W209 CLK 55 AMG Kompressor

IanPooley · 12-13-2002, 07:03 AM

Hi all,

AMG will release a small production run of the W209 CLK 55 AMG which is supercharged. It will be the same engine as the SL 55 AMG has (500 HP).

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Tezta · 12-14-2002, 09:55 AM

That would be a smart move for MB.

tango · 12-14-2002, 09:37 PM

so are they going to have two versions of the clk55?

jco-amg · 12-14-2002, 11:59 PM

I bet we will not see it the US.

I am watching the DTM A.1 race right now and you know the 209 CLK looks really good in DTM dress...very slippery...Alesi is leading...Race over...fantastic finish....1 Fassler 2 Schneider 3 Alesi all MB's!!

Schneider went from 7th to 2nd in two laps...awesome!

amg55 · 12-15-2002, 10:38 PM

The MB website says 368 hp for W209CLK55.
You mean you've heard that an even more limited run will have the 469-500 hp supercharged engine?
Why would AMG run 2 separate engines through for the same model?
That would require an entire overhaul of the suspension, settings, dynamics etc, all for a very few cars.
Would not be a profitable move, I'd have to guess.
No precedent for this, either.
Where did you hear this?

IanPooley · 12-16-2002, 06:41 AM

Hi,

i sawthis from a special AMG report in the TV. This is only a limited edition. We have things like that here in germany - maybe you not

Caliz_Finest · 12-16-2002, 08:19 PM

germany kicks ass

FrankW · 12-17-2002, 04:10 AM

It's probably going to be the Special Vehicle from AMG only offered in Europe. Like the C32 AMG sports coupe and the past C55, S63, etc.

If a CLK55 AMG cost around $70k-80k, the CLK55 with kompressor could be near $90-100k.

IanPooley · 12-17-2002, 06:22 AM

Oh my god...

you have no C 32 sportscoupe in the US? No C 55??? LOL....

Every german automobile manufacturer makes cars for the european market first. After that they are procuding other versions for the US market and the last step is to export cars to the arabic states like dubai.
The special versions of some cars like the CLK GTR (612 HP) from LeMans are always exported to the arabic market. They pay very well...

FrankW · 12-18-2002, 01:55 AM

nope...we don't get any of the special vehicle from AMG in the US. Unless you got tons of cash.

tango · 12-18-2002, 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FrankW
It's probably going to be the Special Vehicle from AMG only offered in Europe. Like the C32 AMG sports coupe and the past C55, S63, etc.

If a CLK55 AMG cost around $70k-80k, the CLK55 with kompressor could be near $90-100k.

how about CLK AMG with kleemann compressor.. daz prolly be a better value eh..!?

FrankW · 12-18-2002, 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tango
how about CLK AMG with kleemann compressor.. daz prolly be a better value eh..!?

not really the kompressor from kleemann is probably around $10k or more.

IanPooley · 12-18-2002, 09:07 AM

Kleeman supercharger for the 5,5 liter engine: 18.000 euro. Have Phun....

G1zm0 · 12-22-2002, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FrankW
It's probably going to be the Special Vehicle from AMG only offered in Europe. Like the C32 AMG sports coupe and the past C55, S63, etc.

If a CLK55 AMG cost around $70k-80k, the CLK55 with kompressor could be near $90-100k.

also like the CL55 F1
CLK55 F1 would do nicely with ceramic breaks

IanPooley · 12-23-2002, 05:22 AM

HI,

the SL 55 AMG F1 and the SLR F1 have ceramic brakes too

FrankW · 12-23-2002, 05:25 AM

aren't the AMG F1 model only for pace car use in the F1?

V8 forever · 12-28-2002, 12:43 PM

The Kleemann-Kompressor for the CLK 55 - including installation in Brüggen costs Euro 25 000,- like I was offered by Kleemann Germany.
Then You would need wider and bigger tires too, I dont know exactly the Kleemanns price for it.

AMG offered me to have new rims, tires in 18 inch for about Euro 4000,-, including eventually necessary work on the body. The work would be done at AMG- Affalterbach.

But the most important thing :This rim and tire change would be legal, documented in the registration. Our technical surveillance agency here (TÜV) told me that they wont except anything else than AMG-approved alterations at this car.

Stefan

Lucas · 12-28-2002, 01:44 PM

V8 forever :

You are wrong, please sometimes do your homework before you post to the whole world false information.

1.
The approx. € 25.000,00 is not the price for the CLK, it's the price for the new 640 HP version for the new 55 with compressor from AMG, like SL, CL, S and E 55.
We all know that the new 209 CLK is the " normal " aspirated 5,5
engine, so the price is approx. € 21.000,00 for 562 HP / 718 NM.

2.
Ofcause all Kleemann parts comes with TÜV, and all mods. will be written in your " Fahrzeugbreif ", without TÜV on the products, KLEEMANN or anybody else would leave the customer without insurance on the car in case of an accident.

So you can bring your 209 to KLEEMANN GmbH and have 19" or 20" with all TÜV approvals in your papers.

18" !!!! isn't that a size real men use for winter tires. :p :p :p

V8 forever · 12-29-2002, 07:23 AM

Lucas,

I am new at this forum but I am not stupid, neither I want to provide false informations.E-Mail from Mr.Kristensen ,Oktober 2002 :

Quote:
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Sehr Geehrter Herr Heringer

Wir bedanken uns für Ihr Interesse an unseren Veredlungsprodukten für Mercedes Benz.

Die Leistung und Preisgestaltung für Ihren Mercedes CLK 55 AMG ist wie folgt:

Kleemann CLK 55 K 404KW/ 550 PS und 710 NM.

Basis CLK 55 AMG

Preis: € 21.430,- Zzgl. 16% Mwst Inkl. Einbau, inkl. 12 Monate Garantie

Dauer: Für den reinen Kompressor Einbau 3 – 4 Tage.

Hinterachstraktion: Empfehlenswert wäre breitere Reifen!

Welche Reifenbreite fahren sie Im Moment?

Ich würde Sie auch gerne gleichzeitig zu einer Probefahrt einladen, wenn Sie zeit und lust haben

Mal nach Brüggen zu kommen.

Würde mich sehr freuen.

Wenn Sie weitere Fragen haben sind Sie jederzeit herzlich willkommen mich zu kontaktieren
mations.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

So take a calculator and do the following addition :

Euro 21 430,- plus 16 % MWSt.(German sales tax)

My result is Euro 24 858,80

Expecting Your statement

Stefan

Lucas · 12-29-2002, 10:19 AM

Stefan :

1.
I see your point

. And nobody said anything about anybody beeing stupid.

But you are writing on a " VERY " American board and even international board.
Then another time, just write incl. German VAT if you give out prices, then we all know what you are talking about.

Should I give out prices incl. Danish sales tax which is 25%, who
should benefit from that ???

A S 500 with not too many extras here in Denmark, cost €/$ 300.000,00 incl. tax, what can you use that information for, other
than, good I am not living there.

Tax or VAT is your local " PROBLEM ", live with it or do something about it.
I stay in Denmark because of the nice weather and the worlds highest taxes.

.

What's your excuse for staying in Germany ???

2.

Where I right about the TÜV, or am I stupid.

V8 forever · 12-29-2002, 12:14 PM

I originally posted , quote:
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The Kleemann-Kompressor for the CLK 55 - including installation in Brüggen costs Euro 25 000,- like I was offered by Kleemann Germany.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
This is the amount of money I have to pay after installation according to the bill which i would receive. I see nothing wrong to calculate with this sum.

The reason for living here or there should not be discussed here, btw. I lived in US too.

I am convinced that Kleemann has an exemption from the TÜV to install the wheels they offer.
The local authorities would only accept a AMG-Approved combination of wheels and tires, like I was told recently.

That is my knowledge,I did my homework well, as You should do when posting about another country where You are not living in.

Stefan

Lucas · 12-29-2002, 03:54 PM

Stefan :

1.

I can't see why you post a price nobody else can use, because you don't write incl. 16% German tax.
Then later be pissed off because I tell you the price is wrong, if it's
incl. VAT you where right, if it was excl. you where wrong.
So to me incl. or excl. local tax in a price written in an international forum is quite important.

2.

Sorry to piss you off again, but you have done a poor home work,
or the person you have asked should put a sock in it.

AMG is the only company who can sell a wheel/tire combination with a TÜV approval in Germany, is that what you are posting and claim is good home work.

So your claim is, KLEEMANN, BRABUS, CARLSSON, MAE, ect.ect.
don't have a TÜV on their wheels and don't have a TÜV for the application on the specific car.

I am close to use the word stupid now, but I will try and calm my self down.

I can promise you these companies use millions in TÜV approving their parts and each specific application. No matter what you change on a car in Germany, with more or less the exception from the floor matt's, has to have a TÜV approval, and be written in the Fahrzeugbreif, with manufactor, part number, ect.ect.
If the car is in an accident and it have a part on it without TÜV or written in the paper, there is simply no insurance on the car.

Every KLEEMANN part on my S class, compressor, brakes, spoilers
exhaust, wheels, steering wheel, body lowering, ect.ect. have a TÜV teilgutachten.

Nobody can work with an exemption in Germany, eather you have the TÜV and can sell or you don't.

Speak to some people who knows what they are talking about, and have a happy new year.

V8 forever · 12-30-2002, 04:24 AM

Quote:

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Speak to some people who knows what they are talking about, and have a happy new year.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Why bother other people when You know it all ?
Thank You for the lesson.

And have a happy new year too

Stefan

Lucas · 12-30-2002, 06:20 AM

No,problem

Brandon @ Kleemann · 12-30-2002, 12:23 PM

In any event.....

In the USA you will not get these limited production AMG cars. The CLK, G and ML will have standard (albeit slightly improved HP/TQ) N/A 55 engines.

Im sure one could find a way to import such a car once it was available (If it even comes). The premium you would pay is to the moon and back. Why not buy the 500 the way you want it here and then let KLEEMANN build you a personalized killer?

Anybody can buy what AMG sells- whats special about that?

12-14-2002, 09:37 PM	#3
tango Super Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: vancouver Posts: 912	so are they going to have two versions of the clk55? __________________ Merry X'mas and a Happy New Year

12-14-2002, 11:59 PM	#4
jco-amg Super Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NY Posts: 603 Drives: ML 500 Sport	I bet we will not see it the US. I am watching the DTM A.1 race right now and you know the 209 CLK looks really good in DTM dress...very slippery...Alesi is leading...Race over...fantastic finish....1 Fassler 2 Schneider 3 Alesi all MB's!! Schneider went from 7th to 2nd in two laps...awesome! __________________ 2000 CLK 430 Silver...passed along 2001 CLK 55 AMG/RS Black...passed along 2002 ML 500 Sport Capri Blue 2005 Magnum RT on it's way! 2005 SL 55 AMG on order!

12-16-2002, 06:41 AM	#6
IanPooley Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Munich, Germany Posts: 204 Drives: Schrempps C 32 AMG	Hi, i sawthis from a special AMG report in the TV. This is only a limited edition. We have things like that here in germany - maybe you not __________________ iP!! Car: Jürgen Schrempp´s C 32 AMG -=[Go Fast - Drive Safe]=-

12-17-2002, 04:10 AM	#8
FrankW Out Of Control!! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Diamond Bar, CA Posts: 19,294 Drives: DirtyToo & Thrifty	It's probably going to be the Special Vehicle from AMG only offered in Europe. Like the C32 AMG sports coupe and the past C55, S63, etc. If a CLK55 AMG cost around $70k-80k, the CLK55 with kompressor could be near $90-100k. __________________ 2002 W203 M112K with insane amount of mods "new pic on last page" 2008 W204 M272 with not so much mods. wants 307hp 7200 redline engine from SL350 For Sale:authentic Carlsson exhaust tips (2) $200

12-17-2002, 06:22 AM	#9
IanPooley Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Munich, Germany Posts: 204 Drives: Schrempps C 32 AMG	Oh my god... you have no C 32 sportscoupe in the US? No C 55??? LOL.... Every german automobile manufacturer makes cars for the european market first. After that they are procuding other versions for the US market and the last step is to export cars to the arabic states like dubai. The special versions of some cars like the CLK GTR (612 HP) from LeMans are always exported to the arabic market. They pay very well... __________________ iP!! Car: Jürgen Schrempp´s C 32 AMG -=[Go Fast - Drive Safe]=-

12-14-2002, 09:55 AM	#2
Tezta MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hong Kong / Jakarta Posts: 3,233 Drives: CLS350	That would be a smart move for MB.

12-15-2002, 10:38 PM	#5
amg55 Super Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 764	The MB website says 368 hp for W209CLK55. You mean you've heard that an even more limited run will have the 469-500 hp supercharged engine? Why would AMG run 2 separate engines through for the same model? That would require an entire overhaul of the suspension, settings, dynamics etc, all for a very few cars. Would not be a profitable move, I'd have to guess. No precedent for this, either. Where did you hear this?

12-16-2002, 08:19 PM	#7
Caliz_Finest Super Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 756	germany kicks ass

12-18-2002, 01:55 AM	#10
FrankW Out Of Control!! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Diamond Bar, CA Posts: 19,294 Drives: DirtyToo & Thrifty	nope...we don't get any of the special vehicle from AMG in the US. Unless you got tons of cash. __________________ 2002 W203 M112K with insane amount of mods "new pic on last page" 2008 W204 M272 with not so much mods. wants 307hp 7200 redline engine from SL350 For Sale:authentic Carlsson exhaust tips (2) $200

12-18-2002, 09:07 AM	#13
IanPooley Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Munich, Germany Posts: 204 Drives: Schrempps C 32 AMG	Kleeman supercharger for the 5,5 liter engine: 18.000 euro. Have Phun.... __________________ iP!! Car: Jürgen Schrempp´s C 32 AMG -=[Go Fast - Drive Safe]=-

12-23-2002, 05:22 AM	#15
IanPooley Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Munich, Germany Posts: 204 Drives: Schrempps C 32 AMG	HI, the SL 55 AMG F1 and the SLR F1 have ceramic brakes too __________________ iP!! Car: Jürgen Schrempp´s C 32 AMG -=[Go Fast - Drive Safe]=-

12-23-2002, 05:25 AM	#16
FrankW Out Of Control!! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Diamond Bar, CA Posts: 19,294 Drives: DirtyToo & Thrifty	aren't the AMG F1 model only for pace car use in the F1? __________________ 2002 W203 M112K with insane amount of mods "new pic on last page" 2008 W204 M272 with not so much mods. wants 307hp 7200 redline engine from SL350 For Sale:authentic Carlsson exhaust tips (2) $200

12-28-2002, 12:43 PM	#17
V8 forever Almost a Member! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 61 Drives: CLK 55 AMG March 2000	The Kleemann-Kompressor for the CLK 55 - including installation in Brüggen costs Euro 25 000,- like I was offered by Kleemann Germany. Then You would need wider and bigger tires too, I dont know exactly the Kleemanns price for it. AMG offered me to have new rims, tires in 18 inch for about Euro 4000,-, including eventually necessary work on the body. The work would be done at AMG- Affalterbach. But the most important thing :This rim and tire change would be legal, documented in the registration. Our technical surveillance agency here (TÜV) told me that they wont except anything else than AMG-approved alterations at this car. Stefan

12-28-2002, 01:44 PM	#18
Lucas Super Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 529	V8 forever : You are wrong, please sometimes do your homework before you post to the whole world false information. 1. The approx. € 25.000,00 is not the price for the CLK, it's the price for the new 640 HP version for the new 55 with compressor from AMG, like SL, CL, S and E 55. We all know that the new 209 CLK is the " normal " aspirated 5,5 engine, so the price is approx. € 21.000,00 for 562 HP / 718 NM. 2. Ofcause all Kleemann parts comes with TÜV, and all mods. will be written in your " Fahrzeugbreif ", without TÜV on the products, KLEEMANN or anybody else would leave the customer without insurance on the car in case of an accident. So you can bring your 209 to KLEEMANN GmbH and have 19" or 20" with all TÜV approvals in your papers. 18" !!!! isn't that a size real men use for winter tires. :p :p :p

12-29-2002, 07:23 AM	#19
V8 forever Almost a Member! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 61 Drives: CLK 55 AMG March 2000	Lucas, I am new at this forum but I am not stupid, neither I want to provide false informations.E-Mail from Mr.Kristensen ,Oktober 2002 : Quote: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sehr Geehrter Herr Heringer Wir bedanken uns für Ihr Interesse an unseren Veredlungsprodukten für Mercedes Benz. Die Leistung und Preisgestaltung für Ihren Mercedes CLK 55 AMG ist wie folgt: Kleemann CLK 55 K 404KW/ 550 PS und 710 NM. Basis CLK 55 AMG Preis: € 21.430,- Zzgl. 16% Mwst Inkl. Einbau, inkl. 12 Monate Garantie Dauer: Für den reinen Kompressor Einbau 3 – 4 Tage. Hinterachstraktion: Empfehlenswert wäre breitere Reifen! Welche Reifenbreite fahren sie Im Moment? Ich würde Sie auch gerne gleichzeitig zu einer Probefahrt einladen, wenn Sie zeit und lust haben Mal nach Brüggen zu kommen. Würde mich sehr freuen. Wenn Sie weitere Fragen haben sind Sie jederzeit herzlich willkommen mich zu kontaktieren mations. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So take a calculator and do the following addition : Euro 21 430,- plus 16 % MWSt.(German sales tax) My result is Euro 24 858,80 Expecting Your statement Stefan

12-29-2002, 10:19 AM	#20
Lucas Super Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 529	Stefan : 1. I see your point . And nobody said anything about anybody beeing stupid. But you are writing on a " VERY " American board and even international board. Then another time, just write incl. German VAT if you give out prices, then we all know what you are talking about. Should I give out prices incl. Danish sales tax which is 25%, who should benefit from that ??? A S 500 with not too many extras here in Denmark, cost €/$ 300.000,00 incl. tax, what can you use that information for, other than, good I am not living there. Tax or VAT is your local " PROBLEM ", live with it or do something about it. I stay in Denmark because of the nice weather and the worlds highest taxes. . What's your excuse for staying in Germany ??? 2. Where I right about the TÜV, or am I stupid.

12-29-2002, 12:14 PM	#21
V8 forever Almost a Member! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 61 Drives: CLK 55 AMG March 2000	I originally posted , quote: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Kleemann-Kompressor for the CLK 55 - including installation in Brüggen costs Euro 25 000,- like I was offered by Kleemann Germany. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the amount of money I have to pay after installation according to the bill which i would receive. I see nothing wrong to calculate with this sum. The reason for living here or there should not be discussed here, btw. I lived in US too. I am convinced that Kleemann has an exemption from the TÜV to install the wheels they offer. The local authorities would only accept a AMG-Approved combination of wheels and tires, like I was told recently. That is my knowledge,I did my homework well, as You should do when posting about another country where You are not living in. Stefan

12-29-2002, 03:54 PM	#22
Lucas Super Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 529	Stefan : 1. I can't see why you post a price nobody else can use, because you don't write incl. 16% German tax. Then later be pissed off because I tell you the price is wrong, if it's incl. VAT you where right, if it was excl. you where wrong. So to me incl. or excl. local tax in a price written in an international forum is quite important. 2. Sorry to piss you off again, but you have done a poor home work, or the person you have asked should put a sock in it. AMG is the only company who can sell a wheel/tire combination with a TÜV approval in Germany, is that what you are posting and claim is good home work. So your claim is, KLEEMANN, BRABUS, CARLSSON, MAE, ect.ect. don't have a TÜV on their wheels and don't have a TÜV for the application on the specific car. I am close to use the word stupid now, but I will try and calm my self down. I can promise you these companies use millions in TÜV approving their parts and each specific application. No matter what you change on a car in Germany, with more or less the exception from the floor matt's, has to have a TÜV approval, and be written in the Fahrzeugbreif, with manufactor, part number, ect.ect. If the car is in an accident and it have a part on it without TÜV or written in the paper, there is simply no insurance on the car. Every KLEEMANN part on my S class, compressor, brakes, spoilers exhaust, wheels, steering wheel, body lowering, ect.ect. have a TÜV teilgutachten. Nobody can work with an exemption in Germany, eather you have the TÜV and can sell or you don't. Speak to some people who knows what they are talking about, and have a happy new year.

12-30-2002, 04:24 AM	#23
V8 forever Almost a Member! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 61 Drives: CLK 55 AMG March 2000	Quote: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Speak to some people who knows what they are talking about, and have a happy new year. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Why bother other people when You know it all ? Thank You for the lesson. And have a happy new year too Stefan

12-30-2002, 06:20 AM	#24
Lucas Super Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 529	No,problem

12-30-2002, 12:23 PM	#25
Brandon @ Kleemann PLATINUM SPONSOR Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 930	Back to the thread In any event..... In the USA you will not get these limited production AMG cars. The CLK, G and ML will have standard (albeit slightly improved HP/TQ) N/A 55 engines. Im sure one could find a way to import such a car once it was available (If it even comes). The premium you would pay is to the moon and back. Why not buy the 500 the way you want it here and then let KLEEMANN build you a personalized killer? Anybody can buy what AMG sells- whats special about that?

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