Singh Autosport/Eurorev Tune-Dyno - Page 2

ruthless · 10-30-2009, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by dlbello

Kinda strikes me funny "RUTHLESS" I mean the name

Hey off topic ... Yanks 3 Philly 1 bottom 8th close game but a good one....

haha

and yankees are gonna win

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ruthless · 10-30-2009, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by John@EuroRev

EuroRev is not affilated or dealt with 3sautosport.
We spoke with Jags (Singh Autosport) personally and he says is they are only a dealer.

Any questions, please call us at 310 216 1220

don't mean to be rude or nothin

i know u guys aren't affiliated with em but they did some cars for u guys right? at least that's what they're claiming

ruthless · 10-30-2009, 12:16 AM

o ic
thnx for clearing it up

C63 DTM AMG · 10-30-2009, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by dlbello

Kinda strikes me funny "RUTHLESS" I mean the name

Hey off topic ... Yanks 3 Philly 1 bottom 8th close game but a good one....

A WIN FOR THE YANKS!!!!!!!

when is this tune coming to NY?!

dlbello · 10-30-2009, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by C63 DTM AMG

A WIN FOR THE YANKS!!!!!!!

when is this tune coming to NY?!

Next week Fri-Sat... Singh will be posting a message soon

dlbello · 11-01-2009, 09:20 AM

Among a few of us in NYC, we'll be "Singh'ing" a New Tune 80/66 on our cars

It goes like this roooom roooom roooom sonic boom sonic boom

Please Excuse the Pun

Go Yankees!!! 2 down 2 to Go

Great game last night!

dremorg · 11-01-2009, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by dlbello

Among a few of us in NYC, we'll be "Singh'ing" a New Tune 80/66 on our cars

It goes like this roooom roooom roooom sonic boom sonic boom

Please Excuse the Pun

Go Yankees!!! 2 down 2 to Go

Great game last night!

Yeah I can't wait. Dlbello have you dyno'd your car yet? Can you reffer me to a reputable shop?

dlbello · 11-01-2009, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by dremorg

Yeah I can't wait. Dlbello have you dyno'd your car yet? Can you reffer me to a reputable shop?

Yes I have, I'll PM you with a shop when I get a chance later...

FlyC63 · 11-01-2009, 01:48 PM

Picked up my car friday with the Kleemann headers/cats installed.
Wow! sounds awsome and power is great. Feels like i picked up another 30hp.
Can't wait to dyno the car in few weeks so we can compare w/Kleemann K2 pkg.
Yes the CEL is on so Jags from Singh will have to retuned.
Also the Kleemann dealer from Spain was in town for SEMA and he recommend
i delete the secondary cats so the setup will flow better and p/up another 10hp.

dlbello · 11-01-2009, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by FlyC63

Picked up my car friday with the Kleemann headers/cats installed.
Wow! sounds awsome and power is great. Feels like i picked up another 30hp.
Can't wait to dyno the car in few weeks so we can compare w/Kleemann K2 pkg.
Yes the CEL is on so Jags from Singh will have to retuned.
Also the Kleemann dealer from Spain was in town for SEMA and he recommend
i delete the secondary cats so the setup will flow better and p/up another 10hp.

Hey T... sounds great! more power 560's HP get that dyno soon

I spoke jags, it seems like the reason why everyone needs a new ECU flash during a K2 or header upgrade is for those 02 sensors. I think the sensors gets shut down after the installation and not adjusted because of the change in exhaust flow. I'm sure that if the car was designed for higher HP output the 02 sensor would have been different... just my 2 cents

Chris420 · 11-01-2009, 10:27 PM

how much did the tune cost?

FlyC63 · 11-01-2009, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris420

how much did the tune cost?

$1499 without shipping.

W204 C63 · 11-02-2009, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by FlyC63

$1499 without shipping.

oh wow thats the best deal so far on a tune in relation to how much power it gives, right?

dlbello · 11-02-2009, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by W204 C63

oh wow thats the best deal so far on a tune in relation to how much power it gives, right?

c32AMG-DTM · 11-03-2009, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by W204 C63

oh wow thats the best deal so far on a tune in relation to how much power it gives, right?

Sure looks that way.

450 rwhp and 400 rwtq is tremendous "flash-only" performance. Since this car apparently doesn't have a baseline on this dyno, it'd be useful to see if others get this tune and have some "pre" graphs to go with the "post" ones - either on this dyno or elsewhere. Track times would also be useful to compare to other tuned C63's.

On the surface, I really only see two possibilities:

*This dyno reads higher than most

-or-

*Singh Autosport is offering a tune that makes boatloads more hp/tq than every single other tuner's offering available at present (Renntech, Kleemann, MHP, Powerchip, MKB, Eurocharged, et al.).

If the former - no biggie, they're all calibrated differently... although it's a fairly significant variation.

If the latter - well, it's not really rocket science I suppose... Singh's tune would likely have to be a good bit leaner and/or running quite a bit more ignition timing advance than everyone else who's offering a C63 tune. As the results are head-and-shoulders above everyone else for "tune-only," it's certainly the outlier in this regard.

Be interesting to see how this develops - as discussed elsewhere, more competition is usually a good thing for improving the end product(s).

Sincity · 11-03-2009, 12:14 PM

^^ You brought up some very good points.

Even Money · 11-03-2009, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by c32AMG-DTM

Sure looks that way.

450 rwhp and 400 rwtq is tremendous "flash-only" performance. If the latter - well, it's not really rocket science I suppose...

Singh's tune would likely have to be a good bit leaner and/or running quite a bit more ignition timing advance than everyone else who's offering a C63 tune. As the results are head-and-shoulders above everyone else for "tune-only," it's certainly the outlier in this regard.

The question you have to ask is why don't the other tuners offer this? A before and after dyno plot would really help. Reliability??

dremorg · 11-06-2009, 06:13 PM

This guy Jags is in Ny as we speak doing tunes. Has anyone from Ny done any tunes with him yet?

MNL ICE · 11-06-2009, 06:36 PM

FLYC63 AKA TOM, Nice meeting you last night it was a fun meet

anyway the AMG badge is called Mario Badge...just search for him here.

NORTH 44 C55 · 11-06-2009, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MNL ICE

FLYC63 AKA TOM, Nice meeting you last night it was a fun meet

anyway the AMG badge is called Mario Badge...just search for him here.

Mario Donato: AKA 4AMGS

http://mbworld.org/forums/members/6341-4-amgs.html

FlyC63 · 11-06-2009, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dremorg

This guy Jags is in Ny as we speak doing tunes. Has anyone from Ny done any tunes with him yet?

Dlbello got his yesterday i believe.

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Originally Posted by MNL ICE

FLYC63 AKA TOM, Nice meeting you last night it was a fun meet

anyway the AMG badge is called Mario Badge...just search for him here.

Like wise buddy! Those badge are bad ass. See you around soon.
Your car looks great with the setup!

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Originally Posted by NORTH 44 C55

Mario Donato: AKA 4AMGS

http://mbworld.org/forums/members/6341-4-amgs.html

Thank You Sir!

dlbello · 11-06-2009, 10:14 PM

I got my tune completed and installed early this morning 4am... I did a couple of quick runs only about 15 miles (felt solid) but still need to put on some more mileage for adaptation. The car does feel good, without hesitation... As i've heard from people getting tunes. This weekend I'll be driving a couple of hundred miles, I will try my best to get my second base/tuned Dyno jet done next week @ the same place/dyno jet I used when I first got my car.

FlyC63 · 11-06-2009, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dlbello

I got my tune completed and installed early this morning 4am... I did a couple of quick runs only about 15 miles (felt solid) but still need to put on some more mileage for adaptation. The car does feel good, without hesitation... As i've heard from people getting tunes. This weekend I'll be driving a couple of hundred miles, I will try my best to get my second base/tuned Dyno jet done next week @ the same place/dyno jet I used when I first got my car.

Congrats D! Can't wait to hear your feedback.
Enjoy driving around this weekend.

C63 DTM AMG · 11-06-2009, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dlbello

I got my tune completed and installed early this morning 4am... I did a couple of quick runs only about 15 miles (felt solid) but still need to put on some more mileage for adaptation. The car does feel good, without hesitation... As i've heard from people getting tunes. This weekend I'll be driving a couple of hundred miles, I will try my best to get my second base/tuned Dyno jet done next week @ the same place/dyno jet I used when I first got my car.

congrats! what numbers did you originally get?

dlbello · 11-06-2009, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by C63 DTM AMG

congrats! what numbers did you originally get?

My base 3 pulls with about <1K miles on the engine, I ran average 352 HP rwhp.

11-01-2009, 09:20 AM	#31
dlbello Super Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: NYC Posts: 848 Drives: 2009 C63 AMG Black on Black PP Package CF fully loaded	SINGH'ing A NEW TUNE Among a few of us in NYC, we'll be "Singh'ing" a New Tune 80/66 on our cars It goes like this roooom roooom roooom sonic boom sonic boom Please Excuse the Pun Go Yankees!!! 2 down 2 to Go Great game last night! __________________ 2009 C63 AMG FULL PP Package Fully Loaded CF Black on Black

11-03-2009, 12:14 PM	#41
Sincity MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Vegas, baby! Posts: 2,248 Drives: '86 190e restoration project, '08 Acura RDX, '09 C63 AMG	^^ You brought up some very good points. __________________ "Unofficial Member" of the Vancouver Benz crew. '09 C63 KLEEMANN MS-11S & K1. Charcoal delete w/K&Ns. SMERC upper strut bar.

11-06-2009, 06:13 PM	#43
dremorg Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: N.Y. Posts: 195 Drives: '08' C63AMG	SINGH TUNE This guy Jags is in Ny as we speak doing tunes. Has anyone from Ny done any tunes with him yet?

11-06-2009, 06:36 PM	#44
MNL ICE Super Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 567 Drives: 08 C63 AMG	FLYC63 AKA TOM, Nice meeting you last night it was a fun meet anyway the AMG badge is called Mario Badge...just search for him here. __________________

11-06-2009, 10:14 PM	#47
dlbello Super Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: NYC Posts: 848 Drives: 2009 C63 AMG Black on Black PP Package CF fully loaded	I got my tune completed and installed early this morning 4am... I did a couple of quick runs only about 15 miles (felt solid) but still need to put on some more mileage for adaptation. The car does feel good, without hesitation... As i've heard from people getting tunes. This weekend I'll be driving a couple of hundred miles, I will try my best to get my second base/tuned Dyno jet done next week @ the same place/dyno jet I used when I first got my car. __________________ 2009 C63 AMG FULL PP Package Fully Loaded CF Black on Black

10-30-2009, 12:16 AM	#28
ruthless Newbie Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3 Drives: c63 amg	o ic thnx for clearing it up

11-01-2009, 01:48 PM	#34
FlyC63 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Calabasas,Ca Posts: 39 Drives: 09 C63 and 09 750i	Picked up my car friday with the Kleemann headers/cats installed. Wow! sounds awsome and power is great. Feels like i picked up another 30hp. Can't wait to dyno the car in few weeks so we can compare w/Kleemann K2 pkg. Yes the CEL is on so Jags from Singh will have to retuned. Also the Kleemann dealer from Spain was in town for SEMA and he recommend i delete the secondary cats so the setup will flow better and p/up another 10hp.

11-01-2009, 10:27 PM	#36
Chris420 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 55 Drives: G	how much did the tune cost?

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