Wanted: W202 C55 AMG, or a C43

[nova72sc]

Hi, i am new to the forum, i cant seem to find a classified thread, so figured since i am looking for a W202 AMG this is where i would post, so, i am looking for a W202 C55, yes a W202 not a W203, so 98-2000 C55 true AMG not a C43 with a 5.5 swap, i know chances are less than slim to none, but i figured this would be the best place to look, and more realistcaly i am looking for a black W202 C43 with 2 tone interior, location doesnt matter, i am willing to fly there and drive back, i think that there will be more of a market for me in the spring time but if i come across the right one i will not hesitate to pull out the cash and pick it up, again really looking to see if i can find a W202 C55, but also looking for a C43, thanks everyone!!

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[C43AMG]

You're not going to find a W202 C55 on this side of the pond.There are a few who have transplanted the 55 motor into our vehicles though.Keep your eyes open , there are always a few models for sale.

[PJmak]

u gona have to fly to europe for a real c55 and its still gona be hard to find



good luck

[AMGC]

[AMS Performance]

Just get a C43 and do a bunch of NA mods to it to get as close to the C55 numbers as you can. Simple as that.

[nova72sc]

I figured i wouldnt find a True C55 but hey still worth a shot to put it out there :-) but i realize i most likely will aquire a C43, may or may not to the swap or upgrades unsure yet, but my real dream car is Tony's C55 designo orane with the 2 tone interior :-) love that cars, sooooooo badassssss!!! anyone ever gone through the hassle of importing a car to the states? i know it will have to meet federal emmisions for the model year, be inspected etc. . . . just wonderin if anyones actually done it first hand, just guestimating that it will cost like 40 grand just for the importing, shipping and document fees, but thats just a guess, plus the cost of the car itself. anyone know who owns that 2000 C55 that is the orange metalic color??

[U n i o n 0015]

From the little information that is out there about the W202 C55's, they were all C43's that got sent back to AMG for conversion. There's 40 of them, if wikipedia is even remotely accurate, all Euro cars only. Now to go importing something like that would be a MAJOR hassle, as first you'd have to find the cars and see if any are for sale. Maybe a car broker could find it for you, but I'd imagine they're busy hunting down classic Ferraris and not a mild AMG car. It'd be cheaper to buy a C43 and put the 5.5L motor in, as that's all AMG did.

[nova72sc]

Union, thanks for the info, i know that it is a C43 that is sent back to AMG to get outfitted with the 5.5, but it wasnt just a 5.5 swap, they recieved better transmission parts, better rear differential, floor pan clearance modifications for the new diff, tuning, and M.E. programing, i know i could buy any 202 chassis and put a 5.5 in it but it will merely be a clone, i know a real C55 is not worth it or practical, but it is the car i want, i dont want a wanna be, i want a purebred 202 C55 AMG, lol :-)

[BenzMaster19]

Originally Posted by nova72sc

Union, thanks for the info, i know that it is a C43 that is sent back to AMG to get outfitted with the 5.5, but it wasnt just a 5.5 swap, they recieved better transmission parts, better rear differential, floor pan clearance modifications for the new diff, tuning, and M.E. programing, i know i could buy any 202 chassis and put a 5.5 in it but it will merely be a clone, i know a real C55 is not worth it or practical, but it is the car i want, i dont want a wanna be, i want a purebred 202 C55 AMG, lol :-)

Don't we all!! lol

[nikrox]

member TJMJR sent me a link to an original C55. check it out

http://c280.pmneo.de/index.php?content=gallery&gid=614






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[silence]

why do you want one?

horrible collector car and less fun than if you just built up a fast one from a c43?

plus, can't think of any sentimental reasons etc. (not like the classic muscle car story where someones dad had one etc. etc., whatever)

[nova72sc]

that is what i am lookin for!!!!! thanks for the link

[ProjectC55]

Originally Posted by silence

why do you want one?

horrible collector car and less fun than if you just built up a fast one from a c43?

plus, can't think of any sentimental reasons etc. (not like the classic muscle car story where someones dad had one etc. etc., whatever)

Ah for once we can agree on something!

[ProjectC55]

Originally Posted by nova72sc

Union, thanks for the info, i know that it is a C43 that is sent back to AMG to get outfitted with the 5.5, but it wasnt just a 5.5 swap, they recieved better transmission parts, better rear differential, floor pan clearance modifications for the new diff, tuning, and M.E. programing, i know i could buy any 202 chassis and put a 5.5 in it but it will merely be a clone, i know a real C55 is not worth it or practical, but it is the car i want, i dont want a wanna be, i want a purebred 202 C55 AMG, lol :-)

What was better about the tranny? The diff is basically the same diff in the CLK55. The M.E. is the same as is pretty much the tuning. Only difference I see between the two cars even though in my opoinion it's still a C43 is that they went a little further by putting in the bigger CLK55 diff and had to modify the rear florr pan to fit it in. They only went 1 step more than I did with the same C43.

[tonysemi]

any suggestions on finding a c55 swap?

[nova72sc]

lol, come on guys to each there own, its more of a fantasy because i wont find one, like i said in my OP, i am also looking for a black C43 with 2 tone interior, if i had the opportunity of a C55 i dont know if i could pull the trigger to purchase it cause the price would probably be ridiculous plus importing it, no need to put down my "likes" but i do appreciate the input, i am the proud owner of an 88 190E now too LOL

[ProjectC55]

Originally Posted by nova72sc

lol, come on guys to each there own, its more of a fantasy because i wont find one, like i said in my OP, i am also looking for a black C43 with 2 tone interior, if i had the opportunity of a C55 i dont know if i could pull the trigger to purchase it cause the price would probably be ridiculous plus importing it, no need to put down my "likes" but i do appreciate the input, i am the proud owner of an 88 190E now too LOL

No one is trying to put you down. It's just that for you to find a converted C43 done by AMG and own it would be very very challenging. To All of us here and to those who have done the conversion ,a C43 convert done by a DIY person or one done by AMG to me is still a C43 with a 5.5L motor. Realisitically you'll be hard pressed to find one. Good Luck!
A w202 C43 with it's original diff ,tranny,and 5.5L motor would be lighter and perhaps even fasteer that a factory converted C43 to 55.

I'm sure I'm not missing anything not owning a factory converted C43 to 55,but in your famous words"to each his own".

[ProjectC55]

Originally Posted by tonysemi

any suggestions on finding a c55 swap?

You can find a motor on E-bay.

[John-in-Dallas]

Nova - I'm with you - "you never know until you try". Did you see the Brabus 5.8 that one of our forum members recently purchased? That's super rare....and now he's got a beautiful, awesome car. I think that interest in our cars will endure, even if they aren't the most collectible cars in the world. We're here, aren't we?

One thing that the real C55 should have over a 5.5 swap is the AMG cams. Those AMG cams are an important ingredient in the C43 because of the way the engine revs to redline. As one here with a 5.5 swap mentioned, his engine runs out of breath at 5K rpm. It's not just about the power the cams produce, it's about the character of the engine, and especially the sound. Nothin' better IMHO. And for me, that's what it's all about. I'd personally rather have 302 hp and the free revving nature of the AMG cams than 349 hp of low end power. There are so many other cars out there to choose if you just want a faster car....

[ProjectC55]

Originally Posted by John-in-Dallas

Nova - I'm with you - "you never know until you try". Did you see the Brabus 5.8 that one of our forum members recently purchased? That's super rare....and now he's got a beautiful, awesome car. I think that interest in our cars will endure, even if they aren't the most collectible cars in the world. We're here, aren't we?

One thing that the real C55 should have over a 5.5 swap is the AMG cams. Those AMG cams are an important ingredient in the C43 because of the way the engine revs to redline. As one here with a 5.5 swap mentioned, his engine runs out of breath at 5K rpm. It's not just about the power the cams produce, it's about the character of the engine, and especially the sound. Nothin' better IMHO. And for me, that's what it's all about. I'd personally rather have 302 hp and the free revving nature of the AMG cams than 349 hp of low end power. There are so many other cars out there to choose if you just want a faster car....

You're wrong. The W202 C55 does not come with special cams. My motor comes from an AMG E55. It is the same motor from bolts to nuts that they put in the factory converted C43 to 55. Where r you guys getting your facts from?

The W208 CLK55 and W202 43 to 55 conversion give alot of the so-called faster cars a run for the $ for it's age. Don't sleep. I have no fear of the new M3,SRT8's, nor Lexus IS-F.

[John-in-Dallas]

Where r you guys getting your facts from?

Well...I didn't pretend to have facts. I said a C55 "should have" the AMG cams. Guess I was wrong. So, a W210 E55 doesn't have AMG cams?

To my point then... I'd rather have a C43...to each his own.

...come across a C6 Corvette lately?

[ProjectC55]

Originally Posted by John-in-Dallas

Well...I didn't pretend to have facts. I said a C55 "should have" the AMG cams. Guess I was wrong. So, an E55 doesn't have AMG cams?

To my point then... I'd rather have a C43...to each his own.

...come across a C6 Corvette lately?

You r misunderstanding me I believe. ALL of the 5.5L motors are handmade by AMG and ALL of the N/A AMG 5.5L motors have the same cams for the N/A CL,S,SL,ML,CLK,E,G,SLK 55 (Higher comp pistons same cams),W203 C55(higher compression pistons but same cams), ALL of them have the SAME motor.

I have no fear of running a C6 none whatsoever. I already murdered one at Englishtown N.J.

[nova72sc]

john, saw that brabus he sent me his link that is one sick car i never even knew that it existed!!! awesome car,

project, thanks for understanding to each his own lol, and yeah i know a swap would be more practical and cheaper, but what are the chances of finding a c55 for sale haha, doubt it, and i must say your C55 is fu**ing sweet, nice dyno numbers!!!! congrats

[ProjectC55]

Originally Posted by nova72sc

project, thanks for understanding to each his own lol, and yeah i know a swap would be more practical and cheaper, but what are the chances of finding a c55 for sale haha, doubt it, and i must say your C55 is fu**ing sweet, nice dyno numbers!!!! congrats

Thanks Bro! Those dyno#'s are actually for my Eagle Talon I need to find and post my #'s for my "C".

Good luck on finding a nice W202 C43 you'll eventually get what u want.

[John-in-Dallas]

You r misunderstanding me I believe. ALL of the 5.5L motors are handmade by AMG and ALL of the N/A AMG 5.5L motors have the same cams for the N/A CL,S,SL,ML,CLK,E,G,SLK 55 (Higher comp pistons same cams),W203 C55(higher compression pistons but same cams), ALL of them have the SAME motor.

ProjectC55

I was off track - I was thinking about a more mundane 5.0 motor not an AMG motor. But it was Speedybenz that made a comment about his 5.5 not revving past 5K rpm like the C43 motor. I guess that's a bit surprising to me....do you find that also?

I'm sure your car is bloody fast...because the C43 is not too shabby.