AMG 6.3 high-flow airbox demystified - Page 4

lomita · 09-14-2009, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sincity

Someone please explain to me how a larger volume box will be a benefit since the tubing still retains the same crossection?

Just a hunch, a larger volume box acts like an accumulator chamber, helping to smooth out fluctuations of air flow, promoting better dynamics of air flow to the TB....

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musk · 09-17-2009, 11:37 AM

Renntech CF air box

Sincity · 09-17-2009, 12:23 PM

I would have to agree the Renntech is the best out there with the redesigned runners. But pricing is a big ouch.

Vadim @ FD · 09-17-2009, 12:37 PM

Looks like RennTech removes or relocates MAFs on their airbox.

peet · 11-03-2009, 06:23 PM

So what is the final verdict on these? Are the ROW versions good to go? Found a supplier online that has them for 134 euro each. But not sure what is really needed as this thread never really got closure. Would one of you please re-sum it up for dimwits like me?

TIA!

Sincity · 11-03-2009, 09:36 PM

The ROW boxes are higher flowing than the ones we have. KLEEMANN K3 kit also includes the ROW boxes.

peet · 11-04-2009, 12:33 PM

Thanks sincity - let me restate thoug...

which of all the part numbers in this thread are the real deal? (ROW) and which are truly needed. I recall one thread having four part numbers for this - were they AFM/box for each of left and right or was it something else? I want to make sure I order the right thing as the sites that have this stuff are not in English and without diagrams.

Better still - did anyone confirm that the ROW C box is identical to US E box so I can just pop in at the local dealership and get the E parts?

TIA!

Sincity · 11-04-2009, 12:50 PM

Peet,

Here are the P/Ns (see post #34):

LT side A1560940306 $314
RT side A1560940406 $314

I confirmed with my parts guy that they can be ordered. They are a direct replacement. Ask member, Lomita, about his thoughts. He has them. It is too bad no one is willing to step up and make the air funnels so we can fit them into our boxes. The reason why they cost so much is because they also include new MAF sensors.

The E box tops are the same as our C box tops. As a matter of fact, all North America 63 series box tops are identical.

peet · 11-04-2009, 02:30 PM

I appreciate your help in clearing it up! Thanks tons!

Sincity · 11-04-2009, 03:55 PM

Did I mention that I wished someone would step up and make a replica Renntech airbox? That is one box that looks like it would perform.

peet · 11-04-2009, 06:57 PM

Hand me a vacuum frame, autoclave and some time and you can have the first one

Til then - here's what I found:

Item Individual price Quantity including tax without tax

Mercedes-Benz FILTERDECKEL (A1560940306 )
158,47 EUR 158,47 EUR 133,17 EUR

Mercedes-Benz FILTERDECKEL (A1560940406 )
158,47 EUR 158,47 EUR 133,17 EUR

at

http://shop.auto-bendig.de

Sincity · 11-04-2009, 07:15 PM

How much is that in USD? KLEEMANN is charging $500 for the pair if you buy K3. Perhaps they will sell the pair without K3? I know Evosport sells them.

silverlb · 11-04-2009, 09:06 PM

Would be great if Kleemann could sell just the airbox for a fair price.

Brian GT PRO · 11-11-2009, 07:00 PM

Has anyone actually tested the ROW boxes to see if there is any REAL gains???

Sincity · 11-12-2009, 01:51 AM

Brian: if there are, could your plastics guy recreate the internal air funnels to be retrofitted in the NA boxes?

09-17-2009, 11:37 AM	#77
musk Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Taipei Posts: 41 Drives: C63	Renntech CF air box __________________ Last edited by musk; 09-17-2009 at 11:41 AM.

09-17-2009, 12:23 PM	#78
Sincity MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Vegas, baby! Posts: 2,249 Drives: '86 190e restoration project, '08 Acura RDX, '09 C63 AMG	I would have to agree the Renntech is the best out there with the redesigned runners. But pricing is a big ouch. __________________ "Unofficial Member" of the Vancouver Benz crew. '09 C63 KLEEMANN MS-11S & K1. Charcoal delete w/K&Ns. SMERC upper strut bar.

09-17-2009, 12:37 PM	#79
Vadim @ FD SPONSOR Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 2,854 Drives: S600TT, R350	Looks like RennTech removes or relocates MAFs on their airbox. __________________

11-03-2009, 06:23 PM	#80
peet MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chicagoland, IL Posts: 1,092 Drives: 09 C63	So what is the final verdict on these? Are the ROW versions good to go? Found a supplier online that has them for 134 euro each. But not sure what is really needed as this thread never really got closure. Would one of you please re-sum it up for dimwits like me? TIA! __________________ 2009 C63 2007 BMW M Coupe (sold) 2007 Audi S4 (sold) 2003 C230K sedan (sold) 2003 C230K coupe (sold) ... confused wife and neighbors, priceless.

11-03-2009, 09:36 PM	#81
Sincity MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Vegas, baby! Posts: 2,249 Drives: '86 190e restoration project, '08 Acura RDX, '09 C63 AMG	The ROW boxes are higher flowing than the ones we have. KLEEMANN K3 kit also includes the ROW boxes. __________________ "Unofficial Member" of the Vancouver Benz crew. '09 C63 KLEEMANN MS-11S & K1. Charcoal delete w/K&Ns. SMERC upper strut bar.

11-04-2009, 12:33 PM	#82
peet MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chicagoland, IL Posts: 1,092 Drives: 09 C63	Thanks sincity - let me restate thoug... which of all the part numbers in this thread are the real deal? (ROW) and which are truly needed. I recall one thread having four part numbers for this - were they AFM/box for each of left and right or was it something else? I want to make sure I order the right thing as the sites that have this stuff are not in English and without diagrams. Better still - did anyone confirm that the ROW C box is identical to US E box so I can just pop in at the local dealership and get the E parts? TIA! __________________ 2009 C63 2007 BMW M Coupe (sold) 2007 Audi S4 (sold) 2003 C230K sedan (sold) 2003 C230K coupe (sold) ... confused wife and neighbors, priceless.

11-04-2009, 12:50 PM	#83
Sincity MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Vegas, baby! Posts: 2,249 Drives: '86 190e restoration project, '08 Acura RDX, '09 C63 AMG	Peet, Here are the P/Ns (see post #34): LT side A1560940306 $314 RT side A1560940406 $314 I confirmed with my parts guy that they can be ordered. They are a direct replacement. Ask member, Lomita, about his thoughts. He has them. It is too bad no one is willing to step up and make the air funnels so we can fit them into our boxes. The reason why they cost so much is because they also include new MAF sensors. The E box tops are the same as our C box tops. As a matter of fact, all North America 63 series box tops are identical. __________________ "Unofficial Member" of the Vancouver Benz crew. '09 C63 KLEEMANN MS-11S & K1. Charcoal delete w/K&Ns. SMERC upper strut bar.

11-04-2009, 02:30 PM	#84
peet MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chicagoland, IL Posts: 1,092 Drives: 09 C63	I appreciate your help in clearing it up! Thanks tons! __________________ 2009 C63 2007 BMW M Coupe (sold) 2007 Audi S4 (sold) 2003 C230K sedan (sold) 2003 C230K coupe (sold) ... confused wife and neighbors, priceless.

11-04-2009, 03:55 PM	#85
Sincity MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Vegas, baby! Posts: 2,249 Drives: '86 190e restoration project, '08 Acura RDX, '09 C63 AMG	Did I mention that I wished someone would step up and make a replica Renntech airbox? That is one box that looks like it would perform. __________________ "Unofficial Member" of the Vancouver Benz crew. '09 C63 KLEEMANN MS-11S & K1. Charcoal delete w/K&Ns. SMERC upper strut bar. Last edited by Sincity; 11-04-2009 at 07:16 PM.

11-04-2009, 06:57 PM	#86
peet MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chicagoland, IL Posts: 1,092 Drives: 09 C63	Hand me a vacuum frame, autoclave and some time and you can have the first one Til then - here's what I found: Item Individual price Quantity including tax without tax Mercedes-Benz FILTERDECKEL (A1560940306 ) 158,47 EUR 158,47 EUR 133,17 EUR Mercedes-Benz FILTERDECKEL (A1560940406 ) 158,47 EUR 158,47 EUR 133,17 EUR at http://shop.auto-bendig.de __________________ 2009 C63 2007 BMW M Coupe (sold) 2007 Audi S4 (sold) 2003 C230K sedan (sold) 2003 C230K coupe (sold) ... confused wife and neighbors, priceless.

11-04-2009, 07:15 PM	#87
Sincity MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Vegas, baby! Posts: 2,249 Drives: '86 190e restoration project, '08 Acura RDX, '09 C63 AMG	How much is that in USD? KLEEMANN is charging $500 for the pair if you buy K3. Perhaps they will sell the pair without K3? I know Evosport sells them. __________________ "Unofficial Member" of the Vancouver Benz crew. '09 C63 KLEEMANN MS-11S & K1. Charcoal delete w/K&Ns. SMERC upper strut bar.

11-04-2009, 09:06 PM	#88
silverlb Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 17 Drives: C63	Would be great if Kleemann could sell just the airbox for a fair price.

11-11-2009, 07:00 PM	#89
Brian GT PRO SPONSOR Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: On GT PRO's dyno in sunny Fullerton CA Posts: 234 Drives: C63 AMG Arctic w/ GT PRO "Double XX" pipes, 335i Coupe 360 Modena (sold) 1000rwhp MKIV Supra, GT-R	Has anyone actually tested the ROW boxes to see if there is any REAL gains??? __________________ Exclusive Orange County Authorized WWW.GTPRO.COM WWW.AMGPOWERED.COM coming soon AMG parts, services, flash tuning, suspension and more! Advance One wheels, MB Arts footwork parts, KW Suspension, Arqray, ASI, GT PRO Stars, Fabulous, Singh Auto

11-12-2009, 01:51 AM	#90
Sincity MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Vegas, baby! Posts: 2,249 Drives: '86 190e restoration project, '08 Acura RDX, '09 C63 AMG	Brian: if there are, could your plastics guy recreate the internal air funnels to be retrofitted in the NA boxes? __________________ "Unofficial Member" of the Vancouver Benz crew. '09 C63 KLEEMANN MS-11S & K1. Charcoal delete w/K&Ns. SMERC upper strut bar.

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