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*DIY: Cheap (but not easy) Secondary Air Injection Pump Fix*
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Part I: Removal of the AMG pump from the engine bay
Part I: Removal of the AMG pump from the engine bay.
Refer to the corresponding labeled figures / photos with red arrows / circles / boxes: 1. Remove the engine cover and remove the passenger side air intake duct to the baffle to make things easier to access. Also unplug the air pump electrical connector by pressing in on the tabs of the connector and pulling away from the pump (towards the passenger side of the engine bay). 2. Remove the 10 mm nuts holding the pump + bracket down to the frame. Use a socket extender to make this easy and take care not to drop the nuts - a telescopic magnet may be your friend here!! 3. Remove the hose going from the pump output to the valves. 4. Remove the OE pump from the engine bay along with the mounting bracket. Now, take the mounting bracket off – it is important to take this bracket out with the pump because you’ll need it later for orientating the transplanted pump such that the electrical connection is facing upwards in the engine bay. Use E10 torx to remove the three torx heads (2 are shown in the photo).
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Part II: Disassembly of the AMG pump and motor
Part II: Disassembly of the AMG pump and motor.
Refer to the corresponding labeled figures / photos with red arrows / circles / boxes: 5. Now you need to get to the business end of the pump and remove the motor. Remove the clamps that retain the filter to the housing by prying gently on the top with a slotted screwdriver. Put your finger on the clamps to make sure they don’t spring off into oblivion! 6. You can now pull off the bottom air filter assembly. Look down into the filter to ensure it isn’t clogged – you may want to clean it. 7. On the other half of the pump, you will see the first metal impeller plate held onto the motor shaft with a 13 mm nut and a slot on the top of the rotor. 8. Remove the nut using an open-ended wrench and slotted screwdriver to stop the rotor from turning. Slide the top impeller off with its spacer. ![]() 9. Now you want to remove the next plate (attached to plastic side housing). 10. Now remove the long spacer on the motor shaft and the second / bottom impeller. 11. Now you are down to where the motor is secured to the housing by the metal plate. Remove the T20 torx screws. 12. The plate is ‘wedged’ into the recess of the housing and so you will need to pry the plate up evenly. Use curved picks to dig in and pull up (again, evenly) so that you don’t damage the bearing or motor shaft. ![]() 13. The motor (still attached to the plate) should now slide out relatively easy. 14. The complete motor looks like this with the bottom corresponding to the side nearest the passenger side of the engine bay. 15. Depending on whether you want to clean out the motor and remove carbon from the commutator and other parts (recommended), you may want to do more surgery to the assembly. As depicted by the arrows, there are 4 tabs that hold the plate to the rest of the motor. 16. If you look closely at each tab, you can see that it has been crimped at the edges to ensure that the plate doesn’t come upwards. Carefully use a pair of pliers or fine vise-grip to push in the crimped edges. I also needed to grind a little off the sides of the tabs using a Dremel. When done properly on all 4 tabs, the plate (with attached bearing) will slide upwards and off the shaft. Gently pry the plate off the metal motor housing so that you don’t damage the bearing or deform the motor shaft. ![]() 17. Disassemble the motor assembly into its individual components. Use compressed air and a gentle brush to remove carbon deposits. I used a sweet little brush that I found near my fiance’s make-up bag. 18. The plastic piece that houses the brushes can be slid apart slightly to make extraction of the brushes a little easier. In addition, it makes it a little easier to clean the assembly. 19. The carbon brushes can be removed by using pliers to push out the 4 small tabs highlighted by the red lines. Be careful to not allow the spring to fly out and disappear! Disconnect the wire by prying open the two metal bars securing it (red box). You will need fine pliers and most likely a pick to pry it open in order to use the pliers. 20. From the side view, you can see how the carbon brushes will slide out. First, feed the wire back into the slot at the top of the brush rail, and feed it out the rear of the guide. Use the wire to pull the brushes out. ![]() Replace the brushes with K45 brushes – these are the same as found in the non-AMG pump. Install everything back in the correct order by doing the above steps in reverse. Note 1: If you are installing new brushes, then the appropriate bedding and shaping procedure needs to be followed for carbon brushes. In addition, the commutator should be conditioned with a special honing stone. Here’s a good link to consider for this job. Note 2: If you removed the top metal plate, then you need to secure it again! This is a pain in the butt as you need to find a way to crimp the tabs back (not easy). After that, replace all the remaining parts in the reverse order. When tightening the final bolt before putting the clamped air filter assembly on, use some Locktite to make sure it doesn’t come loose. Put the pump back on its bracket and reinstall. Replace the electrical connector and start the car. Check for air flow by putting your hand or paper near the pump outlet. Make sure the pump disengages after 40 seconds (test relay function). If it’s working, reconnect the air hose, clear your P0410 error codes and you’re done!
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Part III: Differences between the AMG- and non-AMG pumps
Part III: Differences between the AMG- and non-AMG pumps.
Refer to the corresponding labeled figures / photos with red arrows / circles / boxes: 21. Here are the two pumps side by side (non-AMG pump on the left and AMG pump on the right). The hatched line shows the height differences between the two pumps. The arrows show differences in how the air filter assemblies are different. In the AMG pump, clamps are used. In the non-AMG pump, torx screws are used. Importantly, the circles show the air outlet nozzles. Note that they flow in opposite directions! 22. The curved red arrows show the differences in the impeller blades. Importantly, they push air in opposite directions! 23. Shows the recess and the diagonal position of the torx screw holes used to secure the non-AMG motor. 24. Here we see how the torx screws are orienated 90 degrees to the plate in the case of the AMG pump. ![]() 25. The red box shows how the brushes on the non-AMG motor are located at the top of the motor. 26. In contrast, the red box shows how the brushes are at the bottom of the AMG motor. 27. The electrical connector points away from the top of the non-AMG pump. 28. The electrical connector points upwards and half-way along the side of the AMG pump. ![]() 29. The center holes of the impellers from the non-AMG pump are wide to accommodate its wider motor shaft. 30. In comparison, the center holes of the impellers from the AMG pump are not as wide. This reflects the smaller diameter shaft on the AMG motor. 31. The non-AMG impellers are only about 6 mm thick. 32. The AMG impellers are significantly wider (~10 mm thick). This is important. ![]() In summary, there are so many differences between these two pumps that it is easy to see why we can’t just easily substitute one for the other. So….. You want to proceed with transplanting the non-AMG motor into the AMG housing? Proceed to Part IV...
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Part IV: Transplantation of the non-AMG motor into the ‘hybrid’ housing
Part IV: Transplantation of the non-AMG motor into the ‘hybrid’ housing.
What can you do when the plastic assembly is melted beyond repair and the brush assemblies are mangled? This is the more likely scenario since these smog pumps don’t see the type of use that is normally associated with carbon brush wear. This is where fabrication of a ‘hybrid’ pump comes in play. Clearly the AMG motor needs to be removed and replaced with the non-AMG motor. The two motors are, however, completely different (as seen in Part III) so many modifications need to be done in order to transplant the non-AMG motor into the AMG housing. Refer to the corresponding labeled figures / photos with red arrows / circles / boxes: 33. You have already removed the motor from the AMG pump (Part II). The non-AMG motor will not fit into this housing so it needs to be modified. 34. I cut off approximately 59 mm (measuring from the top) of the AMG plastic housing using a hacksaw. I made sure that I had a good even cut all the way around. Save the bottom part! 35. Then I took the bottom half of the housing and worked on that. The arrows point to where the outer edge of the tab needs to be filed a little to accommodate the new motor easily. 36. As you look into the housing from where the motor sits, you will see 4 protruding ridges (about 2 mm thick) running the length of the inside. Grind or file these down. ![]() 37. Now to removing the non-AMG motor! Unfortunately, it cannot be unscrewed from below and slid out of the plastic housing. First, you must unscrew the T20 torx screws (3 of them) to remove the top cover. 38. The electrical connection of the motor is now exposed. You will need to remove the connectors using a soldering iron. Carefully pull up on the electrodes as you free them. The black connector and the electrodes will slide upwards. In contrast to the AMG motor, you will see a slot on the motor shaft from the top. You must use a slotted screwdriver to secure this while you remove the bottom nut from the motor shaft with an open-ended wrench (turn clockwise to open). Remove all the impellers, spacers, and washers. Now the non-AMG motor is easy to remove. Unscrew the T20 torx screws (2 of them) securing the motor to the plastic housing and slide the motor out. [Note: If you purchased the pump used, it would be wise to pull the motor apart (similar to above) and to at least check the brushes for excessive wear.] 39. By now, you’ve seen the two motors and you realize they are completely different and neither one will fit in its counterpart’s housing! Take the non-AMG housing and using a hacksaw, cut off the top of the housing so that about 59 mm (measuring from the bottom) remains. It is important for this part to be correct because it needs to articulate with the AMG housing and it also needs to allow proper fitment of the non-AMG electrical connector. Retain the top part of the non-AMG housing! 40. This photo again shows how different the non-AMG motor is secured to the housing. Photos not shown: The metal wall of the non-AMG motor has two circular metal tabs protruding about 2 mm. Grind these down using a Dremel with a carbide tip. In addition, bore out the center holes of the AMG pump impellers to 12 mm so that they fit over the wider motor shaft. ![]() 41. Insert the non-AMG motor into the bottom AMG housing and secure it to the housing using the existing T20 torx screw holes. However, use the 3 thin washers (listed in parts) each side to raise the pump up from the bottom of the recess about 4 mm. You want to secure the motor to the housing in such a way that the electrical connector is going to point upwards in the engine bay so keep this in mind! Also place the first spacer over the motor shaft. 42. Now we need to restrict the space between the motor and housing (i.e. the non-AMG motor doesn’t have a metal plate on top like the AMG motor). I used hard plastic and cut it down to size so that it fit the space on either side. I’m not sure if this is absolutely necessary; however, I can’t imagine the air flow dynamics would be optimal if air is allowed to go up through the housing on either side freely. 43. Insert the bottom AMG impeller with the widened center hole over the motor shaft. 44. Insert the tall spacer on top of the bottom impeller. ![]() 45. Insert the next plate over the shaft and tall spacer. The plastic sides of this plate should fit snugly into the rest of the plastic housing. 46. Insert the top AMG impeller with the widened center hole. 47. Insert the last spacer. 48. Secure all impellers onto the shaft using the nut. Use a slotted screwdriver in the slot at the other end of the shaft to stop rotation while you tighten this nut down. Use Loctite to ensure it remains fastened! ![]() 49. Install the air filter assembly onto the end of the pump and secure using the metal clasps. 50. Now the hybrid pump looks like this. No top yet! 51. Take the top that you cut off the non-AMG housing and place it over the top of the motor. You can see that it doesn’t align perfectly with the bottom part – no problem when you have plastic welder! 52. Re-solder the non-AMG electrical connector in such a way that the pins are pointing up when you install the pump in the car. If it is pointing downwards, that’ll be a big pain in the butt in terms of the connection. ![]() 53. The re-soldered piece should look like this. Check your soldering skills using a multimeter. 54. Seal off the top using the black plastic plate with the T20 torx screws. 55. Now we need to join the non-AMG top to the AMG bottom using plastic welder and a few pieces of plastic that are cut to size (to account for the difference in shape and the fact that the 2 pieces are geometrically dissimilar). Apply the plastic welder liberally (for the entire job, I used about half a tube of this stuff) so that the plastic housing is completely sealed from the environment. It’s not the prettiest sight in the world, but it’s sealed! Allow to set for about 30 minutes. 56. The hybrid pump is now complete and all you have to do is replace the stock mounting bracket (torque to 8 Nm) and put it back into its ascribed space in the engine bay (torque the 10 mm nuts to 4 Nm). Again, if you planned it correctly, the electrical connector is now pointing upwards (which makes it easier to install / remove) and the air output nozzle should be pointing towards the front of the car (like the AMG pump). Because the end of the non-AMG motor is longer, it will be a slightly tighter fit in the existing space; however, it fits just fine. Reconnect the rubber tubing and test out your pump (as described above)! ![]() Short video clip of the hybrid pump in action: (Note: the pump appears to be very loud – this is mostly due to the sound of air blowing out the open end of the tube. Apologies for the night-time video – not the clearest!) ![]() Important points about this hybrid pump: A) Due to the modifications to the housing, it is going to have different resonance and sound properties. This hybrid is louder to the point that you can hear it clearly in the cabin and you can hear it shut off after 40 seconds. B) The air flow in this hybrid appears to be significantly more than the AMG pump. I say this based on how my stock pump used to flow; however, it may not have been flowing correctly due to its condition. In any case, I reduced the flow of air going to my valves by fitting a hose “Y” junction just before where the rubber air hose meets the aluminum tube. Be careful with your positioning of the open “Y” outlet!
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very nice writes up like usual.
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^^ ditto ! great job !
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Much much thank for this excellent DYI.
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Bravo! Thank you!
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Geez, boohoo, you are some sort of evil genius or something. That is the longest write up I've seen to date. How much did you save again? About $280?
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Fantastic write up!
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now thats a write up.
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Wow! thats all I can say lol.
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WOW, now that is how to do a DIY! Awesome job!!
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Another outstanding DIY post from boohooramblers. Who’d have thunk it? =) Since most of us have – or will in the foreseeable future – experienced every conceivable malady with our C32’s, I’ve bookmarked this one, too.
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Bravo!!
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You are The Man Patrick!
This would've been great for me a month ago since I had my air injection pump completely replaced... Keep up the great work! |
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Related to this, wasn't there a recall on the relay controlling the pump on our cars? I've got the same CEL code.
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i replaced the relay on this and it stopped my pump from running on after the car is off. i bought $60 at the dealership but i think you can get it for $30 online somewhere.
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Ok, I'm still under the mercedes extended warranty, so I'll try to get them to cover it. Hopefully will get a new pump out of it. Crossing my fingers.
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if there was a tsb on it, probably. i would search and look for the tsb number.
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Awesome info as usual, thanks!! If they give me trouble, I'll show these to them
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Thank you, great writeup
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