Kleemann C55 K S8 - Page 2

CHATMANR · 09-08-2004, 08:08 PM

Will it be C.A.R.B. legal?

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Pierre32///AMG · 09-08-2004, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vraa

Exactly Neal!

Has anyone tried this car agianst the 65's?

The C55 Kleemann is fater, hands down.

The CL65 does: C55 Kleemann

0-60: 4.4 sg 3.8 sg
0-100: 8.9 sg 8.4 sg (estm)
0-150: 19.7sg 19.4 sg (estm)

and 0->1km: 22 sg......and 04' E55 does in 22.9 sg.

Thanks! CoryU

ToboC32 · 09-09-2004, 10:35 AM

Looks like my business meeting in Colorado Springs tomorrow may not be as bad as I thought. I'll try to drop by for my own personal viewing.
Tom

Nicholai_AMG · 09-09-2004, 02:21 PM

imagin this mod on the R171 SLK55 and the 7G tranny!!!!

CHATMANR · 09-16-2004, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHATMANR

Will it be C.A.R.B. legal?

Brandon @ Kleemann · 09-17-2004, 11:01 AM

Yes!

moa4r · 09-17-2004, 11:25 AM

amazing car; I'd take that over e55 in a heartbeat;

cntlaw · 09-18-2004, 06:36 AM

It must be great news for the true and pure sports fans ....faster than a GT2 or Ferrari with a third of the price!

Wonder how reliable and pratical to drive one of those as a day-to-day car ?

cnt

Frisco · 09-18-2004, 10:04 AM

Looks awesome

cntlaw · 09-19-2004, 01:01 PM

Wonder if anyone thought about heat dispensation for a 450hp engine in the C. I already felt the C55 interior is hotter than any cars I used to have.

CHATMANR · 09-19-2004, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cntlaw

Wonder if anyone thought about heat dispensation for a 450hp engine in the C. I already felt the C55 interior is hotter than any cars I used to have.

While W203 sedans are known for "heat sink" interiors, esp. around the driveshaft area, the A/C takes care of that. Unless the person is "racing", I'd imagine that they'd leave the unit on AUTO. The H.P. losses are going to affect it that much. My buddy has a 750hp MK4 Supra, and runs his A/C all the time, even when making a "kill", because of the heat from the driveline housing & firewall.

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DbleNckel · 09-20-2004, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cntlaw

Wonder if anyone thought about heat dispensation for a 450hp engine in the C. I already felt the C55 interior is hotter than any cars I used to have.

I'll have to agree w/ you on that....next time you drive for a bit, place your hand on the ashtray cover right above the tranny...feels like that thing is conducting heat!

Nickerz · 10-01-2004, 10:37 PM

Do any or all of these mods void the MB warranty? Or does Kleemann put up their own warranty once modified?

Nick

Shine_1023 · 10-02-2004, 11:31 AM

A 100% killing machine ! I like it.

I'd recommend gearbox enhencement to manage that
boosted TQ.

Ted Baldwin · 10-03-2004, 11:33 PM

...........I noticed this car on a web press release a little over a week ago. It essentially ended my w210 E55 project. My plan was to build a a super car by changing the diff of a W210 E55 to that of an E320 and then placing a supercharger as well as a limited slip diff. I thought this would be a great idea since W210 E55's are cheap these days(relatively speaking of course).
............Well, any performance gains I would have derived from the above will be totally wiped out by this C55K of Kleemann's. So Now, I am going to go the Kleemann C55K route. But, as another member has stated, I wondred what would happen if you did this to an SLK55?
...........My local dealer has an SLK350 with a price of $52K. This is without any dealer mark up. I can only imagine what the confirmed price of an SLK 55 will be. Such a project with an SLK55 might be a bit too expensive for what is afterall a two sitter car. A C55 is $55K sitthing at the same dealership. For those who want to wait a year or two, you can probably get one for under $40K at that time. Strange as it may seem, the Kleemann C55K, if it can truly and predictably do 0-60 in 3.8 secs, is an amazing bargain which will become an even better bargain if you wait a year or two to buy your C55 before adding the s/c and limited slip etc. If true, then you are getting a four sitter SLR.........well I'm exerberating a bit, but not by much.
............Warranty issues are a concern in general. For me, I am okay with it. I have two Kleemann cars and the only major issue has been water pump problems on one of the cars.

Ted

rguy · 10-04-2004, 01:17 AM

What kind of water pump problems? Do you think it is because of the supercharger or because of Mercedes?

vitaman · 10-04-2004, 09:39 AM

Where did you get the Kleemann modifications done and how long did you have to leave your car?

Ted Baldwin · 10-04-2004, 05:01 PM

..............the modifications were done at Mbautowerks. There is nothing wrong with my car. They both drive fine. The water pump for the s/c has had to be replaced twice on one of the cars. This I understand is a known problem with Kleemann's V6 superchargers. I further understand that no such problems exist with the V8 superchargers.

Ted

Chappy · 10-04-2004, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ted Baldwin

..............the modifications were done at Mbautowerks.

MB Autowerks closed

Nickerz · 10-18-2004, 09:20 PM

So Ted, are you going to opt for the C55K S8 afterall? Anxious to hear any updates!

Nick

KleemannCLK32K · 10-19-2004, 10:05 AM

Bradon,
Can we get the same result on C209 CLK55??
I really would like to see the car in person!!!

Ted Baldwin · 01-26-2005, 03:01 PM

So Ted, are you going to opt for the C55K S8 afterall? Anxious to hear any updates

.......sorry for the late response. I have a CLS65 on order. I understand I am first on the list in the south eeast. I also like the Kleemann C55. It appears that the Kleemann C55 will be faster and cheaper than the CLS65 even after the CLS65 undergoes a Kleemann upgrade with LSD. Warranty was not an issue for me previously, but I am about to shell out $3500 to replace the waterpump in my Kleemann CLK32 for the 3rd time......so I am leaning more towards the Kleemann C55, because it will be a much less expensive car to fix should something go wrong.

Ted

Brandon @ Kleemann · 01-26-2005, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KleemannCLK32K

Bradon,
Can we get the same result on C209 CLK55??
I really would like to see the car in person!!!

100% you can get the same result. I have sold the C55 S8, so no seeing that car anymore. HOWEVER.... I am picking up our SLK55 tomorrow! An even more wicked vehicle to be sure, 220 lbs lighter, 7 SPD etc.

Brandon @ Kleemann · 01-26-2005, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chappy

MB Autowerks closed

Yes- But Donnie can be found at MBS motors. We continue to work with him.

Chappy · 01-27-2005, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrandonG

Yes- But Donnie can be found at MBS motors. We continue to work with him.

Excellent!

09-09-2004, 02:21 PM	#29
Nicholai_AMG Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 77	imagin this mod on the R171 SLK55 and the 7G tranny!!!! __________________ ______________________ AMG power

09-17-2004, 11:25 AM	#32
moa4r MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: McLean, VA Posts: 2,295 Drives: S4	amazing car; I'd take that over e55 in a heartbeat; __________________

09-18-2004, 06:36 AM	#33
cntlaw MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 2,469 Drives: C55AMG W203; 330i E90	It must be great news for the true and pure sports fans ....faster than a GT2 or Ferrari with a third of the price! Wonder how reliable and pratical to drive one of those as a day-to-day car ? cnt __________________ CNTLAW - Mercedes Benz C55 AMG W203, Bought Brand new August 2004, Brilliant Silver/Black Leathers/Chrome Trims, MB Audio 50, Electric Rear Sunshade; Aftermarkets: AMG Sterling Silver Style III 18", Michelin PS2 225/40/18F 255/35/18R, Eurosports Carbon Fibre Lip, 2006 OEM CLK 3-Slates Grill Kit, Mario's AMG Emblem, Escort Passport X50 Blue, Dark Grey Pugs x 4. HID: PIAA 6200K D2S, City Lights: PIAA Tera LED 6500K; Fogs: Philips Diamond Vision 5000K H7.

09-18-2004, 10:04 AM	#34
Frisco MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 1,168 Drives: 03 CLK500, 04 X3, No 07 GT3RS :(	Looks awesome __________________ Link to My Exhaust Sound Clip

09-19-2004, 01:01 PM	#35
cntlaw MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 2,469 Drives: C55AMG W203; 330i E90	Wonder if anyone thought about heat dispensation for a 450hp engine in the C. I already felt the C55 interior is hotter than any cars I used to have. __________________ CNTLAW - Mercedes Benz C55 AMG W203, Bought Brand new August 2004, Brilliant Silver/Black Leathers/Chrome Trims, MB Audio 50, Electric Rear Sunshade; Aftermarkets: AMG Sterling Silver Style III 18", Michelin PS2 225/40/18F 255/35/18R, Eurosports Carbon Fibre Lip, 2006 OEM CLK 3-Slates Grill Kit, Mario's AMG Emblem, Escort Passport X50 Blue, Dark Grey Pugs x 4. HID: PIAA 6200K D2S, City Lights: PIAA Tera LED 6500K; Fogs: Philips Diamond Vision 5000K H7.

09-09-2004, 10:35 AM	#28
ToboC32 Almost a Member! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Colorado Posts: 46 Drives: The ones that move me	Looks like my business meeting in Colorado Springs tomorrow may not be as bad as I thought. I'll try to drop by for my own personal viewing. Tom

09-17-2004, 11:01 AM	#31
Brandon @ Kleemann PLATINUM SPONSOR Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 930	Yes!

10-01-2004, 10:37 PM	#38
Nickerz Super Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: California Posts: 802 Drives: ML350 '06	Do any or all of these mods void the MB warranty? Or does Kleemann put up their own warranty once modified? Nick __________________ 2005 E55 - DynoJet: 425rwhp, 482rwtq (Stock) - Gone But Not Forgotten "You can accomplish anything in life, provided that you do not mind who gets the credit." -Harry S. Truman

10-02-2004, 11:31 AM	#39
Shine_1023 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Taiwan, ROC Posts: 337 Drives: FX35 plus	A 100% killing machine ! I like it. I'd recommend gearbox enhencement to manage that boosted TQ. __________________ 2006 Carlsson style CLS350 black/black AMG grill,Brabus shift knob,Chrome rings,DVD w speed limiter removed,quad AMG oval tips,6000k front, custom steering w, PSS-9,K&N, 50_cell ceramic cats, Work/XSA-02C, F : slotted_330mm 2 pcs/R : AMG 4pot_330mm

10-03-2004, 11:33 PM	#40
Ted Baldwin MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 3,243 Drives: 300ce	...........I noticed this car on a web press release a little over a week ago. It essentially ended my w210 E55 project. My plan was to build a a super car by changing the diff of a W210 E55 to that of an E320 and then placing a supercharger as well as a limited slip diff. I thought this would be a great idea since W210 E55's are cheap these days(relatively speaking of course). ............Well, any performance gains I would have derived from the above will be totally wiped out by this C55K of Kleemann's. So Now, I am going to go the Kleemann C55K route. But, as another member has stated, I wondred what would happen if you did this to an SLK55? ...........My local dealer has an SLK350 with a price of $52K. This is without any dealer mark up. I can only imagine what the confirmed price of an SLK 55 will be. Such a project with an SLK55 might be a bit too expensive for what is afterall a two sitter car. A C55 is $55K sitthing at the same dealership. For those who want to wait a year or two, you can probably get one for under $40K at that time. Strange as it may seem, the Kleemann C55K, if it can truly and predictably do 0-60 in 3.8 secs, is an amazing bargain which will become an even better bargain if you wait a year or two to buy your C55 before adding the s/c and limited slip etc. If true, then you are getting a four sitter SLR.........well I'm exerberating a bit, but not by much. ............Warranty issues are a concern in general. For me, I am okay with it. I have two Kleemann cars and the only major issue has been water pump problems on one of the cars. Ted

10-04-2004, 01:17 AM	#41
rguy Super Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 580	What kind of water pump problems? Do you think it is because of the supercharger or because of Mercedes?

10-04-2004, 09:39 AM	#42
vitaman Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 178 Drives: E55 Flint Grey/Merlot	Where did you get the Kleemann modifications done and how long did you have to leave your car?

10-04-2004, 05:01 PM	#43
Ted Baldwin MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 3,243 Drives: 300ce	..............the modifications were done at Mbautowerks. There is nothing wrong with my car. They both drive fine. The water pump for the s/c has had to be replaced twice on one of the cars. This I understand is a known problem with Kleemann's V6 superchargers. I further understand that no such problems exist with the V8 superchargers. Ted

10-18-2004, 09:20 PM	#45
Nickerz Super Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: California Posts: 802 Drives: ML350 '06	So Ted, are you going to opt for the C55K S8 afterall? Anxious to hear any updates! Nick __________________ 2005 E55 - DynoJet: 425rwhp, 482rwtq (Stock) - Gone But Not Forgotten "You can accomplish anything in life, provided that you do not mind who gets the credit." -Harry S. Truman

10-19-2004, 10:05 AM	#46
KleemannCLK32K Almost a Member! Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 34	Bradon, Can we get the same result on C209 CLK55?? I really would like to see the car in person!!! __________________

01-26-2005, 03:01 PM	#47
Ted Baldwin MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 3,243 Drives: 300ce	So Ted, are you going to opt for the C55K S8 afterall? Anxious to hear any updates .......sorry for the late response. I have a CLS65 on order. I understand I am first on the list in the south eeast. I also like the Kleemann C55. It appears that the Kleemann C55 will be faster and cheaper than the CLS65 even after the CLS65 undergoes a Kleemann upgrade with LSD. Warranty was not an issue for me previously, but I am about to shell out $3500 to replace the waterpump in my Kleemann CLK32 for the 3rd time......so I am leaning more towards the Kleemann C55, because it will be a much less expensive car to fix should something go wrong. Ted

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