KLEEMANN K3 for C63 is here!!!

Cory @ Kleemann · 10-12-2009, 06:20 PM

The long-anticipated KLEEMANN K3 for the 6.3L AMG cars has arrived! This kit consists of larger (80mm) throttles, a CNC machined, contoured and flowed throttle "plate", as well as CNC milled inlet throats. This is a true bolt-on, plug and play installation- no modification to existing OE equipment is required. We also include european spec air-box tops with integrated MAF elements. Power gains on a K2 63 AMG are between 25 and 30 crank HP. The K3 kits are in stock, ready to ship. K3 price is set at $4500.00. If you already have a Carbon air box, or some other type of euro-spec box, the K3 kit will be sold sans the air boxes for $4000.00. Installation time is 3-6 hours, depending on your technician. The throttle are located on the bottom of the inlet manifold, so it must be removed for the installation. New inlet manifold gaskets are included.

I often times have difficulty finding the time to answer PM's, so please EMAIL me for more info: cory@kleemannusa.com. I'll do my best to answer PM's and questions, but for the fastest response please just shoot me an email. Thanks!!

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NORTH 44 C55 · 10-12-2009, 07:23 PM

Excellent work as always Cory.

UGOTMOPPED · 10-12-2009, 07:34 PM

Wow...Cory - now I might have to get this too..stop the madness!!

--Jason

Brian GT PRO · 10-12-2009, 07:39 PM

Very nice, I look forward to this!!

MB_Forever · 10-12-2009, 07:51 PM

Great work....

MACHC5 · 10-12-2009, 11:32 PM

Wow..!
The rumors were true...

Sincity · 10-12-2009, 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian GT PRO

Very nice, I look forward to this!!

Brian, can the guy who is making your SL grill make copies of the Euro spec box top inlet funnels? This way you do not need to buy new AMG box tops for K3. Have you ever seen my air box thread?

LP560-4 · 10-13-2009, 03:17 AM

Just K3 for 4500? So that throttle is what the 4500 is for?

silverlb · 10-13-2009, 06:49 AM

Can you go over pricing for K2 and K3 again?
I am assuming that K3 does not include the exhaust manifolds, does it included the ECU flash?
Can you get a package that will include all available mods?

Cory @ Kleemann · 10-13-2009, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LP560-4

Just K3 for 4500? So that throttle is what the 4500 is for?

Yes, the throttle kit is $4500.00 with air boxes, $4000 without the boxes.

Here's a break down of packages, as well as individual pricing:

K1: ECU programming: $1495.00
K2: ECU programming, high flow manifolds, down pipes and cats: $3990.00
K3: ECU, Manifolds/down pipes/cats, and dual 80mm throttle: $8490.00

Individual pricing:
ECU: $1495.00
Manifolds/down pipes/cats: $2495.00
Dual 80mm throttle: $4500.00 w/air box, $4000 w/o air box

2K6E55 · 10-13-2009, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cory @ Kleemann

Yes, the throttle kit is $4500.00 with air boxes, $4000 without the boxes.

Here's a break down of packages, as well as individual pricing:

K1: ECU programming: $1495.00
K2: ECU programming, high flow manifolds, down pipes and cats: $3990.00
K3: ECU, Manifolds/down pipes/cats, and dual 80mm throttle: $8490.00

Individual pricing:
ECU: $1495.00
Manifolds/down pipes/cats: $2495.00
Dual 80mm throttle: $4500.00 w/air box, $4000 w/o air box

Thanks for the break down in cost of each package. Can you also list the HP gain individually? TIA Cory.

James@ACGSD · 10-13-2009, 04:49 PM

We will be installing these early next week!

MB_Forever · 10-13-2009, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James@ACGSD

We will be installing these early next week!

James, if you can, please try to dyno before and after the TB installation especially if it'll be on Rick's car so that we can get an idea of the gains on a highly modded car.

James@ACGSD · 10-13-2009, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MB_Forever

James, if you can, please try to dyno before and after the TB installation especially if it'll be on Rick's car so that we can get an idea of the gains on a highly modded car.

On ricks car? Why would you even think that these are going on ricks car?

But yes a pre and post will be done.

Jae Duk · 10-13-2009, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James@ACGSD

We will be installing these early next week!

Can't wait for the results

MRAMG1 · 10-13-2009, 05:59 PM

Yes, I will be waiting too

The throttle bodies are already VERY large for a 6.2 liter motor that doesn't see over 7000rpm. Can't wait

PS: NO other changes just throttle bodies yes

If a tune change occurs, just list if you change the timing or A/F please

avengerboater · 10-13-2009, 06:30 PM

Call me a novice to the MB tuning world, but shouldn't an ECU tune of a stock c63 be different from the ECU tune of a C63 with high-flow manifolds, downpipes, and cats? And shouldn't that ECU tune be even slightly more different for a C63 with a bigger TB? I thought the whole point of an ECU tune was to tune the said vehicle by taking into account what that vehicle is equipped with? It's perfectly sensible to create an off-the-shelf map for stock cars because all of their parameters are the same. But when you're using the same map for a stock C63 vs. a more or even heavily modified C63, what's the point of a "tune" because the increased performance of the bolt-on's wouldn't be maximized by running a map for a "stock" C63?

Does Kleemann reconfigure it's map with each additional stage, i.e. stage 1 vs. stage 2 vs. stage 3? Or do they just keep the map the same and add on bolt-on's?

James@ACGSD · 10-13-2009, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by avengerboater

Call me a novice to the MB tuning world, but shouldn't an ECU tune of a stock c63 be different from the ECU tune of a C63 with high-flow manifolds, downpipes, and cats? And shouldn't that ECU tune be even slightly more different for a C63 with a bigger TB? I thought the whole point of an ECU tune was to tune the said vehicle by taking into account what that vehicle is equipped with? It's perfectly sensible to create an off-the-shelf map for stock cars because all of their parameters are the same. But when you're using the same map for a stock C63 vs. a more or even heavily modified C63, what's the point of a "tune" because the increased performance of the bolt-on's wouldn't be maximized by running a map for a "stock" C63?

Does Kleemann reconfigure it's map with each additional stage, i.e. stage 1 vs. stage 2 vs. stage 3? Or do they just keep the map the same and add on bolt-on's?

Yes Kleemann provides a new tune for each stage. When a vehicle has k1 and upgrades to k2, a new tune is installed.

jangy · 10-14-2009, 01:23 AM

Very interesting.....

Even Money · 10-14-2009, 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cory @ Kleemann

Yes, the throttle kit is $4500.00 with air boxes, $4000 without the boxes.

I like Kleeman, but 4 Gs for TBs is going to be hard to justify. I'd think you would need some serious HP/torque gains to justify that price.

jangy · 10-14-2009, 03:35 AM

If they give about 20hp to the wheels of a highly modded car,, they are in the ballpark. 2 80mm TBs costs about $2K in the E55k world...

Sincity · 10-14-2009, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James@ACGSD

Yes Kleemann provides a new tune for each stage. When a vehicle has k1 and upgrades to k2, a new tune is installed.

Cory didn't mention in his intial post if a tune is required. He simply said, "bolt-on, plug and play, and no mod to existing OE eqpt." Does the ECU simply adapt or do you also need K1 & K2?

MJ50 · 10-14-2009, 01:42 PM

good stuff!

nrgy · 10-15-2009, 12:33 AM

I too am interested to know if this requires an updated ECU tune? For those of us who are not running K2 but perhaps Renntech, MKB, or in my case MHP, how compatible would it be to put on these larger TBs with any one of these setups?

I would be very interested to see some dyno graphs as well. If this mod gives a true 20 rwhp then that would be a nice bump in power. $4k is a little tough to swallow though, and closer to $5k after labor. After tune and headers, I see it's going to take serious $$$ now to extract even more hp.

Any chance of any introductory price?

jangy · 10-15-2009, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by nrgy

I too am interested to know if this requires an updated ECU tune? For those of us who are not running K2 but perhaps Renntech, MKB, or in my case MHP, how compatible would it be to put on these larger TBs with any one of these setups?

My guess would be that you would want a tune with the upgrade. If not, the car would run out of gas and that is not good.

I am curious to see the gains and see if they are the same as on the 55k motors. I am also curious to see how the MHPs and such react to it. I do not know how the pricing works, but my guess would be that any special pricing would require you to swap to a Kleeman tune. I am sure that the tuners do not add to eachother's files. You may also be able to get MHP to dyno tune it?

10-12-2009, 07:23 PM	#2
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LP560-4 Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 81 Drives: c63	Just K3 for 4500? So that throttle is what the 4500 is for?

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silverlb Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 17 Drives: C63	Can you go over pricing for K2 and K3 again? I am assuming that K3 does not include the exhaust manifolds, does it included the ECU flash? Can you get a package that will include all available mods?

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MRAMG1 MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: PA Posts: 1,637 Drives: 2004 S600	Yes, I will be waiting too The throttle bodies are already VERY large for a 6.2 liter motor that doesn't see over 7000rpm. Can't wait PS: NO other changes just throttle bodies yes If a tune change occurs, just list if you change the timing or A/F please

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avengerboater Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 36 Drives: C63 AMG	Call me a novice to the MB tuning world, but shouldn't an ECU tune of a stock c63 be different from the ECU tune of a C63 with high-flow manifolds, downpipes, and cats? And shouldn't that ECU tune be even slightly more different for a C63 with a bigger TB? I thought the whole point of an ECU tune was to *tune* the said vehicle by taking into account what that vehicle is equipped with? It's perfectly sensible to create an off-the-shelf map for stock cars because all of their parameters are the same. But when you're using the same map for a stock C63 vs. a more or even heavily modified C63, what's the point of a "tune" because the increased performance of the bolt-on's wouldn't be maximized by running a map for a "stock" C63? Does Kleemann reconfigure it's map with each additional stage, i.e. stage 1 vs. stage 2 vs. stage 3? Or do they just keep the map the same and add on bolt-on's?

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jangy Out Of Control!! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 13,061 Drives: C350	If they give about 20hp to the wheels of a highly modded car,, they are in the ballpark. 2 80mm TBs costs about $2K in the E55k world... __________________ SDCrew

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nrgy Super Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Pacific NW Posts: 509 Drives: C63, A4	I too am interested to know if this requires an updated ECU tune? For those of us who are not running K2 but perhaps Renntech, MKB, or in my case MHP, how compatible would it be to put on these larger TBs with any one of these setups? I would be very interested to see some dyno graphs as well. If this mod gives a true 20 rwhp then that would be a nice bump in power. $4k is a little tough to swallow though, and closer to $5k after labor. After tune and headers, I see it's going to take serious $$$ now to extract even more hp. Any chance of any introductory price? __________________ C63 V1 3.864, 19" Multi Spokes, 35% F1 Tint, KW V3 Coilovers, Front Strut Brace, Carbon Fiber Airbox, MHP V3 ECU/TCU, Long Tube Headers, Mids and High Flow Cats

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