c36 conversion

[edemac8]

Hey guys, just wondering... how often do 36's get converted into 55's? or is it mainly 43's that get converted. If it isnt so unheard of, whats required to do to the car to handle the extreme boost in power? transmission, brakes, etc... Anyone done it with their 36?

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[BenzMaster19]

For the C36 I would just get a Kleeman Supercharger and that alone will give it well over 400hp.

For a 55 conversion, you would use a C43 because they are both V-8's already. Nothing much has to be changed except (I think) the tranny.. and thats about it. From the 4.3 to the 5.5 it will give you roughly 50hp ontop, the 5.5 pumps out roughly 350hp..

[jayrasheed]

From what my mechanic has informed me ( He owns a 1999 C43, and used to own my very C36) that a 55 engine will fit easy in a C36 since the front frame of a c36 and that of the 43 are exactly the same.

So its just easier to start with a 43 since the wiring harness is there and only an ecu reflash or swap is needed.

[edemac8]

Thats what I thought, i understand the easier way is the 43, but a v8 for a 16 yearolds first car was a little much. Dad wouldnt let me buy a v8, now im a little older and still love my car (wouldnt trade it for anything), I was just considering my options with a little more power. Id rather spend my time and money under the hood

My worry about a supercharger is that I already have 130xxx on the car and have heard that a kleeman will only stress the engine to much with those many miles... Is that correct? or just more bs....

[Ted Baldwin]

.......ok, i just couldnt help it. I hve not ben posting but felt compelld to respond to this one. Everything that has been said so far in this thread is incorrect. Not sure where you get all this stuff from.

Ted

[BenzMaster19]

Originally Posted by Ted Baldwin

.......ok, i just couldnt help it. I hve not ben posting but felt compelld to respond to this one. Everything that has been said so far in this thread is incorrect. Not sure where you get all this stuff from.

Ted

Well ok, why don't you help out then!??

[MercBimmerman]

Wouldn't it be easier to sell the C36 (or keep it and leave it alone) and buy a C43?

C36 are kind of a rarity or at least finding one that it close to stock and hasn't been ruined by mods.

[edemac8]

I love my c36, and I would argue possibly better than the 43's (a bit better balanced and arguably quicker around a track wouldnt you say)! I dont plan on selling it, to be honest ever. Its mint, literally looks like its never been sat in or driven. All I want are 18 Monoblocks.

This was just a curiosity of mine, that i was searching for an answer for. But what incorrect about what was said? Again its all just curiosity....

[MercBimmerman]

Originally Posted by edemac8

I love my c36, and I would argue possibly better than the 43's (a bit better balanced and arguably quicker around a track wouldnt you say)! I dont plan on selling it, to be honest ever. Its mint, literally looks like its never been sat in or driven. All I want are 18 Monoblocks.

This was just a curiosity of mine, that i was searching for an answer for. But what incorrect about what was said? Again its all just curiosity....

Please to hear that. I agree with the upgrade on rims. I know stock ones can make it look a bit dated. I'm not a big fan of extremely over stock sized rims though I wouldn't mind going one up on the 2001 16" CLK rims I have on my C280. 17" AMG are cheaper to come buy and so are the tires over the 18" ones. But, I do hope you keep everything else stock. If you do plan to upgrade consider a Brabus package, they do it right.

[AMS Performance]

Or you could just get a C43 and mod it NA up to 350HP/TQ, its not that hard and its much simpler than either scenario.

[BenzMaster19]

Originally Posted by edemac8

I love my c36, and I would argue possibly better than the 43's (a bit better balanced and arguably quicker around a track wouldnt you say)! I dont plan on selling it, to be honest ever. Its mint, literally looks like its never been sat in or driven. All I want are 18 Monoblocks.

This was just a curiosity of mine, that i was searching for an answer for. But what incorrect about what was said? Again its all just curiosity....

I agree, Its VERY hard to find one thats not been ruined with some form of garbage Mod, everything I see around here for sale (which is not many in the first place)has disguisting mods added to it! Haha and why pay for an 8 when you can get a 6 thats the same speed and cheaper! lol. I wouldn't sell my C36 aswell ever. You can have other cars definitly, but I would always have a C36 in my garage.

And about the Kleeman supercharger,, these 3.6's are one of the best built engines, their cast iron blocks!! I've seen a guy add a Bi-Turbo to his C36 stock block pumping out 561HP! Actually these AMG engines perform BETTER as they age aswell. But adding a supercharger would definitly take away the AMG stockness.. But it all depends on what you personally like.

[MercBimmerman]

I'll probably be looking to purchase a C36 sometime next year. Hope I can find one that close to stock.

If I can't find a decent one, I might go with a BMW 850i

[NitrogenBalance]

Originally Posted by Ted Baldwin

.......ok, i just couldnt help it. I hve not ben posting but felt compelld to respond to this one. Everything that has been said so far in this thread is incorrect. Not sure where you get all this stuff from.

Ted

I was thinking the same thing, might as well try and make it AWD and 6 speed while your at it. C43 W202 already comes with a V8 so why swap the motor out to painfully try and put it into the same 202 platform of another era

Kleemann dosen't make a kompressor for the C36.

[AMS Performance]

Originally Posted by NitrogenBalance

Kleemann dosen't make a kompressor for the C36.

Correct, the only official kit that ever was released by a major tuner was the twin turbo Mosselman turbo, other then that all the FI C36s have been custom and done by individuals. With that said its an amazing motor to boost with its bulletproof internals

[silence]

yeah, this thread is great.

search?

omey- where's the proof of this 350 hp na c43 you've been talking about for the last year or so?

[NitrogenBalance]

Drew, whats up with the car, track it, dyno it, yours blow up too? J/K let's hope not. I'm curious to what came of yours.

You may be able pick up 45bhp with alot of mods sans boost? Might take every N/A mod available though...

Originally Posted by silence

yeah, this thread is great.

search?

omey- where's the proof of this 350 hp na c43 you've been talking about for the last year or so?

[edemac8]

Bimmerman- I know of a complete stock, black on black '97 c36, about 120xxx in menlo park california. Best year for the 36 in my opinion. Its advertised in the bay area section in craigslist.

I have seen it personally and its a flawless car. Looks and sounded to be very well cared for... Hope it helps a little, if your seriously looking to buy one


Benzmaster- I have also heard before that the 36's do age well and perform just as strong since day one. But is it just myth that says they perform better? Anyone else with their two-cents worth on this opinion?

[AMS Performance]

Correct, it is possible but would require every mod available for the car to get it done (and just barely). Still.... sure beats trying to do a whole engine swap which can get pricey.

[silence]

Originally Posted by NitrogenBalance

Drew, whats up with the car, track it, dyno it, yours blow up too? J/K let's hope not. I'm curious to what came of yours.

You may be able pick up 45bhp with alot of mods sans boost? Might take every N/A mod available though...

car runs well- I'm happy with the power and love to drive it (the once a month I take her out, lol). I'm still slowly but surely cleaning things up and making it all pretty- plus finishing that new stereo install I started about a year ago.

I'm in no rush anymore at all- I really focused all year on training/racing my bikes, a season which just basically ended. It's getting a bit cold here now, but I plan to focus a bit more on the car for a bit now and perhaps get it fully up to the show quality I want for next spring. Regardless, my main focus will be my racing.

At some point I will get it on a dyno again- but have no real plans to upgrade it from how it stands now...



somewhat of an aside- we do plan to pick up another "nice" car here in just over 20 months. We are thinking of an r500.

[oneill_1]

Originally Posted by MercBimmerman

I'll probably be looking to purchase a C36 sometime next year. Hope I can find one that close to stock.

If I can't find a decent one, I might go with a BMW 850i

those cars are beautiful but i hope you do your research on those car and on the car you'd buy. the maintenance on the two considered cars are worlds different so i hope your pockets are deep. good luck on your search whatever you choose.

-OG