Best drop, suspension - springs - Coilovers

FatTony001 · 01-09-2009, 11:47 AM

I want to drop, lower my 2005 CLK 55 AMG

I don't want to slam it to the ground, I want a nice drop with the best
ride quality.

Soo Springs or coilvers, that is the question...

From my past experience coilovers are the way to go, but that was with my
last car. Maybe the choise is different with a MB

Coilovers generaly goes for 1,500$
Springs goes for 400$

Is the ride quality with coilovers worth the extra 1,100$ ??

Because I really like the stock suspension on my car, I don't really want
to change it that much, I just want it lower.

What's the best way to do that with an AMG ?

If the answer is spring: what company and model ??
If it's coilovers : what company and model ?

If you have experience with a product, please state you car's model and year

thanks if you guy can help me out here.

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FastDonzi · 01-09-2009, 12:32 PM

i have h&r on mine now. i paid $550 installed.i think the tein basics cost around $1200. in my opinion, if you have the money, get the coilovers .you will be able to fine tune the ride height.

CLK Masters · 01-09-2009, 01:06 PM

go for springs, i picked up some H&R springs for about 250. and installed them myself, since you have a AMG to begin with, ride quality is going to be the same but about a inch drop.

Chappy · 01-09-2009, 02:37 PM

If I owned a W209/55, I would strongly consider a set of PSS9s (Bilstein).

Otherwise, you can retain the stock feel by ordering a set of euro-spec springs. Check with "Stiggs" on the part numbers. He had a set he ordered and subsequently sold a while back.

Good luck.

AMGOODNESS · 01-09-2009, 08:36 PM

i prefer coilovers but you will have to run spacers if you go this route. expect to spend about $2000 for coilovers, $200 for the spacers, and about $50 for longer wheel bolts. this is definitley not the cheapest route to go lower. you may want to stick with the springs.

SMP · 01-09-2009, 09:52 PM

I would go with coil overs and choose KW's for their easy adjustability. You will not only be able to play with the ride height, but also with damper settings like compression and rebound. By getting rid of the struts, you'll also lower the unsprung weight which in return improves ride quality.

FatTony001 · 01-12-2009, 03:44 PM

hummm tof decision here, not all on the same side.

last question is:

if I decide to go with the H&R springs which is the brand that all recommand
will lower about 1" ( what I want) : will I need to change my shocks
in 1 year? remember a have an AMG
(not sure if that changes anything s the standard MB)

s4avt · 01-12-2009, 05:33 PM

Not in my case,

but I rarely drive my car...

Quote:

Originally Posted by FatTony001

hummm tof decision here, not all on the same side.

last question is:

if I decide to go with the H&R springs which is what all recommand
will lower about 1" ( what I want) : will I need to change my shocks
in 1 year? remember a have an AMG
(not sure if that changes anything s the standard MB)

GiZzO · 01-12-2009, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FatTony001

hummm tof decision here, not all on the same side.

last question is:

if I decide to go with the H&R springs which is what all recommand
will lower about 1" ( what I want) : will I need to change my shocks
in 1 year? remember a have an AMG
(not sure if that changes anything s the standard MB)

Might as well replace the shocks as well, you'll be more satisfied of the out come of your spring setup. Koni or Bilstein, your car has Bilsteins right now but OEM comforts far different then after market Sports and HD. Most ppl will say Konis are better its down to personal preference both are great.

iikillali · 01-15-2009, 03:24 AM

what about D2 coilover any one install it ?

Ol'School · 01-19-2009, 07:19 AM

ahem, all this time I thought coil overs were actually springs

.. so what are coil overs ... ?

apologies to OP ..

and TIA ..

M-bENZ · 01-19-2009, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ol'School

ahem, all this time I thought coil overs were actually springs

.. so what are coil overs ... ?

apologies to OP ..

and TIA ..

lol coil overs = easy adjustability. You will be able to play with the ride height.

Ol'School · 01-19-2009, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M-bENZ

lol coil overs = easy adjustability. You will be able to play with the ride height.

so basically an adjustable set of springs and dampers ?

M-bENZ · 01-19-2009, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ol'School

so basically an adjustable set of springs and dampers ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coilover

iikillali · 03-22-2009, 09:52 PM

i found out the kw coilover is the best for the w209 amg ~ go for it!

M-bENZ · 03-22-2009, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iikillali

i found out the kw coilover is the best for the w209 amg ~ go for it!

Hey I can see from your sig that u have HID kit on your fog light right ?? wonder is that giving u any error when u turn it on or did use any error canceller ??

Thanks,

Andy

iikillali · 03-23-2009, 12:21 PM

It doesn't have the error message.. go to ebay and search for mtec.. or search for seller mtecpower.. pretty good seller and quick response..

AMGOODNESS · 03-26-2009, 09:16 PM

Go with KW coilovers and call it a day. You will need some spacers but it is well worth it.

SoCalCLK · 03-27-2009, 12:19 AM

If you do decide to go with springs only, the H&Rs are great, but a bit more aggressive in the lowering than say, an Eibach spring. For coilovers, KWs are great.

neilbo75 · 03-30-2009, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMGOODNESS

i prefer coilovers but you will have to run spacers if you go this route. expect to spend about $2000 for coilovers, $200 for the spacers, and about $50 for longer wheel bolts. this is definitley not the cheapest route to go lower. you may want to stick with the springs.

How big the spacers? Both axles? Otherwise it hits or rubs? I was thinking of going with the KW coilovers but as I am running R129 "aero" 18 inch AMG rims 8.5 inch F and 10 inch R they are already 25mm outboard. Spacers up front do not look possible short of major fender mods. Rear I could probably manage 10mm in a pinch. What do you guys think?

AMGOODNESS · 03-31-2009, 04:35 PM

if that is the case up front do not buy the coilovers. you need spacers up front to clear the perch on the coilovers. i run spacers in the rear just because i wanted the perfect stance. my wheels are 8.5f and 9.5r. i think i am running 10's up front and 15's out back.

neilbo75 · 04-01-2009, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMGOODNESS

if that is the case up front do not buy the coilovers. you need spacers up front to clear the perch on the coilovers. i run spacers in the rear just because i wanted the perfect stance. my wheels are 8.5f and 9.5r. i think i am running 10's up front and 15's out back.

Thanks for the info. What is your offset on the 8.5s? I notice you have a 209 CLK. Do you or anyone else know if the situation changes for a 208?

Fastgreek · 04-01-2009, 10:22 PM

kw coil overs

AMGOODNESS · 04-02-2009, 08:50 PM

checked my paperwork and i actually have 8.0 up front and 9.5 in the rear. offsets are +34 front and +35 rear. i had to add a 7 or 10mm spacer up front to clear the coilover perch. i added a 15mm spacer in the rear. in the rear you could go with a much lower offset. the W209 from the factory has +37 front and +30 rear.

i am not sure if the W208 is similar or not.

SoCalCLK · 04-02-2009, 09:46 PM

Great advice, really spot on. I second that, go with 10mm spacers up front and 16mm spacers in the rear.

01-09-2009, 01:06 PM	#3
CLK Masters Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: orlando, florida. Dr.Phillips, UCF Posts: 195 Drives: 04 CLK 500, 07 GSX-R 750, S 550 (families)	go for springs, i picked up some H&R springs for about 250. and installed them myself, since you have a AMG to begin with, ride quality is going to be the same but about a inch drop. __________________ 04 CLK 500 Brillant Silver, Xenon, sunroof/rear sunshade, Ash Interior. Mods: 21% tint AMG 55K Intake & K&N Filters QTP Electric Cut-Out Secondary Cat removal 6000k Fog Lights Minor weight Reduction H&R Springs Carlsson Front Lip, AMG Lip Spoiler. 2, 10's @ 800 watts RMS each, just a little thump. PA System, for yelling at dumb Mercedes Drivers.

01-09-2009, 02:37 PM	#4
Chappy MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Hotlanta Posts: 7,887 Drives: AMG	If I owned a W209/55, I would strongly consider a set of PSS9s (Bilstein). Otherwise, you can retain the stock feel by ordering a set of euro-spec springs. Check with "Stiggs" on the part numbers. He had a set he ordered and subsequently sold a while back. Good luck. __________________ W208 CLK55 - 2002 (Silver w/Charcoal - 43K miles) 1 of 3,381 W208 AMG Coupes Worldwide 304WHP / 321TQ - Stock! W124 Estate - 1995 MBWGCM #71 Kombi's Uber Alles Member #3

01-09-2009, 09:52 PM	#6
SMP Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Manhattan Beach, CA Posts: 179 Drives: 08 MB CLK 63 black series, 09 BMW M6, 06 BMW X5 4.8iS, 06 MB SL 500	I would go with coil overs and choose KW's for their easy adjustability. You will not only be able to play with the ride height, but also with damper settings like compression and rebound. By getting rid of the struts, you'll also lower the unsprung weight which in return improves ride quality. __________________ 08 CLK63 BS 09 M6 06 X5 4.8is 06 SL500

01-12-2009, 03:44 PM	#7
FatTony001 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 279 Drives: CLK 55 AMG 2005 and CLK 63 AMG cab.2007	hummm tof decision here, not all on the same side. last question is: if I decide to go with the H&R springs which is the brand that all recommand will lower about 1" ( what I want) : will I need to change my shocks in 1 year? remember a have an AMG (not sure if that changes anything s the standard MB) __________________ CLK 55 AMG 2005 and CLK 63 AMG cab.2007 Last edited by FatTony001; 01-14-2009 at 11:50 AM.

03-22-2009, 09:52 PM	#15
iikillali Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 61 Drives: CLK55 AMG	i found out the kw coilover is the best for the w209 amg ~ go for it! __________________ 03 CLK 55 AMG 19" Iforged Daytona Gloss 2 Pieces H&R Spring Bilstein Suspension PIAA Tera 6500k LED city light 8000k McCulloch hid kit Low Beam 8000k McCulloch hid kit Fog Light

01-09-2009, 12:32 PM	#2
FastDonzi Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: NJ,USA Posts: 277 Drives: '03 clk500,'03expedition,R6,R1,ducati999,22'Donzi	i have h&r on mine now. i paid $550 installed.i think the tein basics cost around $1200. in my opinion, if you have the money, get the coilovers .you will be able to fine tune the ride height.

01-09-2009, 08:36 PM	#5
AMGOODNESS Super Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sparks, NV Posts: 613 Drives: 03 CLK 55 AMG, IMCO muffler/Magnaflow tips, KW V1 coilovers, 19" Petrol Metrix Wheels	i prefer coilovers but you will have to run spacers if you go this route. expect to spend about $2000 for coilovers, $200 for the spacers, and about $50 for longer wheel bolts. this is definitley not the cheapest route to go lower. you may want to stick with the springs.

01-15-2009, 03:24 AM	#10
iikillali Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 61 Drives: CLK55 AMG	what about D2 coilover any one install it ?

01-19-2009, 07:19 AM	#11
Ol'School Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 237 Drives: somethings better left unsaid ...	ahem, all this time I thought coil overs were actually springs .. so what are coil overs ... ? apologies to OP .. and TIA ..

03-23-2009, 12:21 PM	#17
iikillali Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 61 Drives: CLK55 AMG	It doesn't have the error message.. go to ebay and search for mtec.. or search for seller mtecpower.. pretty good seller and quick response.. __________________ 03 CLK 55 AMG 19" Iforged Daytona Gloss 2 Pieces H&R Spring Bilstein Suspension PIAA Tera 6500k LED city light 8000k McCulloch hid kit Low Beam 8000k McCulloch hid kit Fog Light

03-26-2009, 09:16 PM	#18
AMGOODNESS Super Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sparks, NV Posts: 613 Drives: 03 CLK 55 AMG, IMCO muffler/Magnaflow tips, KW V1 coilovers, 19" Petrol Metrix Wheels	Go with KW coilovers and call it a day. You will need some spacers but it is well worth it. __________________ $C:\Documents and Settings\lhill\My Documents\My Documents\Leo's Files\personal pics files\AMG RAYS F DRIVER VIEW.JPG$

03-27-2009, 12:19 AM	#19
SoCalCLK MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 2,628 Drives: 2004 CLK55 AMG	If you do decide to go with springs only, the H&Rs are great, but a bit more aggressive in the lowering than say, an Eibach spring. For coilovers, KWs are great. __________________ W209 CLK55 AMG \| 19" BRABUS Mono VI 2-piece \| BRABUS Suspension \| BRABUS Door pins Sig thanks to Shake!

03-31-2009, 04:35 PM	#21
AMGOODNESS Super Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sparks, NV Posts: 613 Drives: 03 CLK 55 AMG, IMCO muffler/Magnaflow tips, KW V1 coilovers, 19" Petrol Metrix Wheels	if that is the case up front do not buy the coilovers. you need spacers up front to clear the perch on the coilovers. i run spacers in the rear just because i wanted the perfect stance. my wheels are 8.5f and 9.5r. i think i am running 10's up front and 15's out back. __________________ $C:\Documents and Settings\lhill\My Documents\My Documents\Leo's Files\personal pics files\AMG RAYS F DRIVER VIEW.JPG$

04-01-2009, 10:22 PM	#23
Fastgreek Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Macungie, Pa Posts: 299 Drives: 01 E320,04 Duramax , 87 Buick Gn, 89 Turbo TA,	kw coil overs __________________

04-02-2009, 08:50 PM	#24
AMGOODNESS Super Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sparks, NV Posts: 613 Drives: 03 CLK 55 AMG, IMCO muffler/Magnaflow tips, KW V1 coilovers, 19" Petrol Metrix Wheels	checked my paperwork and i actually have 8.0 up front and 9.5 in the rear. offsets are +34 front and +35 rear. i had to add a 7 or 10mm spacer up front to clear the coilover perch. i added a 15mm spacer in the rear. in the rear you could go with a much lower offset. the W209 from the factory has +37 front and +30 rear. i am not sure if the W208 is similar or not. __________________ $C:\Documents and Settings\lhill\My Documents\My Documents\Leo's Files\personal pics files\AMG RAYS F DRIVER VIEW.JPG$

04-02-2009, 09:46 PM	#25
SoCalCLK MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 2,628 Drives: 2004 CLK55 AMG	Great advice, really spot on. I second that, go with 10mm spacers up front and 16mm spacers in the rear. __________________ W209 CLK55 AMG \| 19" BRABUS Mono VI 2-piece \| BRABUS Suspension \| BRABUS Door pins Sig thanks to Shake!

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