in the middle......

ChicagoX · 08-20-2009, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by c32AMG-DTM

Except, unless I've missed it, no C32/SLK32/SRT-6 (or E55 for that matter) has publicly shared documenting the aforementioned reduction in E/T (.25 - .50) that the HSTC is theoretically capable of providing. Not saying it hasn't happened... but if it has, the owners are keeping it to themselves.

EDIT: moparrbust beat me to it...

Our Turbo car gained more than .50 sec along with the removal of the low-RPM clunking issues these cars are plagued with.

The Fall racing season and its cooler weather should get a few more customers to bolt on the slicks for timed runs.

The improvement in drivability is worth the cost of the part alone....but it makes the car feel 500lbs lighter too!

Any Qs, feel free to ask. Every customer to date has been thrilled.

loungn14 · 08-20-2009, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ChicagoX

The improvement in drivability is worth the cost of the part alone....but it makes the car feel 500lbs lighter too!

Any Qs, feel free to ask. Every customer to date has been thrilled.

completely agree

Dingleberry · 08-21-2009, 01:15 PM

I was hoping to get a customer review, not a raving seller review...

loungn14 · 08-21-2009, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dingleberry

I was hoping to get a customer review, not a raving seller review...

I love mine, very good under low rpm

02-11-2009, 11:55 PM	#83
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02-25-2009, 02:29 PM	#87
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08-19-2009, 06:40 PM	#89
MikeR Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: North Plains, OR Posts: 44 Drives: Crossfire SRT6	Good revival... I just hit 11.96secs with my SRT6 and this would theoretically get me close to 11.5!!! __________________ Crossfire SRT6 SSB - stock Crossfire SRT6 Aero Blue 1/4 mile: 11.96sec @ 113.9mph LET181mm pulley, NW Dual CAI, LET tune, LET HE, 240 Mod'd intake manifolds, separated IC, resonator removed.

08-19-2009, 10:26 PM	#92
MikeR Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: North Plains, OR Posts: 44 Drives: Crossfire SRT6	I did say 'theoretically' didnt I?? Come on, let a guy fantasize a little...... 11.5...... I could get kicked out! __________________ Crossfire SRT6 SSB - stock Crossfire SRT6 Aero Blue 1/4 mile: 11.96sec @ 113.9mph LET181mm pulley, NW Dual CAI, LET tune, LET HE, 240 Mod'd intake manifolds, separated IC, resonator removed.

08-19-2009, 10:56 PM	#94
MikeR Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: North Plains, OR Posts: 44 Drives: Crossfire SRT6	I'm going to port and polish the TB and line pipe entrance and then the plenum and intake maifolds and see if I can gain a little more. Maybe insulate the SC while I have it apart. That will be a fall job though. I still have 6 or 8 weeks to make time on the track!! __________________ Crossfire SRT6 SSB - stock Crossfire SRT6 Aero Blue 1/4 mile: 11.96sec @ 113.9mph LET181mm pulley, NW Dual CAI, LET tune, LET HE, 240 Mod'd intake manifolds, separated IC, resonator removed.

02-11-2009, 10:22 PM	#82
430 Super Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 743 Drives: SLK32	I am very interested in this mod and can't wait to see how it turns out. LET does a fantastic job and they stand behind their products. I am not ready to purchase yet but am looking forward to seeing the results. Traction is already a major issue so I am most interested in seeing how this performs at higher speeds where traction is not an issue.

02-15-2009, 10:11 PM	#84
430 Super Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 743 Drives: SLK32	I already have an LSD. It helps but really makes a bigger difference at higher speeds. In ~40 degree or colder weather I had gotten the car sidewise at 55+mph at full throttle. Not as much fun as it sounds. The LSD alleviates that problem. From a standing start there is still much more torque than traction.

02-24-2009, 09:47 PM	#86
430 Super Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 743 Drives: SLK32	No, I have not tried Drag Radials of any kind. The closest I have run as Kumho Victo Racer V700's. I still had traction issues but part of that may have been operator error (not warming them up enough). I am looking forward to hearing positive results on the HSTC. I am a big fan of LET and looking forward to more successful products out of them.

08-19-2009, 05:36 PM	#88
Dingleberry Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: MD Posts: 166 Drives: '02 C32	anymore reviews on this torque converter?

08-19-2009, 11:32 PM	#96
MikeR Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: North Plains, OR Posts: 44 Drives: Crossfire SRT6	Yes, I did mean the IC not the SC. One of those thingies in the middle...... __________________ Crossfire SRT6 SSB - stock Crossfire SRT6 Aero Blue 1/4 mile: 11.96sec @ 113.9mph LET181mm pulley, NW Dual CAI, LET tune, LET HE, 240 Mod'd intake manifolds, separated IC, resonator removed.

08-21-2009, 01:15 PM	#99
Dingleberry Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: MD Posts: 166 Drives: '02 C32	I was hoping to get a customer review, not a raving seller review...

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