New Corvette ZR-1, about $100k

SL65amg · 12-20-2007, 02:46 AM

Do you guys think this car is a viable alternative to buying a $100,000 German car?

It will probably smoke almost anything under $200,000, and supposedly GM says they've designed it to be alot more comfortable to drive than the Z06 also. It will have somewhere between 620 to 650 HP, carbon ceramic brakes, carbon fiber body parts, etc. etc..

The Zero to 60 should be in the very low 3's, and it should hit the 1/4 mile in the 10's easily. Top speed should be the same as maybe the new Porsche GT2. Chip tuning should be pretty easy now that it is FI. 700+ HP shouldn't be a problem.

Any thoughts?

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pigman · 12-20-2007, 03:21 AM

If only GM would get rid of the vette name for the car.

One of the reasons I drive a Mercedes is for the safety just in case I'm in another high-speed wreck and I don't think that GM beast is going to offer the same level of protection. Horsepower now is getting to be like megapixels. How much can most people really do with 10 mega pixels and how much can someone do with 700 or, in a few years, 1000 hp? When everyone else has 1000 hp, will we want 1200?

chiphomme · 12-20-2007, 04:52 AM

It depends on the interior quality. Corvettes have always had crap interiors.
If I were going to drop $100k or less I'd probably go with the GTR. The GTR seems like a more sophisticated car (eg all wheel drive).

Timeless · 12-20-2007, 09:34 AM

Two doors won't work for me...but looks like a nice car.

SemiSilentBob · 12-20-2007, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiphomme

It depends on the interior quality. Corvettes have always had crap interiors.
If I were going to drop $100k or less I'd probably go with the GTR. The GTR seems like a more sophisticated car (eg all wheel drive).

That's the big turn off for me with the Corvette, the cheesy interior. The new body style is nice but open the door and you would think it's a Malibu.

Bob

hrothgar02 · 12-20-2007, 03:09 PM

Isn't a $100K 620hp Vette like an all you can eat sushi buffet? It may appear to be a good deal but in the end the experience is marred by poor ingredients (i.e poor fit and finish / crude engineering / poor interior / poor long term quality).

A professional driving took me around a road course in a 2007 Z06 and while it was a hoot, I would never plunk down $75K+ for a Corvette. I would much rather get a new base Porsche 997 or a used 996TT. Just my $.02.

Chappy · 12-20-2007, 03:47 PM

Is this the "Blue Devil" vette they've been working on?

Jim Brady · 12-20-2007, 04:19 PM

Vette boards say sticker is going to be around $120K. Add the premium for the early models and its in the $150K range. There going to make 2000 @ year till the body style cycles out.

Ya it'll be fast and the tuners will bump the 620 up. At that level the perfomance is really traction dependent. I had a mild interest in the Zo6 but QC and the fact you have to take a 120K car to a chevy dealer will be a huge turn off.
Welcome to the second coming of the muscle car era. Fuel costs and govt. regulations will soon kill the fun just like in the early 70's.
Jimmy

Jakpro1 · 12-20-2007, 05:01 PM

Heh heh heh, on behalf of all of us Kompressor guys, welcome to the heat soak zone Vette guys.

Get ready for posts on the Vette forums like

"Not sure what happened? Racing on a warm Spring/Summer day and all the sudden it went limp on me. "

and if no shutoff,

"Was getting on it hard the other day and now she is making a knocking noise. Kinda like I got detonation or something"

Welcome to the jungle baby.

MarcusF · 12-21-2007, 12:01 AM

From today’s Wall Street Journal –

One of the features that is expected to set the ZR1 apart is carbon-fiber body panels that the company guarantees will last a lifetime. The carbon fiber is lathered with a clear coating that costs about $2,000 a gallon because of a rare additive.

Bodywork may be expensive.

sd964 · 12-21-2007, 01:16 AM

It might not have a great interior, but most of us will be looking at it from behind.

Remember, the Ferrari F40 had a cable as a door handle and no radio.

SL65amg · 12-21-2007, 03:27 AM

You are probably right, the ZR-1 will for sure be wickedly fast not only in a straight line but also on a track and/or in the twisties. Braking will be unbelievable with those Enzo FXX carbon ceramic huge brakes. Chip tuning will be sick too, probably getting another 100 horsepower and 100 more lb/ft of torque out of it right away will happen for sure and alot cheaper than upgrading a German car obviously. They really need to work on the interior though that's true. They need a paddle shift transmission also...
but the rumors are that the all-new corvette (which is coming in what? 2011?) will have finally a much upgraded interior that it deserves. We'll just have to wait and see.

rbaker · 12-21-2007, 04:25 AM

You guys might be surprised as to how good the Vette really is... I just picked up a 2008 Z06 and frankly it blows my AMG away for driving & visual appeal. Performance in every category is not even close, the exterior appeal is far greater and the interior is not as bad as you might think. Heck, even my uppity GF likes the interior. The interior is not up to AMG's standards, but with the carbon fiber console & extended leather on the dash & doors, it's pretty nice. The touch screen/voice activated NAV works better than my AMG (and waaaay better than her Idrive BMW), plus it has heads up display, a real limited slip and 3 mode traction control with competition mode. I get more compliments when I drive the Z06 than my AMG and frankly, it puts a 10x bigger smile on my face. Not to mention the ability to have 2cd gear spin the tires at 60MPH when you roll on it getting on a fwy, which mind you only took a tick over 2 seconds to go from 40 to 95...

Another way to think of it is this... is it better to spend $2k+ for custom interior bits to make it smell/feel nicer, or to put even more money into a German engine & void the warranty & still have a car that's not as fast? A few guys on the Vette forums in bone stock 2006 Z06's (even with the slippery stock run flat tires) have already cut high 10's to 11.1's in the 1/4 mile, bone stock. Can we say faster than an SLR?

I've owned more German cars than American, but lets face it... the BMW/MBZ dealers will void your warranty if you look at your AMG funny just like South Bay MBZ did when my wonderful C55 engine started to tear itself apart from the inside out, and all they said was "No Problem Found" the first time then "it's not covered" the next and leave you with a $30k bill to replace your engine. My Chevy dealer knows I'm gonna be tracking & modding my Z06 & said "no problem long as you're not pro-racing it". I even test drove the 911 turbo before buying this & still went with the Z06. It's more comfortable & practical to drive on the street than the 911, even if it doesn't feel like quite as precise a surgical instrument. Steering feel is better than AMG & all the new BMW's I've driven though ('08s received improved steering, shifter, trans & suspension calibrations). As my 3rd car it's not my daily driver, but it is certainly capable of it.

SL65amg · 12-21-2007, 02:42 PM

rbaker, are you considering upgrading to the ZR-1? And if not, are you gonna throw some mods on your Z06 to make it even faster? Like a supercharger, etc..?

Congrats on the vette, it must be awesome to drive!

rbaker · 12-24-2007, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SL65amg

rbaker, are you considering upgrading to the ZR-1? And if not, are you gonna throw some mods on your Z06 to make it even faster? Like a supercharger, etc..?

Congrats on the vette, it must be awesome to drive!

I looked at the rumors about the new ZR-1 and so far have no plans to get one. I don't think it's worth the extra $$ and the hassle (for any car) to be an early adopter paying ridiculous amounts over sticker. Besides, the Z06's limits are already so high I'm not sure where they're going to make the ZR-1 that much faster. The Z06's I've seen supercharged aren't any faster than stock until you get past 80-100 as the cars are already traction limited. Remember that even a stock Z06 has almost 500ft lbs of torque, and over 505HP while it weighs only 3150 lbs...

After driving it for a month, I can see that the most important mod is for me to become properly familiarized with her & learn the limits (and how she reacts there). Also I need to practice how to launch the car correctly as it has more than enough power to roast the tires at will (even with those huge 325/30/19's out back), so proper throttle management is key. For now, I'm not worried about power mods. I may just change seats & have a couple of interior bits recovered in nicer leather. Later on, maybe replace the run flat tires with PS2 or PSC's which would improve traction & overall perf enough to be the best $$ mod I can think of. Possibly coil overs at some point, but it feels pretty nicely calibrated as is

MB_Forever · 12-25-2007, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rbaker

I looked at the rumors about the new ZR-1 and so far have no plans to get one. I don't think it's worth the extra $$ and the hassle (for any car) to be an early adopter paying ridiculous amounts over sticker. Besides, the Z06's limits are already so high I'm not sure where they're going to make the ZR-1 that much faster. The Z06's I've seen supercharged aren't any faster than stock until you get past 80-100 as the cars are already traction limited. Remember that even a stock Z06 has almost 500ft lbs of torque, and over 505HP while it weighs only 3150 lbs...

After driving it for a month, I can see that the most important mod is for me to become properly familiarized with her & learn the limits (and how she reacts there). Also I need to practice how to launch the car correctly as it has more than enough power to roast the tires at will (even with those huge 325/30/19's out back), so proper throttle management is key. For now, I'm not worried about power mods. I may just change seats & have a couple of interior bits recovered in nicer leather. Later on, maybe replace the run flat tires with PS2 or PSC's which would improve traction & overall perf enough to be the best $$ mod I can think of. Possibly coil overs at some point, but it feels pretty nicely calibrated as is

+1

I would wait a couple of years after the ZR-1 has been out then pick a used one up for much cheaper

drvalidus · 11-09-2008, 04:01 PM

I totally agree with rbaker. As an ex-Z06 owner (2006), the Vette was a sweet ride. Beautiful to look at and a hell of a lot of fun to drive. Interior was really not bad and the onboard computer system is really impressive! After a couple of years, I sold it because unless it's on the track, it's near impossible to really appreciate the 505 HP. (except for 3 second thrills because once you hit 100mph on the highway, you really can't do anything else except to slow down!) For a daily driver, it was just too much torque! Try trying to drink a starbuck's coffee while driving a Z06 in the city. Not possible unless you want coffee burns and stains.

The AMG is truly a luxury car compared to the Vette. A really, really fast luxury car.

As for the ZR1, that is just an stupid amount of HP in my opinion. And I bet, 99% of the people couldn't even tell it from the Z06 by just looking at it.

neilbo75 · 11-09-2008, 05:53 PM

Funny, people criticising a "stupid amount of horsepower" in an AMG forum.

Fact is, it's the $200K and up 'super cars' that can't compete with the new super 'vette, not the other way around. Try 7:30 around the North Loop of Nurburgring. That's much faster than an SLR.

The fastest car will always sell well. For the sake of GM, I just hope the ZR1 has enough of a "halo" to move all those Malibus and 4x4s rusting away on the lots.

Jons95c36amg · 11-09-2008, 09:19 PM

I've seen the new ZR-1 in person. At first it looks like a Z06. Untill you get close and see the transparent hood,huge brakes, carbon fiber roof,and of course the ZR-1 badges. I think its a bargain if you want just raw performance.

da_guitarist · 11-09-2008, 11:48 PM

That is a LOT of car my friend. It's not much luxury, but with enzo and veyron brakes, a 600+hp engine, and carbon fiber body panels....not to mention looks AMAZING! If you're looking for a performance car, i believe that's it. If you want a luxury car with lots of performance, you're a different buyer.

neilbo75 · 11-10-2008, 07:11 PM

Amen. I'm looking for luxury and performance. If I'm going to add a supercharger, I want to add some more leather as well.

And, if fact, Chevy has been adding leather to the interior of the 'vette. But MB and AMG have still got a half a lap lead.

lkfoster · 11-11-2008, 09:08 AM

Jeremy Clarkson seemed to like the one he drove through Nevada and Utah on last Sunday's Top Gear episode. He mentioned it against an Enzo as I recall, but no mention of anything German.

AMGOODNESS · 11-11-2008, 06:10 PM

it will be super fast without a date. but the car does not look the part. it may not simply be a ZO6 with clear see through bubble on the hood but that is definitely what it looks like. if you see the C6, ZO6, and the ZR1 all sitting together there is not much difference. For the money i would just buy the ZO6 and call it a day. oh, by the way the interior for all three cars is virtually identical.

people who buy corvettes have always loved corvettes or want raw performance at a great price. i would much rather spend my money on a german car or other exotic that has some refinement and performance.

da_guitarist · 11-12-2008, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMGOODNESS

raw performance at a great price

I believe you hit the nail on the head.

12-20-2007, 03:21 AM	#2
pigman Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 229 Drives: 2001 CLK 55 AMG	If only GM would get rid of the vette name for the car. One of the reasons I drive a Mercedes is for the safety just in case I'm in another high-speed wreck and I don't think that GM beast is going to offer the same level of protection. Horsepower now is getting to be like megapixels. How much can most people really do with 10 mega pixels and how much can someone do with 700 or, in a few years, 1000 hp? When everyone else has 1000 hp, will we want 1200? __________________ 2001 CLK 55 (14k miles) 2009 ML 550

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12-20-2007, 03:09 PM	#6
hrothgar02 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 89	Bang for the buck Isn't a $100K 620hp Vette like an all you can eat sushi buffet? It may appear to be a good deal but in the end the experience is marred by poor ingredients (i.e poor fit and finish / crude engineering / poor interior / poor long term quality). A professional driving took me around a road course in a 2007 Z06 and while it was a hoot, I would never plunk down $75K+ for a Corvette. I would much rather get a new base Porsche 997 or a used 996TT. Just my $.02.

12-20-2007, 03:47 PM	#7
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12-20-2007, 04:19 PM	#8
Jim Brady Super Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Orange Park Acres, CA Posts: 714 Drives: CLK 63 Black Series, CLS 55, C350,	Vette boards say sticker is going to be around $120K. Add the premium for the early models and its in the $150K range. There going to make 2000 @ year till the body style cycles out. Ya it'll be fast and the tuners will bump the 620 up. At that level the perfomance is really traction dependent. I had a mild interest in the Zo6 but QC and the fact you have to take a 120K car to a chevy dealer will be a huge turn off. Welcome to the second coming of the muscle car era. Fuel costs and govt. regulations will soon kill the fun just like in the early 70's. Jimmy __________________ JJayB '08 CLK 63 Black '06 CLS 55 (gone) '96 993tt Andial 3.8

12-20-2007, 04:52 AM	#3
chiphomme Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Fargo, North Dakota Posts: 328 Drives: 2009 Nissan GT-R, 2008 Cayenne GTS, 2010 X6M	It depends on the interior quality. Corvettes have always had crap interiors. If I were going to drop $100k or less I'd probably go with the GTR. The GTR seems like a more sophisticated car (eg all wheel drive).

12-20-2007, 05:01 PM	#9
Jakpro1 MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Salt Lake City (but not Morm) Posts: 5,088 Drives: 2003 E55 570whp! Booyeah!!	Heh heh heh, on behalf of all of us Kompressor guys, welcome to the heat soak zone Vette guys. Get ready for posts on the Vette forums like "Not sure what happened? Racing on a warm Spring/Summer day and all the sudden it went limp on me. " and if no shutoff, "Was getting on it hard the other day and now she is making a knocking noise. Kinda like I got detonation or something" Welcome to the jungle baby. __________________

12-21-2007, 12:01 AM	#10
MarcusF MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: SCV SoCal Posts: 1,499 Drives: FIA approved Pumas	From today’s Wall Street Journal – One of the features that is expected to set the ZR1 apart is carbon-fiber body panels that the company guarantees will last a lifetime. The carbon fiber is lathered with a clear coating that costs about $2,000 a gallon because of a rare additive. Bodywork may be expensive. __________________ Mercedes-Benz spec page Signal to Noise Join the Mercedes-Benz Club of America here

12-21-2007, 01:16 AM	#11
sd964 Newbie Join Date: May 2007 Location: San Diego Posts: 10 Drives: 01 CLK 55	New corvette It might not have a great interior, but most of us will be looking at it from behind. Remember, the Ferrari F40 had a cable as a door handle and no radio.

12-21-2007, 03:27 AM	#12
SL65amg Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 441 Drives: Custom CLK, 2007 CL 550 Designo Black over Creme	probably right You are probably right, the ZR-1 will for sure be wickedly fast not only in a straight line but also on a track and/or in the twisties. Braking will be unbelievable with those Enzo FXX carbon ceramic huge brakes. Chip tuning will be sick too, probably getting another 100 horsepower and 100 more lb/ft of torque out of it right away will happen for sure and alot cheaper than upgrading a German car obviously. They really need to work on the interior though that's true. They need a paddle shift transmission also... but the rumors are that the all-new corvette (which is coming in what? 2011?) will have finally a much upgraded interior that it deserves. We'll just have to wait and see. __________________ 2007 CL 550 Designo Mocha Black/Light Creme & Charcoal 2-Tone Premium Leather - Night Vision, Back-Up Camera, Sirius, Bluetooth, Keyless Go, Trunk Closer, Drive Dynamic Seats, 2-Piece AMG 19" Wheels w/PS2's, Parktronic, IPod Kit w/80 Gig IPod, PermaFinish Paint Protection System, 3M Clear Bra, K40 Integrated Radar Jamming/Laser Diffusing System, Blinder Anti-Photo/Anti-Video Cover & Anti-Photo Spray

12-21-2007, 04:25 AM	#13
rbaker Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Redondo Beach Posts: 206 Drives: Z06, M3, Mini Cooper S. Sold: C55	You guys might be surprised as to how good the Vette really is... I just picked up a 2008 Z06 and frankly it blows my AMG away for driving & visual appeal. Performance in every category is not even close, the exterior appeal is far greater and the interior is not as bad as you might think. Heck, even my uppity GF likes the interior. The interior is not up to AMG's standards, but with the carbon fiber console & extended leather on the dash & doors, it's pretty nice. The touch screen/voice activated NAV works better than my AMG (and waaaay better than her Idrive BMW), plus it has heads up display, a real limited slip and 3 mode traction control with competition mode. I get more compliments when I drive the Z06 than my AMG and frankly, it puts a 10x bigger smile on my face. Not to mention the ability to have 2cd gear spin the tires at 60MPH when you roll on it getting on a fwy, which mind you only took a tick over 2 seconds to go from 40 to 95... Another way to think of it is this... is it better to spend $2k+ for custom interior bits to make it smell/feel nicer, or to put even more money into a German engine & void the warranty & still have a car that's not as fast? A few guys on the Vette forums in bone stock 2006 Z06's (even with the slippery stock run flat tires) have already cut high 10's to 11.1's in the 1/4 mile, bone stock. Can we say faster than an SLR? I've owned more German cars than American, but lets face it... the BMW/MBZ dealers will void your warranty if you look at your AMG funny just like South Bay MBZ did when my wonderful C55 engine started to tear itself apart from the inside out, and all they said was "No Problem Found" the first time then "it's not covered" the next and leave you with a $30k bill to replace your engine. My Chevy dealer knows I'm gonna be tracking & modding my Z06 & said "no problem long as you're not pro-racing it". I even test drove the 911 turbo before buying this & still went with the Z06. It's more comfortable & practical to drive on the street than the 911, even if it doesn't feel like quite as precise a surgical instrument. Steering feel is better than AMG & all the new BMW's I've driven though ('08s received improved steering, shifter, trans & suspension calibrations). As my 3rd car it's not my daily driver, but it is certainly capable of it. Last edited by rbaker; 12-21-2007 at 04:41 AM.

12-21-2007, 02:42 PM	#14
SL65amg Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 441 Drives: Custom CLK, 2007 CL 550 Designo Black over Creme	to rbaker rbaker, are you considering upgrading to the ZR-1? And if not, are you gonna throw some mods on your Z06 to make it even faster? Like a supercharger, etc..? Congrats on the vette, it must be awesome to drive! __________________ 2007 CL 550 Designo Mocha Black/Light Creme & Charcoal 2-Tone Premium Leather - Night Vision, Back-Up Camera, Sirius, Bluetooth, Keyless Go, Trunk Closer, Drive Dynamic Seats, 2-Piece AMG 19" Wheels w/PS2's, Parktronic, IPod Kit w/80 Gig IPod, PermaFinish Paint Protection System, 3M Clear Bra, K40 Integrated Radar Jamming/Laser Diffusing System, Blinder Anti-Photo/Anti-Video Cover & Anti-Photo Spray

11-09-2008, 04:01 PM	#17
drvalidus Newbie Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Vegas Posts: 23 Drives: 2005 CLK 55 AMG Cabriolet	I totally agree with rbaker. As an ex-Z06 owner (2006), the Vette was a sweet ride. Beautiful to look at and a hell of a lot of fun to drive. Interior was really not bad and the onboard computer system is really impressive! After a couple of years, I sold it because unless it's on the track, it's near impossible to really appreciate the 505 HP. (except for 3 second thrills because once you hit 100mph on the highway, you really can't do anything else except to slow down!) For a daily driver, it was just too much torque! Try trying to drink a starbuck's coffee while driving a Z06 in the city. Not possible unless you want coffee burns and stains. The AMG is truly a luxury car compared to the Vette. A really, really fast luxury car. As for the ZR1, that is just an stupid amount of HP in my opinion. And I bet, 99% of the people couldn't even tell it from the Z06 by just looking at it.

11-09-2008, 05:53 PM	#18
neilbo75 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: living in Paris, France and San Diego ... Posts: 454 Drives: 2002 CLK 55 AMG Coupé	Funny, people criticising a "stupid amount of horsepower" in an AMG forum. Fact is, it's the $200K and up 'super cars' that can't compete with the new super 'vette, not the other way around. Try 7:30 around the North Loop of Nurburgring. That's much faster than an SLR. The fastest car will always sell well. For the sake of GM, I just hope the ZR1 has enough of a "halo" to move all those Malibus and 4x4s rusting away on the lots.

11-09-2008, 09:19 PM	#19
Jons95c36amg MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Desert Posts: 1,521 Drives: 02 CLK 55 AMG,95 C36 AMG	I've seen the new ZR-1 in person. At first it looks like a Z06. Untill you get close and see the transparent hood,huge brakes, carbon fiber roof,and of course the ZR-1 badges. I think its a bargain if you want just raw performance. __________________ 02 Clk55 bone stock time 2.1 60ft 13.1@108.6

11-09-2008, 11:48 PM	#20
da_guitarist MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 1,466 Drives: 01 CLK55	That is a LOT of car my friend. It's not much luxury, but with enzo and veyron brakes, a 600+hp engine, and carbon fiber body panels....not to mention looks AMAZING! If you're looking for a performance car, i believe that's it. If you want a luxury car with lots of performance, you're a different buyer. __________________

11-10-2008, 07:11 PM	#21
neilbo75 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: living in Paris, France and San Diego ... Posts: 454 Drives: 2002 CLK 55 AMG Coupé	Amen. I'm looking for luxury and performance. If I'm going to add a supercharger, I want to add some more leather as well. And, if fact, Chevy has been adding leather to the interior of the 'vette. But MB and AMG have still got a half a lap lead.

11-11-2008, 09:08 AM	#22
lkfoster Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Phoenix, AZ USA/Ashkelon, Israel Posts: 200 Drives: '06 C55, '04 Audi TT 3.2 Cpe, '35 Ford 5w Cpe, '48 Willys Jeepster, '53 MGTD and others	Jeremy Clarkson seemed to like the one he drove through Nevada and Utah on last Sunday's Top Gear episode. He mentioned it against an Enzo as I recall, but no mention of anything German.

11-11-2008, 06:10 PM	#23
AMGOODNESS Super Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sparks, NV Posts: 613 Drives: 03 CLK 55 AMG, IMCO muffler/Magnaflow tips, KW V1 coilovers, 19" Petrol Metrix Wheels	it will be super fast without a date. but the car does not look the part. it may not simply be a ZO6 with clear see through bubble on the hood but that is definitely what it looks like. if you see the C6, ZO6, and the ZR1 all sitting together there is not much difference. For the money i would just buy the ZO6 and call it a day. oh, by the way the interior for all three cars is virtually identical. people who buy corvettes have always loved corvettes or want raw performance at a great price. i would much rather spend my money on a german car or other exotic that has some refinement and performance.

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