Front alignment question with those with H&R (w208)

bruce55 · 09-18-2005, 12:13 PM

I just installed a set of H&R's and 19's on my 55 and can no dout see the problem in the rear with the camber issues, the front is not so obvious. I ordered a full set of K-MAC adjusters for front and rear just in case. I was curious to see if any of you using the H&R's were able to get the fronts back into alignment without any additional kit, and I dont mean close I mean right on. I currently have #4 pads in the front and #2 in the rear, this is what came stock. I am going to either switch out the front to a #2 or the rear to a #4 to even things up. Just have do decide if I want the extra clearence with the 4's or the lower look of the 2's. Any input would be appreciated.

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mtimmy · 09-18-2005, 11:14 PM

make sure your wheel don't kit the fender when you switch out the pad for a lower no. one...

mtimmy · 09-20-2005, 08:09 PM

hit the fender I meant

allenjdmb · 09-21-2005, 05:50 PM

tha you'll be able to get back to anything close to stock camber on the fronts. Even with the higher pads, the H&R's for the 208's are quite low. I used the factory crash (camber) bolts and was unable to get it to where I wanted it. The Kmac probably has more adjustability though. Those cars are just quite camber sensitive; not only do they get "all over the road", but have much more steering effort and correction with too much negative. This was one of the main reasons I sold my car. I did have better results with the Factory Euro 55 springs than the H&R however. Hope this helps.

bruce55 · 09-21-2005, 11:30 PM

Well I received the whole KMAC kit front and rear and will be installing it in the next day or so. As far as I know the factory crash bolts provide maybe 1 degree of adjustment for the front. I know the factory stock adjustment allows for only about 3 tenths of a degree of adjustment as stated by MB. The Kmac Kit I think allows for up to 3 degres of movement maybe even more from the looks of it. I will follow up as to what the alignment ends up being. My whole idea behind all of this to be able to lower the car and have it retain factory drivability with optimal tire ware. I hope this works or this with be alot time wasted and alot of cash flushed down the crapper. I just installed the new 19's and refuse to drive it until it is aligned properly.

Lmmike · 09-21-2005, 11:46 PM

I had a 430, so the suspension is a little different, but I was able to get mine in specs. The car drove perfect. I used the KMAC front kit and rear camber arms from Jeff on the forum. Make sure you find a garage that knows about suspension, I went to at least 5 places b4 i felt confident. They set the front at 1.5 and the rear at 1.2. I had great tire wear and great traction. I had the HR's and #2pads in front and #2pads in rear. I also had 18.5 in front and 18.9 rims in back. No rubbing even with four people in the car. It wasn't cheap, but nothing on this car is, I pd around $400.

09-20-2005, 08:09 PM	#3
mtimmy Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 397 Drives: W208 55 & R170 230	hit the fender I meant __________________ 01 W208 55 AMG EX- SC 99 Porsche 996 Carrera 08 E92 335 stage II kit - 350whp

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09-18-2005, 11:14 PM	#2
mtimmy Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 397 Drives: W208 55 & R170 230	make sure your wheel don't kit the fender when you switch out the pad for a lower no. one...

09-21-2005, 05:50 PM	#4
allenjdmb MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,045 Drives: SL 55 030, ML, E55, bunch of old ones	I doubt very seriously... tha you'll be able to get back to anything close to stock camber on the fronts. Even with the higher pads, the H&R's for the 208's are quite low. I used the factory crash (camber) bolts and was unable to get it to where I wanted it. The Kmac probably has more adjustability though. Those cars are just quite camber sensitive; not only do they get "all over the road", but have much more steering effort and correction with too much negative. This was one of the main reasons I sold my car. I did have better results with the Factory Euro 55 springs than the H&R however. Hope this helps.

09-21-2005, 11:30 PM	#5
bruce55 Newbie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 17 Drives: 2002 CLK 55	Well I received the whole KMAC kit front and rear and will be installing it in the next day or so. As far as I know the factory crash bolts provide maybe 1 degree of adjustment for the front. I know the factory stock adjustment allows for only about 3 tenths of a degree of adjustment as stated by MB. The Kmac Kit I think allows for up to 3 degres of movement maybe even more from the looks of it. I will follow up as to what the alignment ends up being. My whole idea behind all of this to be able to lower the car and have it retain factory drivability with optimal tire ware. I hope this works or this with be alot time wasted and alot of cash flushed down the crapper. I just installed the new 19's and refuse to drive it until it is aligned properly.

09-21-2005, 11:46 PM	#6
Lmmike Almost a Member! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: STL Posts: 42 Drives: '05 Audi S4	I had a 430, so the suspension is a little different, but I was able to get mine in specs. The car drove perfect. I used the KMAC front kit and rear camber arms from Jeff on the forum. Make sure you find a garage that knows about suspension, I went to at least 5 places b4 i felt confident. They set the front at 1.5 and the rear at 1.2. I had great tire wear and great traction. I had the HR's and #2pads in front and #2pads in rear. I also had 18.5 in front and 18.9 rims in back. No rubbing even with four people in the car. It wasn't cheap, but nothing on this car is, I pd around $400.

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