Twin Turbo for the C63?

white_beast · 09-15-2009, 10:27 PM

Guys do u think any1 would come up with a twin tubo kit for the C63? even if they make em run on as low as 9psi im sure we have very good strong internals!!!

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Sincity · 09-15-2009, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by white_beast

Guys do u think any1 would come up with a twin tubo kit for the C63? even if they make em run on as low as 9psi im sure we have very good strong internals!!!

I don't think there is room to even fit a small K03.

E55AMGFan · 09-15-2009, 11:21 PM

If anything it would have to be something like Kleemann's all in one charger, that includes the SC, intercooler and intake mani that goes right over the block. Either that or perhaps a custom rear mount setup before the mufflers.

Jeffield · 09-16-2009, 12:14 AM

Someone I heard, ( wont get in who and what ever keep it a secret ) is planning to TT a C63, in some sort of way ( i dont know how and what ) but they are going to try it for a shop car...

MB_Forever · 09-16-2009, 01:25 AM

It has been attempted before at least twice.....

1) Kleemann built a twin turbo ML63 for someone in Dubai that made over 800 hp

but decided not to make the package available to the public probably because of cost and maybe reliability/liability issues in the U.S. Also, as mentioned earlier, the ML has enough room to fit the turbos while the C63 does not.

2) Brabus currently offers a "mild" bi-turbo kit that increases power to 650 hp (at the crank) but they require the car at their head quarters to be there for the upgrade.

Merc63 · 09-16-2009, 04:32 AM

Im sure you could do a rear turbo upgrade. I have seen it done on some vettes... Wouldn't be cheap. Not sure if the tranny would handle all the power.

bigwheeler · 09-16-2009, 07:57 AM

I heard the C63 TT was cancelled. It'll only be available for E-Class and above.

Dads C63 · 09-16-2009, 08:48 AM

The physical set up would not be difficult for a low boost twin turbo set up. The tuning would be the impossible feat. If not impossible, not practical from an expense stand point.

white_beast · 09-17-2009, 09:10 AM

it would be a gr8 setup even on low boost with the turbos mounted on the back right b4 the cat-back, just like the one done to the ISF!!

Brian GT PRO · 09-17-2009, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by white_beast

it would be a gr8 setup even on low boost with the turbos mounted on the back right b4 the cat-back, just like the one done to the ISF!!

Please contact me, I might be able to assist.

Boost Gomez · 09-17-2009, 06:36 PM

Rear mount setup won't do. Leave that to the domestic cars. I would like to see someone offer a good FI kit for this car though.

MikeS54 · 09-17-2009, 07:39 PM

FI kit and a powerdome hood would be pretty sick

and i am sure with minimal boost few PSI this car will be making 600whp+

GLK4MATIC · 09-17-2009, 09:40 PM

An STS style rear mount setup would work if you can get a shop to tune it. Over on myMBonline there is a member that goes by the name "Max Hughes" who is very knowledgeable in the rear mount setups. He will answer any questions you have as well as tell you where to buy the parts needed for your application.

nrgy · 10-24-2009, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffield

Someone I heard, ( wont get in who and what ever keep it a secret ) is planning to TT a C63, in some sort of way ( i dont know how and what ) but they are going to try it for a shop car...

Is it a local shop you speak of? If so, I heard they are thinking about doing a supercharger setup and not a TT? TT or S/C, I really hope someone can come up with something that looks well thought out, clean, and oem looking. Between the M3, IS-F, and C63, I really thought the C63 would be the first to have F/I. But now the M3 has 6+ S/C kits, at least one known TT for the IS-F, and zilch for the C63

GMW · 10-24-2009, 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MB_Forever

It has been attempted before at least twice.....

1) Kleemann built a twin turbo ML63 for someone in Dubai that made over 800 hp

but decided not to make the package available to the public probably because of cost and maybe reliability/liability issues in the U.S. Also, as mentioned earlier, the ML has enough room to fit the turbos while the C63 does not.

2) Brabus currently offers a "mild" bi-turbo kit that increases power to 650 hp (at the crank) but they require the car at their head quarters to be there for the upgrade.

A Brabus rep at the Frankfurt Motors Show told me their TT setup won't fit in the C63.

johnj43 · 10-24-2009, 09:33 AM

The latest rumor as read on Worldcarfans, Autoweek, AutoBild etc..is that MB (AMG) is planning a TT for the C/E series using a 4.3L engine in various stages of tune-much like HP/PS numbers today but with better fuel economy. Would be easier to "tune".

JohnJ
SA Texas
09 C63+PP+H&R(-15mm)
06 GTI-DD-Many mods.

Jeffield · 10-24-2009, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by nrgy

Is it a local shop you speak of? If so, I heard they are thinking about doing a supercharger setup and not a TT? TT or S/C, I really hope someone can come up with something that looks well thought out, clean, and oem looking. Between the M3, IS-F, and C63, I really thought the C63 would be the first to have F/I. But now the M3 has 6+ S/C kits, at least one known TT for the IS-F, and zilch for the C63

Yeah, thocal store is trying to develop a S/C kit for the C63... Its going to be amazing.

ZAHANMA · 10-24-2009, 04:11 PM

If you could make the space work (rear mount, or other...) I think the biggest hassle you would run into is getting a car not designed for boost to hand the boost...from an ECU standpoint...

That, to me, seems like the next biggest issue other than space.

MikeS54 · 10-24-2009, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nrgy

Is it a local shop you speak of? If so, I heard they are thinking about doing a supercharger setup and not a TT? TT or S/C, I really hope someone can come up with something that looks well thought out, clean, and oem looking. Between the M3, IS-F, and C63, I really thought the C63 would be the first to have F/I. But now the M3 has 6+ S/C kits, at least one known TT for the IS-F, and zilch for the C63

seriously though if anyone wants a supercharged fast four seater you might as well buy the GTR.

Its gonna be faster than a supercharged m3 and much much more realiable as well.

mr-flyer · 10-24-2009, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MB_Forever

It has been attempted before at least twice.....

1) Kleemann built a twin turbo ML63 for someone in Dubai that made over 800 hp

but decided not to make the package available to the public probably because of cost and maybe reliability/liability issues in the U.S. Also, as mentioned earlier, the ML has enough room to fit the turbos while the C63 does not.

2) Brabus currently offers a "mild" bi-turbo kit that increases power to 650 hp (at the crank) but they require the car at their head quarters to be there for the upgrade.

i've actually been to the kleemann workshop in Dubai and talked to the mechanic there.. that ML biturbo was a one off and wasn't really that reliable.. even for the ML space was pretty tight and the turbos are actually rubbing against body work.. you can only guess what happens when you get road vibrations and a rough road...

would still love to see it on a C63 though...

hhughes1 · 10-25-2009, 08:08 PM

Why can"t we get these? 650 rwhp!

nrgy · 11-03-2009, 01:12 AM

^

So anyone in the Midwest/Chicago area want a supercharged C63? Sounds like Eurocharged is interested in taking on the project if they can find a local willing participant

http://www.mbworld.org/forums/3790425-post33.html

09-16-2009, 12:14 AM	#4
Jeffield MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Some where with all Asians. Posts: 1,063 Drives: Some sort of W204 AMG	Someone I heard, ( wont get in who and what ever keep it a secret ) is planning to TT a C63, in some sort of way ( i dont know how and what ) but they are going to try it for a shop car... __________________ The Cops be Hatin'

09-16-2009, 01:25 AM	#5
MB_Forever MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: California, USA Posts: 6,354 Drives: E63 P30, CL500 Sport	It has been attempted before at least twice..... 1) Kleemann built a twin turbo ML63 for someone in Dubai that made over 800 hp but decided not to make the package available to the public probably because of cost and maybe reliability/liability issues in the U.S. Also, as mentioned earlier, the ML has enough room to fit the turbos while the C63 does not. 2) Brabus currently offers a "mild" bi-turbo kit that increases power to 650 hp (at the crank) but they require the car at their head quarters to be there for the upgrade. __________________ 2007 E63 w/P30 ---> 12.12 @ 118.54 (99.99% STOCK - Seeking 12.0x @ 119 mph)

09-16-2009, 07:57 AM	#7
bigwheeler Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Seoul, Korea Posts: 77 Drives: '10 E 220 CDI Avantgarde, '93 Kia Concord 1.8 GXi	I heard the C63 TT was cancelled. It'll only be available for E-Class and above. __________________

09-16-2009, 08:48 AM	#8
Dads C63 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Central Florida Posts: 460 Drives: 2009 C63	The physical set up would not be difficult for a low boost twin turbo set up. The tuning would be the impossible feat. If not impossible, not practical from an expense stand point. __________________ Owner/part time driver of a 2009 C63 - Complete MHP Package. Mile TopGunRun in Miami March 14th 2010 - 180.73mph V-Box verified.

09-17-2009, 06:36 PM	#11
Boost Gomez Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Miami Posts: 135 Drives: C63 AMG	Rear mount setup won't do. Leave that to the domestic cars. I would like to see someone offer a good FI kit for this car though. __________________

09-15-2009, 11:21 PM	#3
E55AMGFan Super Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 566 Drives: ES300/LX470/240SX	If anything it would have to be something like Kleemann's all in one charger, that includes the SC, intercooler and intake mani that goes right over the block. Either that or perhaps a custom rear mount setup before the mufflers.

09-16-2009, 04:32 AM	#6
Merc63 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 438 Drives: C63 AMG, Escalade EXT.	Im sure you could do a rear turbo upgrade. I have seen it done on some vettes... Wouldn't be cheap. Not sure if the tranny would handle all the power.

09-17-2009, 09:10 AM	#9
white_beast Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Kingdom Of Bahrain Posts: 77 Drives: C63 AMG	it would be a gr8 setup even on low boost with the turbos mounted on the back right b4 the cat-back, just like the one done to the ISF!!

09-17-2009, 07:39 PM	#12
MikeS54 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Richmond BC Canada Posts: 367 Drives: C63 AMG	FI kit and a powerdome hood would be pretty sick and i am sure with minimal boost few PSI this car will be making 600whp+ __________________ 07 E92 328i (SOLD) 07 Z4M Roadster (SOLD) 09 STI (SOLD) 09 C63

09-17-2009, 09:40 PM	#13
GLK4MATIC Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gilroy Posts: 292 Drives: GLK 4matic Silver \| MB Arts strut tower brace \| MB Arts rear seat brace \| K&N's \|Res/Sec. cat delete	An STS style rear mount setup would work if you can get a shop to tune it. Over on myMBonline there is a member that goes by the name "Max Hughes" who is very knowledgeable in the rear mount setups. He will answer any questions you have as well as tell you where to buy the parts needed for your application.

10-24-2009, 09:33 AM	#16
johnj43 Newbie Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 10 Drives: 2009 C63 AMG	The latest rumor as read on Worldcarfans, Autoweek, AutoBild etc..is that MB (AMG) is planning a TT for the C/E series using a 4.3L engine in various stages of tune-much like HP/PS numbers today but with better fuel economy. Would be easier to "tune". JohnJ SA Texas 09 C63+PP+H&R(-15mm) 06 GTI-DD-Many mods.

10-24-2009, 04:11 PM	#18
ZAHANMA Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Houston in my blood, New Jersey under the tires. Posts: 228 Drives: '05 Crossfire SRT-6	If you could make the space work (rear mount, or other...) I think the biggest hassle you would run into is getting a car not designed for boost to hand the boost...from an ECU standpoint... That, to me, seems like the next biggest issue other than space. __________________ -Matt *2005 Chrysler Crossfire SRT6* *powered by Eurocharged Performance Inc.* "You can pay for school, but you can't buy class"

10-25-2009, 08:08 PM	#21
hhughes1 Super Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central Florida Posts: 633 Drives: 2009 C63 Red w/ Sahara Beige	Why can"t we get these? 650 rwhp! __________________ __________________________________________________ ________________________________________ Life throws lots of curves...good thing there is an apex in every one of them! 2009 C63 Mars Red M H P Long Tubes & Kleemann Tune(11.590 @ 121.94) 2010 GLK63(JK) Mars Red (of course) 2008 HD Screamin Eagle Springer (not Mars Red) Specialized Tarmac SL(all cf and exotic alloys!)

11-03-2009, 01:12 AM	#22
nrgy Super Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Pacific NW Posts: 631 Drives: C63, A4	^ So anyone in the Midwest/Chicago area want a supercharged C63? Sounds like Eurocharged is interested in taking on the project if they can find a local willing participant http://www.mbworld.org/forums/3790425-post33.html __________________ C63 V1 3.864, 19" Multi Spokes, 35% F1 Tint, KW V3 Coilovers, Front Strut Brace, Carbonio CF Airbox MHP V3 ECU/TCU, MHP Long Tube Headers, Mids and High Flow Primaries

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