** Evosport 63-Series Development Progress ** - Page 2

02c32AMG · 04-04-2008, 02:45 PM

that looks awesome...
cant wait to get my hands on a black edition

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2MANYCARS · 04-12-2008, 01:34 AM

I thought the Black Series are all sold out??? At least according to my dealer that is.

Andr3an · 04-12-2008, 03:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by otoupalik

Thanks.

We currently offer "blackline" lights.

thanks
Brad

do you have pics of the "blackline" lights? is it the same as Brabus Bullit's?

Blown281 · 04-15-2008, 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by otoupalik

And now..... final dyno numbers as delivered:

There is more to be had on the top end, but we ran out of time. The next one we will get some more!!!!!!

Here is the car hitting 200 on the dyno - YOUTUBE LINK 1 and YOUTUBE LINK 2

Thanks for all that followed this build!

Iv got a couple questions.

Do you think it will be this easy to get into this rwhp range with the c63?

How reliable is the 63 engine at this power lever? also how reliable is the trannsmission at this power lever?

Do you have any 1/4 mile times from this car? Id really like to know what kind of trap speeds you would see with this kind of power.

Thanks, Doug

otoupalik · 04-15-2008, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blown281

Iv got a couple questions.

Do you think it will be this easy to get into this rwhp range with the c63?

How reliable is the 63 engine at this power lever? also how reliable is the trannsmission at this power lever?

Do you have any 1/4 mile times from this car? Id really like to know what kind of trap speeds you would see with this kind of power.

Thanks, Doug

1. Ease - should be about the same as the CLK63BS. Not "easy" per-se, but doable.

2. Reliability - there should be no problems with the motor or trans

3. Trap & 1/4 mile - not yet, but it is coming.

thanks
brad

jrcart · 04-15-2008, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Addicted2Speed

Nothing except exhaust, all make 500bhp.

Yes, all 63 engines are the same mechanically (different intakes), but the varying HP figures are controlled/limited via electronics...And no the C63 does not make 500 HP like the BS it only makes 450 to the best of my knowledge.

jrcart · 04-15-2008, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by otoupalik

1. Ease - should be about the same as the CLK63BS. Not "easy" per-se, but doable.

2. Reliability - there should be no problems with the motor or trans

3. Trap & 1/4 mile - not yet, but it is coming.

thanks
brad

Weather permitting I am going to Route 66 Raceway this Saturday the 19th for some 1/4 mile testing. I will post time slips and video. I will be running with the Dymag wheels and 305 DOTR Corsas......since I don't have any drag wheels and tires yet? But they are coming....I hope!

otoupalik · 04-15-2008, 09:44 PM

lol - working it. Hopefully very soon.

Sorry man.

BoBcanada · 04-15-2008, 10:57 PM

What do you think needs to be done for C63 to unlock it to the normal 500-525 hp level? ECU+Intake + exhaust?

PatSC23 · 04-22-2008, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by otoupalik

Sorry for the delay guys and gals.

Yes, we will have them on the web site and can take orders for them now. Same process as your e46. Funny how many people do that now. Seemed simple to us but nobody had done it - now it seems there are 20+ vendors selling those! lol

Thanks
Brad

nice - Ill be ordering a set wen the time comes - ive ordered "simple" parts elsewhere, just doesnt seem to work out...

JonMBZ · 05-08-2008, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MANYCARS

I thought the Black Series are all sold out??? At least according to my dealer that is.

We have one at our dealer.

CynCarvin32 · 05-08-2008, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonMBZ

We have one at our dealer.

Look in netstar there are unsold cars all over the place. Its not the worlds most popular car and many have been returned to the dealership wit 1500 miles and traded for a less sporty car. Local store just took back one and a store 1 hr away just did the same thing.

Newzchspy · 05-13-2008, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CynCarvin32

Look in netstar there are unsold cars all over the place. Its not the worlds most popular car and many have been returned to the dealership wit 1500 miles and traded for a less sporty car. Local store just took back one and a store 1 hr away just did the same thing.

IN the USA, there's 116 and counting of CLK current Black Series. Rare, no, costly, yes. Just check autotrader.com

otoupalik · 05-13-2008, 05:26 PM

116 is pretty rare for a car in the US.

There were 125 reported M3 LTW's in 95, and now one just sold for more then list. There are a very limited number around 10 years later.

Even if it goes to 300 cars, that is still VERY limited for a US car, don't you think?

thanks
brad

Glock Guru · 05-26-2008, 01:26 AM

Any new updates on your 63-series engine development?

-Troy

xandi911 · 05-31-2008, 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoBcanada

What do you think needs to be done for C63 to unlock it to the normal 500-525 hp level? ECU+Intake + exhaust?

+1

WHAT WE CAN EXPECT WITH JUST ECU?? POWER GAINS....

otoupalik · 06-02-2008, 03:54 PM

Just ECU, you can expect very little on the dyno. You will see a gain on the street as the throttle maps are changed so the car will ramp into throttle faster, making the car accel faster when you do before and after tests at the same throttle position.

However, ECU alone is not a dyno mod, but a street gaining mod.

thanks
brad

pinnaclecustoms · 06-02-2008, 05:17 PM

So from what I am able to gather the main power gaining parts for all of the 63 series even the C class is the long tube headers and the x-pipe section. All exhaust...and a few drop in air filters....those are some of the prettiest headers I have ever seen......great work guys.

Chris

otoupalik · 06-02-2008, 05:21 PM

Thank you very much. They are going to be even prettier. That was the first set. We are not set-up for manufacturing.

Yes, you are partially right. It is the exhaust by a large part. However, the software is a critical part of the package.

Also, the drop-in filters are not right. We tested the leading 63-series fitlers and they lost power. The mods we do are physical modifications to the airbox.

thanks
Brad

a_Y · 06-13-2008, 12:23 AM

headers on left hand drive and right hand drive cars are different correct?

family in hk is getting the sl63 and im interested in getting mods for it especially after seeing the power gains you guys achieved with the long tube headers... but since the car is going to be right hand drive, there is no way we can make these fit right?

otoupalik · 06-13-2008, 12:32 AM

It will be different. We are trying to see what can be done, so don't lose faith yet.

thanks
brad

a_Y · 06-13-2008, 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by otoupalik

It will be different. We are trying to see what can be done, so don't lose faith yet.

thanks
brad

not going to lose faith! you guys havent failed to amaze me with these mb cars and the e60 m5!

but i am assuming the other components will be the same? i.e. the airbox mods, the x pipe, exhaust, etc?

otoupalik · 06-13-2008, 01:57 PM

You are too kind, thanks!

Yes, all the other mods should be perfect.

BTW, we had an SL63 test car for 2 days - nice transmission!

thanks
Brad

a_Y · 06-23-2008, 03:59 AM

Brad,

what are the main differences between right hand drive and left hand drive headers?

my family is finalizing on the order for the SL63 in Hong Kong and after reading all the posts about the 63 engines getting all the power from headers, exhaust, air filters/airbox, and ecu i cant stop thinking about getting these mods for the car. however the fact that the car is going to be right hand drive is really driving me crazy because i know the headers wont fit!

Khalyl357 · 06-29-2008, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by otoupalik

Some updates.

Exhaust:
- We did add our high performance resonators, the rasp and harshness is gone. it sounds amazing!

Dyno:
- We have finished the first night/round of tuning. Pretty happy with the results so far! +56 RWHP and +47 RWT for the header, exhaust and software (of course done with our tuning partner Powerchip)!

Here is a quick vid on the rollers:

Aero:
We have completed the front and the rear bits (with big thanks to our aero partner Vorsteiner who came through once again by accomplishing the impossible with far less time then reasonable) - we could make this for C-class with enough demand also:

* You can click on the images for more pics *

* You can click on the images for more pics *

The Carbon weave on the front and rear matches OE almost perfect. These are pre-clear coat, which is happening now. It is really hard to see the CF on the rear due to the lighting, but it is full CF.

More to come........

Thanks
Brad

Your car is so sick love it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

04-15-2008, 09:44 PM	#33
otoupalik Administrator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: SoCal Posts: 2,395 Drives: evosport's	lol - working it. Hopefully very soon. Sorry man. __________________

04-15-2008, 10:57 PM	#34
BoBcanada MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Toronto,ON Posts: 2,723 Drives: AMG	What do you think needs to be done for C63 to unlock it to the normal 500-525 hp level? ECU+Intake + exhaust? __________________ 2005 E55 sold but not forgotten! 2006 ML350 <---- Family suv, slow but very good!SOLD 2007 GSXR 1000 YELLOW 09 ML320 Bluetec? S550?C63?M5?

05-13-2008, 05:26 PM	#39
otoupalik Administrator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: SoCal Posts: 2,395 Drives: evosport's	116 is pretty rare for a car in the US. There were 125 reported M3 LTW's in 95, and now one just sold for more then list. There are a very limited number around 10 years later. Even if it goes to 300 cars, that is still VERY limited for a US car, don't you think? thanks brad __________________

05-26-2008, 01:26 AM	#40
Glock Guru Super Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Baton Rouge, La. Posts: 936 Drives: Steel Gray 09' C63 AMG	Any new updates on your 63-series engine development? -Troy __________________ 09' C63 AMG Steel Grey / Ash Gray Leather -Premium Package II -Performance Package -Leather Package -Multimedia Package -Ipod Integration -Black Maple Wood Trim -Weathertech mats -Escort 9500 CI -Proclip I-Phone Mount -K&N Filters -Carbon Filters Removed -Tinted corners "Anybody can kill anybody, even the President, remember" - (James Woods, "Best Seller" 1987)

06-02-2008, 03:54 PM	#42
otoupalik Administrator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: SoCal Posts: 2,395 Drives: evosport's	Just ECU, you can expect very little on the dyno. You will see a gain on the street as the throttle maps are changed so the car will ramp into throttle faster, making the car accel faster when you do before and after tests at the same throttle position. However, ECU alone is not a dyno mod, but a street gaining mod. thanks brad __________________

04-12-2008, 01:34 AM	#27
2MANYCARS MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Long Island & Hong Kong Posts: 1,253 Drives: C, E, S, ML, CLK, SLK, M's, STi, EVO, & GT-R.	I thought the Black Series are all sold out??? At least according to my dealer that is.

06-02-2008, 05:17 PM	#43
pinnaclecustoms Almost a Member! Join Date: May 2008 Location: Apex, NC Posts: 72 Drives: 2003 S600	So from what I am able to gather the main power gaining parts for all of the 63 series even the C class is the long tube headers and the x-pipe section. All exhaust...and a few drop in air filters....those are some of the prettiest headers I have ever seen......great work guys. Chris __________________ "I Want the Truth........You Can't Handle the Truth"

06-02-2008, 05:21 PM	#44
otoupalik Administrator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: SoCal Posts: 2,395 Drives: evosport's	Thank you very much. They are going to be even prettier. That was the first set. We are not set-up for manufacturing. Yes, you are partially right. It is the exhaust by a large part. However, the software is a critical part of the package. Also, the drop-in filters are not right. We tested the leading 63-series fitlers and they lost power. The mods we do are physical modifications to the airbox. thanks Brad __________________

06-13-2008, 12:23 AM	#45
a_Y Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 219 Drives: SL63 AMG, E46 M3, CL500	RHD cars headers on left hand drive and right hand drive cars are different correct? family in hk is getting the sl63 and im interested in getting mods for it especially after seeing the power gains you guys achieved with the long tube headers... but since the car is going to be right hand drive, there is no way we can make these fit right?

06-13-2008, 12:32 AM	#46
otoupalik Administrator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: SoCal Posts: 2,395 Drives: evosport's	It will be different. We are trying to see what can be done, so don't lose faith yet. thanks brad __________________

06-13-2008, 01:57 PM	#48
otoupalik Administrator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: SoCal Posts: 2,395 Drives: evosport's	You are too kind, thanks! Yes, all the other mods should be perfect. BTW, we had an SL63 test car for 2 days - nice transmission! thanks Brad __________________

06-23-2008, 03:59 AM	#49
a_Y Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 219 Drives: SL63 AMG, E46 M3, CL500	Brad, what are the main differences between right hand drive and left hand drive headers? my family is finalizing on the order for the SL63 in Hong Kong and after reading all the posts about the 63 engines getting all the power from headers, exhaust, air filters/airbox, and ecu i cant stop thinking about getting these mods for the car. however the fact that the car is going to be right hand drive is really driving me crazy because i know the headers wont fit!

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