My Stock E55 vs Mthis Modded C63 - Page 6

mthis · 11-04-2009, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dads C63

Murtaza - You have the same issues with gearing that we do. When you start at 60 you are at the extreme low end of your power band. Have you tried starting in the next lower gear and allowing it to run through the shift? Then, if you can get some taller tires and stay in whatever gear you are in until 130 you will have some great 60-130 times. Your car is very fast and 8,000rpm's is nuts!!! WOW, now I can see why Josh's car has issues keeping up. Maybe we need to make some 70-170 runs and that might be better for both of us with respect to gearing and power band.

+1 on the 70-170 runs BUT I don't think the m6 would hang after 150. M6 530Hp the most. silver dragon 470 to wheel is 573hp. The weight is about 100 lighter in the c63 and horsepower comes into play at does speeds. If the race happens make a vid would love to see that.

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Murtaza · 11-04-2009, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dads C63

Murtaza - You have the same issues with gearing that we do. When you start at 60 you are at the extreme low end of your power band. Have you tried starting in the next lower gear and allowing it to run through the shift? Then, if you can get some taller tires and stay in whatever gear you are in until 130 you will have some great 60-130 times. Your car is very fast and 8,000rpm's is nuts!!! WOW, now I can see why Josh's car has issues keeping up. Maybe we need to make some 70-170 runs and that might be better for both of us with respect to gearing and power band.

Totally, if I start in 2nd gear I'm buzzing around 7k rpm and have to shift almost immediately. From what I read most M5/M6 guys do 60-130 in 3rd. They seem about the same. Whats worse is 4th to 5th is at 128mph...right before 130.

Dads C63 · 11-04-2009, 05:49 PM

MURTAZA:
Our gearing must be identical but I just solved that 4-5 gear problem with taller tires. HEHEHEHEHE!

Murtaza · 11-04-2009, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mthis

+1 on the 70-170 runs BUT I don't think the m6 would hang after 150. M6 530Hp the most. silver dragon 470 to wheel is 573hp. The weight is about 100 lighter in the c63 and horsepower comes into play at does speeds. If the race happens make a vid would love to see that.

At high triple digits speeds parasitic loss through your automatic tranny will come into play. Another very important value is the over all drag (not just the CD).

The SMG III also has 7 forward gears, no overdrive gear so it's all for speed... it's why stock M5/M6's hit 200 stock.

DLSJ5 · 11-05-2009, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Dads C63

http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/9...-list-168.html

Well guys, its official and all posted up. Don't underestimate the power of the "little C".

60-130 is 9.37!! Not bad for a four door.

Good job!

DLSJ5 · 11-05-2009, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Murtaza

Sick times! I don't see how I can beat a 9.6 so based off your 60-130 you definitely have the faster car. As for Josh... :dunno:

I also took a video of my 60-130, not that it can be counted as accurate...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6qxxuLj7eY

That speedo is moving Alex, time to gut the cats!

Brisk335 · 11-05-2009, 11:24 AM

^^ wow insane times, congrats.

Dads C63 · 11-06-2009, 10:35 AM

Put the taller tires on to eliminate the 4th-5th shift along with being cooler weather and we ran 8.88 60-130. YEEHAW!! Are we having fun yet?

Not bad for a four door all motor car.

Sent Steve the files to post on 6speedonline.com

PS: Made a one mile run again with the vbox and registered 176mph. Not bad for Florida weather runs!!

Boost Gomez · 11-06-2009, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dads C63

Put the taller tires on to eliminate the 4th-5th shift along with being cooler weather and we ran 8.88 60-130. YEEHAW!! Are we having fun yet?

Not bad for a four door all motor car.

Sent Steve the files to post on 6speedonline.com

PS: Made a one mile run again with the vbox and registered 176mph. Not bad for Florida weather runs!!

Great runs! Your updates keep inching me toward MHP over the other tuning packages.

Sincity · 11-06-2009, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by nrgy

Kleeman headers are far from headers. They are basically high flowing manifolds, which imo do nothing. I think the gains from the K2 are coming from the high flow cats more than anything.

I haven't visited this thread since page 2. I have been wondering the same thing as well. The manifold is larger, but I wondered if we left the stock manifold and replaced with some 200 cell cats, how much less HP would that combo make vs K2; provided that KLEEMANN will still offer the K2 tune for existing K1 owners?

Dads C63 · 11-06-2009, 03:54 PM

Boost Gomez - "Great runs! Your updates keep inching me toward MHP over the other tuning packages."

Trust me, you'll be glad you go with MHP if thats the decision you make. They have excellent tunes and hardware and will continue to find new upgrades. They are the only ones with L/T headers that have provenly built power and now have a 3" catback system in the works. I have the race ported heads(only ones with that) and the cams will be available by the end of the year. No one else is taking this package that far. Go with MHP and don't turn back.

God Bless,
Keith Brantley

E55AMGGG04 · 11-06-2009, 04:19 PM

WOWOW this thread is at well over 100 comments.

I can imagine when mthis gets tires and we match up 1 of the members here with a LET tune/pulley E55 vs mthis modded C63. It's going to get fun

Dads C63 · 11-06-2009, 11:00 PM

An E55 will need to be heavily modded to hang with Mthis. My friend has a stage 5 Renntech and we run side by side now. He's run low 11's in cold air so the E55 better be ready. Good luck!

Newzchspy · 11-07-2009, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by E55AMGGG04

WOWOW this thread is at well over 100 comments.

I can imagine when mthis gets tires and we match up 1 of the members here with a LET tune/pulley E55 vs mthis modded C63. It's going to get fun

I wanna see the same run with the new 2009 C63 with the P031 package that will be available in December 2009???

E55AMGGG04 · 11-07-2009, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Newzchspy

I wanna see the same run with the new 2009 C63 with the P031 package that will be available in December 2009???

Anytime anywhere

E55AMGGG04 · 11-07-2009, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dads C63

An E55 will need to be heavily modded to hang with Mthis. My friend has a stage 5 Renntech and we run side by side now. He's run low 11's in cold air so the E55 better be ready. Good luck!

As of right now we have 2 guys ready to go. 1 e55 with just tune/pulley and another with tune/pulley/headers. All we are waiting on is Mthis getting some tires

.

EuroB6 · 11-08-2009, 09:34 AM

U guys let me know when this going to happen. I want to drive over and see this.

Dads C63 · 11-08-2009, 03:04 PM

FYI - I meant no disrespect to the E55. They are great cars. All I was saying is that it will be a good run and everyone better be on their best game because it can go either way. If they run more than twice back to back the E55 will get heat soaked. For it to be fair the E55 will require a cool down between runs or at least thats been my experience. Good luck and be safe!

E55AMGGG04 · 11-08-2009, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by EuroB6

U guys let me know when this going to happen. I want to drive over and see this.

I will try to remember to PM you.

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Originally Posted by Dads C63

FYI - I meant no disrespect to the E55. They are great cars. All I was saying is that it will be a good run and everyone better be on their best game because it can go either way. If they run more than twice back to back the E55 will get heat soaked. For it to be fair the E55 will require a cool down between runs or at least thats been my experience. Good luck and be safe!

No disrespect was taken. I know as most E55 owners know that we cant do 4 runs back to back from each other. When I raced mthis and the M5 I just made a thread about I let the car cool down after every 2 runs.

chubbs032 · 11-08-2009, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Newzchspy

I wanna see the same run with the new 2009 C63 with the P031 package that will be available in December 2009???

December 09 Build, which means they will arrive January/Febuary 2010 at earliest.

DLSJ5 · 11-08-2009, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dads C63

Put the taller tires on to eliminate the 4th-5th shift along with being cooler weather and we ran 8.88 60-130. YEEHAW!! Are we having fun yet?

Not bad for a four door all motor car.

Sent Steve the files to post on 6speedonline.com

PS: Made a one mile run again with the vbox and registered 176mph. Not bad for Florida weather runs!!

Atta boy!

11-04-2009, 05:49 PM	#128
Dads C63 Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 248 Drives: 2009 C63	MURTAZA: Our gearing must be identical but I just solved that 4-5 gear problem with taller tires. HEHEHEHEHE! __________________ 2009 C63 - Complete MHP Package with M/T Drag Radials - 11.483 @ 121.58mph.

11-06-2009, 10:35 AM	#133
Dads C63 Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 248 Drives: 2009 C63	Put the taller tires on to eliminate the 4th-5th shift along with being cooler weather and we ran 8.88 60-130. YEEHAW!! Are we having fun yet? Not bad for a four door all motor car. Sent Steve the files to post on 6speedonline.com PS: Made a one mile run again with the vbox and registered 176mph. Not bad for Florida weather runs!! __________________ 2009 C63 - Complete MHP Package with M/T Drag Radials - 11.483 @ 121.58mph. Last edited by Dads C63; 11-06-2009 at 10:37 AM.

11-06-2009, 03:54 PM	#136
Dads C63 Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 248 Drives: 2009 C63	Boost Gomez - "Great runs! Your updates keep inching me toward MHP over the other tuning packages." Trust me, you'll be glad you go with MHP if thats the decision you make. They have excellent tunes and hardware and will continue to find new upgrades. They are the only ones with L/T headers that have provenly built power and now have a 3" catback system in the works. I have the race ported heads(only ones with that) and the cams will be available by the end of the year. No one else is taking this package that far. Go with MHP and don't turn back. God Bless, Keith Brantley __________________ 2009 C63 - Complete MHP Package with M/T Drag Radials - 11.483 @ 121.58mph.

11-06-2009, 04:19 PM	#137
E55AMGGG04 Super Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 781 Drives: 2004 E55 AMG, 2008 G35x, 2008 G37.	WOWOW this thread is at well over 100 comments. I can imagine when mthis gets tires and we match up 1 of the members here with a LET tune/pulley E55 vs mthis modded C63. It's going to get fun __________________

11-06-2009, 11:00 PM	#138
Dads C63 Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 248 Drives: 2009 C63	An E55 will need to be heavily modded to hang with Mthis. My friend has a stage 5 Renntech and we run side by side now. He's run low 11's in cold air so the E55 better be ready. Good luck! __________________ 2009 C63 - Complete MHP Package with M/T Drag Radials - 11.483 @ 121.58mph.

11-08-2009, 09:34 AM	#142
EuroB6 Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 119 Drives: C63 AMG / B8 A4	U guys let me know when this going to happen. I want to drive over and see this. __________________ 2009 C63 AMG Black/Black Coming soon Kleemann < Stage I 2009 A4 Ibis White/Black

11-08-2009, 03:04 PM	#143
Dads C63 Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 248 Drives: 2009 C63	FYI - I meant no disrespect to the E55. They are great cars. All I was saying is that it will be a good run and everyone better be on their best game because it can go either way. If they run more than twice back to back the E55 will get heat soaked. For it to be fair the E55 will require a cool down between runs or at least thats been my experience. Good luck and be safe! __________________ 2009 C63 - Complete MHP Package with M/T Drag Radials - 11.483 @ 121.58mph.

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