Intense run with the modded M6 (in Mexico of course)

gripforce-cl65 · 10-30-2008, 09:10 PM

My friend has been saying the modded M6 (450WHP) will keep up with the modded CL65 (559WHP) in high speed run. So off we went and had three amazing runs. I couldn't capture them on the video since all the runs needed full drivers attention. I would say this is the most crazy run I ever did and I don't think I will ever do this again.

1st run: 100-180mph (speed indicated on the CL65)
CL65 wins by I would say about 12 car lengths

2nd run: 120-180mph (speed indicated on the CL65)
CL65 wins by I would say about 10 car lengths

3rd run: 150-200mph!!!! (speed indicated on the CL65)
CL65 wins by I would say about 6 car lengths

What's amazing was both cars were still accelerating at 200mph!!!
On a side note; it appears that the M6 had a speedometer error when CL65 showed 200mph, M6 speedometer indicated 212mph.

Thericker · 10-30-2008, 11:13 PM

Nice results! curious what is your RWTO?

BenzBoy12 · 10-30-2008, 11:21 PM

Holy ***** that is fast! How does the car feel at 200?

Fraser · 10-31-2008, 12:26 AM

Interesting! My father had an M6 for a while and I didn't know how it stacked up against the faster MBs. CLs were rare enough in the UK, let alone the AMG models!

He never took it up to high speed (well no more than 150mph). It used to garner a lot of attention from other people on the motorway, usually Mitsubushi Evos, Imprezas and the ilk. His tactic was to take the care up to about 140mph, then just settle back to 85mph/90mph, his usual highway speed. He felt his point had been made

moparrbust · 10-31-2008, 12:37 AM

Did the M6 have aftermarket wheels and/or different(than OEM) sized tires???

Fraser · 10-31-2008, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by moparrbust

Did the M6 have aftermarket wheels and/or different(than OEM) sized tires???

Me or gripforce?

I don't know enough about BMWs to know whether these were stock or not:

KENNETH04S · 10-31-2008, 04:00 AM

yeh, that's 19" stock M6 wheels

BenzBoy12 · 10-31-2008, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Fraser

Interesting! My father had an M6 for a while and I didn't know how it stacked up against the faster MBs. CLs were rare enough in the UK, let alone the AMG models!

He never took it up to high speed (well no more than 150mph). It used to garner a lot of attention from other people on the motorway, usually Mitsubushi Evos, Imprezas and the ilk. His tactic was to take the care up to about 140mph, then just settle back to 85mph/90mph, his usual highway speed. He felt his point had been made

Haha, yeah after about 135 or so, a stock STI or Evo really hits a brick wall. And they are geared pretty short.

What mods did the M6 have? Its amazing how hard they pull at super high speeds.

Fraser · 10-31-2008, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BenzBoy12

What mods did the M6 have? Its amazing how hard they pull at super high speeds.

My father's? None.

He never mods his cars.

BenzBoy12 · 10-31-2008, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Fraser

My father's? None.

He never mods his cars.

Oh...no, the guy who raced gripforce. Sorry! But good to know anyway, lol.

gripforce-cl65 · 10-31-2008, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by moparrbust

Did the M6 have aftermarket wheels and/or different(than OEM) sized tires???

No aftermarket wheels but I swapped the stock rear tires with the Michelin PS2 295/30-19 (smaller overall diameter)

Gondon · 10-31-2008, 03:21 PM

Thats what I'm talking about

gripforce-cl65 · 10-31-2008, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Thericker

Nice results! curious what is your RWTO?

When I re-dynoed the car, torque measured at 698 wtq (approx. 851 tq at the flywheel!!!! w/ 18% drivetrain loss)

gripforce-cl65 · 10-31-2008, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BenzBoy12

Oh...no, the guy who raced gripforce. Sorry! But good to know anyway, lol.

M6 has Evosport ECU mod, pulleys, 2nd cat delete, carbon filter removed, Eisenmann Race (Not Eisenhaus... LOL)

TMC M5 · 10-31-2008, 05:05 PM

Nice runs!!! There seems to be a certain myth that the M5/M6 will pull on the the 65's above 150mph. I know your car isn't exactly stock ...but neither was your M6. I am glad that your CL65 acquitted itself so well up top.

Do you run 91 octane on the CL65?

tom

gripforce-cl65 · 10-31-2008, 06:55 PM

Yes, both cars ran w/ crappy CA 91 octane. Someone told me that ecu modded CL65 runs better with 100 octane. I think its a BS but what do I know?

Vic55 · 10-31-2008, 08:07 PM

Greg is this the same M6 that we raced almost a year ago? Did you buy it off your buddy?

My M6 was slower back then but still wont hold a candle to your 65

Vic55 · 10-31-2008, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by gripforce-cl65

Yes, both cars ran w/ crappy CA 91 octane. Someone told me that ecu modded CL65 runs better with 100 octane. I think its a BS but what do I know?

A turbo engine will benefit from the higher octane gas...

Thericker · 10-31-2008, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Vic55

A turbo engine will benefit from the higher octane gas...

Yes indeed, my near stock SL600 TT loves

race gas the difference is very noticable.

I've talked w/Vadim/VRP & he told me that basic CA 91 is very poor grade gasoline, & 93 or better will really wake the car up & bring out the full factory or tuned potential.

gripforce-cl65 · 10-31-2008, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Vic55

Greg is this the same M6 that we raced almost a year ago? Did you buy it off your buddy?

My M6 was slower back then but still wont hold a candle to your 65

Yeah, we actually traded the car. He took my Z06 and I took his M6.

gripforce-cl65 · 10-31-2008, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Thericker

Yes indeed, my near stock SL600 TT loves

race gas the difference is very noticable.

I've talked w/Vadim/VRP & he told me that basic CA 91 is very poor grade gasoline, & 93 or better will really wake the car up & bring out the full factory or tuned potential.

Well, if that's the case then I may do it again with 100 octane gas. Stay tuned

TMC M5 · 10-31-2008, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by gripforce-cl65

Well, if that's the case then I may do it again with 100 octane gas. Stay tuned

I heard that you need some mileage before the ECU will adapt to the 100 octane gas. Now that gas prices have fallen a bit, it won't be such a huge hit to fill it up a couple of times with the race gas.

Tom

Thericker · 10-31-2008, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TMC M5

I heard that you need some mileage before the ECU will adapt to the 100 octane gas. Now that gas prices have fallen a bit, it won't be such a huge hit to fill it up a couple of times with the race gas.

Tom

I noticed a SOTP difference after driving about 40-50 miles

Also saw the difference when running some friends after, results were night/day

TMC M5 · 10-31-2008, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Thericker

I noticed a SOTP difference after driving about 40-50 miles

Also saw the difference when running some friends after, results were night/day

The closest place that sells 100 Octane gas at the pump is 50 miles away...I should be feeling it by the time I get back here.

Tom

Thericker · 11-01-2008, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by TMC M5

The closest place that sells 100 Octane gas at the pump is 50 miles away...I should be feeling it by the time I get back here.

Tom

Sweet

side note: 1 thing I've noticed using 93-100 octane is from a dead stop ala' stoplight & romp the pedal she'll light up the tires & continue thru the entire intersection

until I lift off the gas, vs using 91 octane the tires light up but traction cntrl quickly intervenes cutting power & applying brakes shortly after initial short burnout etc.. (Both these tests of mine are done w/ESP off)

With high octane it changes the character of the car, & no it's not just extra worn tires as I've ran it multiple times w/91 octane vs 93-100....

BenzBoy12 · 11-01-2008, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by TMC M5

Nice runs!!! There seems to be a certain myth that the M5/M6 will pull on the the 65's above 150mph. I know your car isn't exactly stock ...but neither was your M6. I am glad that your CL65 acquitted itself so well up top.

Do you run 91 octane on the CL65?

tom

I have heard this too, assuming stock to stock. I can't really see that, but its been claimed by many. Also, I would imagine that the M6 might also have something to gain with moving up to the 93 or even 100, being a very high compression engine, if not as much as the 65. Correct me if I'm wrong?

TMC M5 · 11-01-2008, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by BenzBoy12

I have heard this too, assuming stock to stock. I can't really see that, but its been claimed by many. Also, I would imagine that the M6 might also have something to gain with moving up to the 93 or even 100, being a very high compression engine, if not as much as the 65. Correct me if I'm wrong?

10-30-2008, 09:10 PM	#1
gripforce-cl65 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Irvine, CA Posts: 95	Intense run with the modded M6 (in Mexico of course) My friend has been saying the modded M6 (450WHP) will keep up with the modded CL65 (559WHP) in high speed run. So off we went and had three amazing runs. I couldn't capture them on the video since all the runs needed full drivers attention. I would say this is the most crazy run I ever did and I don't think I will ever do this again. 1st run: 100-180mph (speed indicated on the CL65) CL65 wins by I would say about 12 car lengths 2nd run: 120-180mph (speed indicated on the CL65) CL65 wins by I would say about 10 car lengths 3rd run: 150-200mph!!!! (speed indicated on the CL65) CL65 wins by I would say about 6 car lengths What's amazing was both cars were still accelerating at 200mph!!! On a side note; it appears that the M6 had a speedometer error when CL65 showed 200mph, M6 speedometer indicated 212mph. __________________ 06 CL65 Alabaster White/Java (ECU/TCU upgrade, 559WHP/ 691WTQ, Wifey's weekend toy) 05 Viper SRT10 Silver/Black (Supercharged 663WHP/ 631WTQ, RIP) 08 Corvette Yellow/Black (Bone stock, 376WHP/ 368WTQ, Wifey's DD) 08 Z06 JSB/Black (H/C modded by RPM motors, 591WHP/ 536WTQ, My DD, SOLD!!) 07 M6 Gray/Silver (Evosports stage 1, 450WHP/ 372WTQ, My DD) 09 GT-R White/Gray (Bone stock, 418WHP/ 396WTQ, My track toy) Last edited by gripforce-cl65; 10-31-2008 at 03:36 PM.

10-30-2008, 11:13 PM	#2
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10-31-2008, 12:26 AM	#4
Fraser Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 135	Interesting! My father had an M6 for a while and I didn't know how it stacked up against the faster MBs. CLs were rare enough in the UK, let alone the AMG models! He never took it up to high speed (well no more than 150mph). It used to garner a lot of attention from other people on the motorway, usually Mitsubushi Evos, Imprezas and the ilk. His tactic was to take the care up to about 140mph, then just settle back to 85mph/90mph, his usual highway speed. He felt his point had been made __________________ From a Mercedes Benz family....we've owned: '08 GL500, '08 E500, '05 E55 Wagen, '04 SL55, '04 SL500, '02 E320, '01 CLK55, '00 S500L, '99 E430, '99 E320, '98 E280, '95 E300, '91 500SEL, '91 300SE, '56 300SL

10-31-2008, 04:00 AM	#7
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10-30-2008, 11:21 PM	#3
BenzBoy12 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 289	Holy ***** that is fast! How does the car feel at 200?

10-31-2008, 12:37 AM	#5
moparrbust Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 93	Did the M6 have aftermarket wheels and/or different(than OEM) sized tires???

10-31-2008, 05:05 PM	#15
TMC M5 Super Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Rockville, MD Posts: 860	Nice runs!!! There seems to be a certain myth that the M5/M6 will pull on the the 65's above 150mph. I know your car isn't exactly stock ...but neither was your M6. I am glad that your CL65 acquitted itself so well up top. Do you run 91 octane on the CL65? tom

10-31-2008, 06:55 PM	#16
gripforce-cl65 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Irvine, CA Posts: 95	Yes, both cars ran w/ crappy CA 91 octane. Someone told me that ecu modded CL65 runs better with 100 octane. I think its a BS but what do I know? __________________ 06 CL65 Alabaster White/Java (ECU/TCU upgrade, 559WHP/ 691WTQ, Wifey's weekend toy) 05 Viper SRT10 Silver/Black (Supercharged 663WHP/ 631WTQ, RIP) 08 Corvette Yellow/Black (Bone stock, 376WHP/ 368WTQ, Wifey's DD) 08 Z06 JSB/Black (H/C modded by RPM motors, 591WHP/ 536WTQ, My DD, SOLD!!) 07 M6 Gray/Silver (Evosports stage 1, 450WHP/ 372WTQ, My DD) 09 GT-R White/Gray (Bone stock, 418WHP/ 396WTQ, My track toy)

10-31-2008, 08:07 PM	#17
Vic55 Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: THE Orange County, California Posts: 3,674	Greg is this the same M6 that we raced almost a year ago? Did you buy it off your buddy? My M6 was slower back then but still wont hold a candle to your 65 __________________ A Shake N' Bake sig