***P30 Discontinued****

[nlpamg]

Originally Posted by hcetzneb If you want the "netstar" measage i got dated over 2 weeks ago give me a fax number and ill send it to you. I have been hearing roumors about this for over 6 month from AMG .. Its funny right after you call me a jerk everyone chimes in saying " no its true i just got email from the lounge" and you dont have the guts to say sorry i made a mistake... unbeliveable hey man, please don't group him with the rest of the people on here. we really appreciate the information you've given. thanks for posting.

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[hcetzneb]

Sorry to rest..... certian atitudes on here latley have been driving me crazy.. Also to answer one of the questions this is being phazed in for dec. production so these will be 2010 cars for sure.. if the car has a dec build date ive seen them here in as little as 2 month . Alittle more for AMGs

[GBlansten]

Originally Posted by hcetzneb

Sorry to rest..... certian atitudes on here latley have been driving me crazy.. Also to answer one of the questions this is being phazed in for dec. production so these will be 2010 cars for sure.. if the car has a dec build date ive seen them here in as little as 2 month . Alittle more for AMGs

Thanks for the info. Don't let that guy bother you. He obviously has issues well beyond this board.

[bhamg]

I'd take either pkg but I'm glad I got the P30 at the discount I did, with the LSD and the suspension included. Red calipers...no thanks. The value for a fully loaded C63 is not there though...I'd be looking hard at an E63 if I were buying today. Great info from the OP, thx!

[avengerboater]

Yea, thanks OP for posting the info.

And like everyone else have said, 80K+ for a C-class is outrageous. Like most, I'd opt for an E63 with that kind of price tag.

[iatacs19]

Originally Posted by avengerboater

Yea, thanks OP for posting the info.

And like everyone else have said, 80K+ for a C-class is outrageous. Like most, I'd opt for an E63 with that kind of price tag.

But the E63 is more like in the high $90k range...

[JohnEnglish]

Originally Posted by avengerboater

Yea, thanks OP for posting the info.

And like everyone else have said, 80K+ for a C-class is outrageous. Like most, I'd opt for an E63 with that kind of price tag.

In Canada a fully loaded C63 is almost $78,000 before taxes (that's $73,000 USD).

The 2010 E63 goes for $130,000 with all the options ($121,000 USD).

[Jon2007E63P30]

Originally Posted by cdd

I just got an email from the Private Lounge confirming the P31. Looks like it's a go for cars built starting in Dec, so it will be a 2010 option.

If you read the post on the PL it says "please do not share this outside the PL". Thats why I used the dredded "J" bomb.

[dadavis1956]

What other options will be available for the mid-year update? I am interested in the leather update to the interior. Thanks

[panzerjager]

Originally Posted by dadavis1956

What other options will be available for the mid-year update? I am interested in the leather update to the interior. Thanks

The leather appointments look awesome.. It really rectifies the biggest problem in the interior, imo. That is, the black, rubbery plasticy dashboard. I doubt that it'll be available stateswide as an option though as it seems to be offered by designo--most of their stuff isn't available here.

I wonder when the PPP's will actually start to arrive. I'm sort of in the market for a 2010 now and the prices aren't too bad. I'm afraid that if i wait for the PPP or order it, I wont be able to get as good a price.

[Jim Brady]

It doesn't appear that the limited slip is included in the P31 package which is another $2K making the total cost close to $8k and no suspension.
I see AMG using the upgraded pistons and rods to lower the cost of the new SLS componets by offering the parts in a higher volume car like the C63. Looks like the track junkies will have to go to after market springs to stay with the M3's on the track.

[Newzchspy]

Originally Posted by cdd

I just got an email from the Private Lounge confirming the P31. Looks like it's a go for cars built starting in Dec, so it will be a 2010 option.

Geez whiz guys, I posted this about three (3) weeks ago and it fell on deaf ears. This is not new Newz (no pun) and it is true. The P30 will be available as standalone option only for $2000 for the LSD only and the new P31 will be about $5,500 with all the mods and is for 2010 C63 starting with early December 2009 production. I'd personally be kicking myself it I had just picked up my C63. Now I know why I waited to order, woo hoo!!!


This is my 10/19/2009 post verbatim:

Performance Package PLUS ?? US market availability???
Now, the european edition is getting a shot of PLUS for the P30 Package??? I wonder if we'll get it in the USA for the C63 (and perhaps other AMG vehicles)?? See below from the Official AMg Website just announced today (10/19/2009):


C 63 AMG with a shot of SLS

Enhanced driving dynamics ex factory for the Mercedes-Benz C 63 AMG: the new Performance Package Plus is an attractive optional extra that is designed to appeal to the power-hungry sports driver. The Performance Package Plus increases output by 22 kW/30 hp to 358 kW/487 hp.

As a result, the C-Class approaches the level of performance offered by C-Class DTM vehicles, which deliver 377 kW/500 hp. The Performance Package Plus is available for the saloon and estate models and includes an AMG high-performance braking system featuring composite technology on the front axle, a carbon fiber spoiler lip (saloon) and an AMG performance steering wheel in nappa leather/Alcantara.

With Performance Package Plus, the C 63 AMG accelerates from 0 to 100 km/h in 4.4 seconds and 0 to 200 km/h in 13.9 seconds. This beats the 336 kW/457 hp standard model by up to 1.2 seconds (0–100 km/h: 4.5 seconds; 0–200 km/h: 15.2 seconds). The top speed is 250 km/h (electronically limited).

The improvement in power output to 358 kW/487 hp is due to the AMG 6.3-litre V8 engine's modified engine compartment: the forged pistons adopted from the new SLS AMG super sports car together with new connecting rods and a lightweight crankshaft translate into a weight saving of three kilograms. Reduced
inertia boosts the agility and responsiveness of the uprated V8 engine, which is recognizable from the variable intake manifold painted in titanium grey. New engine management completes the powertrain measures in the Performance Package Plus for the C 63 AMG.

Key data at a glance:

Cylinder arrangement: V8
Cylinder angle: 90°
Valves per cylinder: 4
Displacement: 6208 cc
Bore x stroke: 102.2 x 94.6 mm
Compression ratio: 11.3:1
Output: 358 kW/487 hp at 6800 rpm
Max. torque: 600 Nm at 5000 rpm
Maximum engine speed: 7200 rpm
Engine weight (dry): 196 kg
Fuel consumption NEDC combined: 13.4 (13.6) l/100 km
CO2 emissions: 318 (323) g/km
Acceleration 0–100 km/h: 4.4 (4.5) s
Top speed: 250 km/h*
*electronically limited; figures in brackets: estate model

AMG high-performance braking system featuring composite technology

The Performance Package Plus braking system has been adapted to the enhanced driving dynamics. A new AMG high-performance braking system ensures greater stability when driving dynamically, with compound brake discs on the front axle and red painted brake calipers all round showing the AMG logo. The brake discs feature a composite design and are connected to an aluminium bowl to avoid temperature peaks. The connection between the disc and bowl is new: instead of the usual screw connection, the aluminium bowl is now connected to the brake disc via cast-in arms. The advantage is more homogenous temperature distribution on the brake disc.

A further identifying feature of the Performance Package Plus is the AMG carbon fiber spoiler lip on the boot lid (saloon). In the interior, the AMG performance steering wheel in nappa leather with a grip area trimmed in Alcantara feels good, while at the same time making a striking visual impact.

Extended appointments in black designo leather

New black designo leather as an optional extra will enhance the interior even further and covers the upper section of the dashboard, the upper door trim and the armrest on the center console.
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[Newzchspy]

Originally Posted by avengerboater

Yea, thanks OP for posting the info.

And like everyone else have said, 80K+ for a C-class is outrageous. Like most, I'd opt for an E63 with that kind of price tag.

Only adds $5500 to base cost of C63, nowhere near an optioned E 63.

[hcetzneb]

Originally Posted by Jon2007E63P30

If you read the post on the PL it says "please do not share this outside the PL". Thats why I used the dredded "J" bomb.

If you could read and understand english you would of seen i didnt get this measage from the private lounge. I got it from a dealer news letter as i stated 2 times.. and i did know about this over 6 month before mercedes intensionally leak the info to the press ( you guys can figure why) and i didnt share the info then because nothing was set in stone yet.... Are we playing who's better than who.. or who heard this first or cant we just sare the enjoyment of mercedes -benz as a car.

[chubbs032]

lets get over it and just enjoy the information

[Newzchspy]

Originally Posted by chubbs032

lets get over it and just enjoy the information

I know that I am over it and will be placing my December 2009 order for the P031 post haste!!!! It really is a sweet option package for only $5,500 over the base C63, not a bad deal at all!!! I do believe that it includes the LSD as well.

[hcetzneb]

The limited slip is a add on option p471 code with a 2000 price tag.. but still i think a good value for both packages..

[hcetzneb]

And like i said i apoligize to all the members.. most of the time silly comment never phase me..

[rory breaker]

I wonder if MBZ will be offering the 30hp flash as an option for us....

[MB_Forever]

Does anybody know if the same option will be available for the W212 E63 as well?

[dlbello]

Originally Posted by rory breaker

I wonder if MBZ will be offering the 30hp flash as an option for us....

If they ever do, but I think unlikely...It would only be for an arm and a leg maybe also a couple of nuts

[soldier2304]

Everything sounds good but red calipers on this car?

[avengerboater]

Originally Posted by Newzchspy

Only adds $5500 to base cost of C63, nowhere near an optioned E 63.

That's true, but how many people do you see buying a basic C63 with no other options other than the PPP?

If you add the Seating package, Multimedia Package, P2P, and LSD to the PPP it would come out to be about $73,000. Add sales tax, gas guzzler, and destination, then you're looking at an $81,000 car.

That's only about $15,000 less than a base E63 with a Premium 1 Package, which is already pretty well-equipped.

I'm not saying that the C63 is a bad deal. It's just that shelling out $80k for a C-class, even if it's a C63, is a bit over-the-top for me. Why not save up another $15k and get an E63?

[AMGC60-3]

I have been saying for months that I wanted to wait for a C63 and that I believe changes would come and that AMG left alot of room for improvements.So the way I understand is that this will be a M159 and not the M156 powerplant, the M159 world premier in the SLS. I have also read that AMG wants to produce a SLS black series in the near future, 2012 or 2013 with at least 600 ps.

I am not sure if this powerplant has DI, anyone know? But this motor is more efficient than the M156 (more power and better gas mileage) I think if you have the extra cash for this PPplus powerplant upgrade then get it. The red calipers I would have repainted back to silver.

[rage2]

Originally Posted by AMGC60-3

So the way I understand is that this will be a M159 and not the M156 powerplant, the M159 world premier in the SLS. I have also read that AMG wants to produce a SLS black series in the near future, 2012 or 2013 with at least 600 ps.

I am not sure if this powerplant has DI, anyone know? But this motor is more efficient than the M156 (more power and better gas mileage) I think if you have the extra cash for this PPplus powerplant upgrade then get it. The red calipers I would have repainted back to silver.

This is NOT the M159. The M159 differs in that it's got equal length headers, different cams, different valvetrain, dry sump, individual throttle bodies, different intake... the list goes on.

What this package does on the C63 is reduce rotating mass by 3kg. It's no different than taking 3kg off the flywheel (if that's even doable). You're not going to get more power out of it, what you will get is better acceleration in 1st, and maybe 2nd gear where accelerating that extra 3kg will actually make a difference.

I'm willing to bet that a chipped P31 vs without will produce nearly identical power.