Car won't start

Stiggs · 05-26-2009, 11:37 AM

My CLK55 is sitting dead in my garage right now. Battery is fine since everything lights up.It keeps cranking and cranking but won't fire. Tried about five times. Called dealership and they think it might be a fuel problem like the fuel pump. Having it flatbedded to the dealership soon.

My car only has 43K miles. Sure its six years old but a bad fuel pump with so few miles? I have a bad feeling this is gonna cost me some big bucks.

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MarcusF · 05-26-2009, 12:44 PM

It could be anything, but I'm betting the CPS is dead. It's common and cheap (cheap being my favorite). One way to check is to grab a timing light and have someone else crank it. If the timing light doesn't illuminate, there's no spark. No spark is probably the CPS. If I remember how Bosch ME works, a dead CPS also kills the injectors. Without knowing the crankshaft position (or more correctly, thinking that it's stopped), there's no injector timing.

Oh well, back to work. Post what the dealer finds. I need something to break up a dull Tuesday.

Chappy · 05-27-2009, 08:28 AM

Wow - Stiggs.....hope it turns out to be inexpensive!

Stiggs · 05-27-2009, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by MarcusF

It could be anything, but I'm betting the CPS is dead. It's common and cheap (cheap being my favorite). One way to check is to grab a timing light and have someone else crank it. If the timing light doesn't illuminate, there's no spark. No spark is probably the CPS. If I remember how Bosch ME works, a dead CPS also kills the injectors. Without knowing the crankshaft position (or more correctly, thinking that it's stopped), there's no injector timing.

Oh well, back to work. Post what the dealer finds. I need something to break up a dull Tuesday.

I'm hoping its that. Will find out later today.

Stiggs · 05-27-2009, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Chappy

Wow - Stiggs.....hope it turns out to be inexpensive!

You're telling me!
Thanks man.

C43AMG · 05-27-2009, 10:16 AM

6 ys-43k miles...along with changing the CPS, get the fuel filter changed out too.

M-bENZ · 05-27-2009, 11:22 AM

damn ya make me wana go home and change the fuel filter right now.

Andy

SoCalCLK · 05-27-2009, 01:21 PM

Keep us posted, buddy. Hope it is an easy fix. If you do have to take it to the dealer, be sure and call MBUSA via the 800 line, and have a case manager also work on it and talk to the dealer about reducing the price of the service, since you are still under 50K, even though no longer in warranty.

black-clk500 · 05-27-2009, 08:20 PM

probably fuel pump--I just had one replaced on my 2005 CLK500 at 24,000 miles. I think it's from me going too low on a tank of gas (2-3 miles to empty) too many times--just a thought. Dealer had no opinion on what cause it--mine was under warrenty, but I saw the bill--it was like $700.

My car died on the highway as I was driving.

Chappy · 05-28-2009, 09:23 AM

Stiggs - don't keep us hanging bro!!

lychyrychy · 05-28-2009, 08:47 PM

Hope everything turns out ok!

Stiggs · 05-29-2009, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Chappy

Stiggs - don't keep us hanging bro!!

Sorry man.
Just got the car back today.
Here's what was written on the service sheet:

:Customer states Veh towed in due to a crank no start condition. Check and report. Tech verified complaint. Performed short test. No codes found. Tech performed fuel press and delivery test. Test found no fuel. Tech performed crank sensor test. Working okay. Check power & ground to fuel pumps. Found faulty. Check fuse and relay. Fuse stuck open. Replaced relay. During test found seating ring for MAF not seating properly. Replaced seal. Also performed fuel system flush to get rid of old fuel. Tech found yellow coming out of fuel port. Veh starting fine now."
A48 5664 $157.43
Fuel service $49.95
Gasket $6.08
Relay $19.50

So I guess I got away cheap this time.

I'm just happy my car starts now.

Stiggs · 05-29-2009, 08:22 PM

Not sure what the heck that yellow stuff was coming out of the fuel port. Odd. Service girl had no clue what it was either.

Jons95c36amg · 05-29-2009, 09:55 PM

Good thing it was nothing big. The stealership gave you a break this time

GiZzO · 05-29-2009, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Stiggs

Not sure what the heck that yellow stuff was coming out of the fuel port. Odd. Service girl had no clue what it was either.

Dude your car has gonorrhea glad you got her checked out! My GF has that same confused look when i had her checked out.

SoCalCLK · 05-30-2009, 12:13 PM

Glad to hear you got it fixed, and it didn't cost that much!

Stiggs · 05-30-2009, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GiZzO

Dude your car has gonorrhea glad you got her checked out! My GF has that same confused look when i had her checked out.

Damn....maybe my car has been sleeping around with that Audi A8 next door. It is a hot car! Damn my slutty car. Oh well.

But seriously....I'd still like to know what the yellow stuff was?

Ronnieclk-500 · 05-31-2009, 01:04 PM

ghanderia my dude, ghanderia

rajramineni · 09-11-2009, 03:06 PM

My car wouldn't start ( have cranks). I tried like 10 times and didn't work. Then got out of the car waited for like 5 mins and then gave a crank and it worked. ( i know it sounds weird). But the bad thing is, i have a check engine light now.

Any ideas. I have 600 miles left to Service B.

thanks,
Raj

Akademiks · 09-11-2009, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rajramineni

My car wouldn't start ( have cranks). I tried like 10 times and didn't work. Then got out of the car waited for like 5 mins and then gave a crank and it worked. ( i know it sounds weird). But the bad thing is, i have a check engine light now.

Any ideas. I have 600 miles left to Service B.

thanks,
Raj

Eh... didn't realize this was such a common problem. I had the same thing happen awhile back... it's stopped for now... and the car works fine. I should probably get it checked regardless... You try, it don't work, give it break and go froggy again and it works...

C43AMG · 09-11-2009, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rajramineni

My car wouldn't start ( have cranks). I tried like 10 times and didn't work. Then got out of the car waited for like 5 mins and then gave a crank and it worked. ( i know it sounds weird). But the bad thing is, i have a check engine light now.

Any ideas. I have 600 miles left to Service B.

thanks,
Raj

cps - Crank Position Sensor.

Jason1000RR · 09-12-2009, 04:42 PM

My eClass randomly does the same thing, described exactly! Cool atleast now I know how much I'm looking to spend. Thank ya, sir!

Stiggs · 09-14-2009, 11:36 AM

With the fuel pump relay I could wait all I wanted...it wasn't starting. That may be how you can tell its the CPS.

05-26-2009, 12:44 PM	#2
MarcusF MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: SCV SoCal Posts: 1,471 Drives: FIA approved Pumas	It could be anything, but I'm betting the CPS is dead. It's common and cheap (cheap being my favorite). One way to check is to grab a timing light and have someone else crank it. If the timing light doesn't illuminate, there's no spark. No spark is probably the CPS. If I remember how Bosch ME works, a dead CPS also kills the injectors. Without knowing the crankshaft position (or more correctly, thinking that it's stopped), there's no injector timing. Oh well, back to work. Post what the dealer finds. I need something to break up a dull Tuesday. __________________ Mercedes-Benz spec page Signal to Noise Join the Mercedes-Benz Club of America here

05-27-2009, 08:28 AM	#3
Chappy MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Hotlanta Posts: 7,878 Drives: AMG	Wow - Stiggs.....hope it turns out to be inexpensive! __________________ W208 CLK55 - 2002 (Silver w/Charcoal - 43K miles) 1 of 3,381 W208 AMG Coupes Worldwide 304WHP / 321TQ - Stock! W124 Estate - 1995 MBWGCM #71 Kombi's Uber Alles Member #3

05-27-2009, 10:16 AM	#6
C43AMG MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: The Soprano State - NJ Posts: 5,078 Drives: 98 Black C43 , 00' C230K , 91 420SEL	6 ys-43k miles...along with changing the CPS, get the fuel filter changed out too. __________________ No engine , no badge

05-27-2009, 11:22 AM	#7
M-bENZ MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,015 Drives: 04 CLK 320 (Gone) , 01 GS 300 "Plat. Series", 05 CLK500	damn ya make me wana go home and change the fuel filter right now. Andy __________________

05-27-2009, 01:21 PM	#8
SoCalCLK MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 2,626 Drives: 2004 CLK55 AMG	Keep us posted, buddy. Hope it is an easy fix. If you do have to take it to the dealer, be sure and call MBUSA via the 800 line, and have a case manager also work on it and talk to the dealer about reducing the price of the service, since you are still under 50K, even though no longer in warranty. __________________ W209 CLK55 AMG \| 19" BRABUS Mono VI 2-piece \| BRABUS Suspension \| BRABUS Door pins Sig thanks to Shake!

05-27-2009, 08:20 PM	#9
black-clk500 Newbie Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 18 Drives: clk500	probably fuel pump--I just had one replaced on my 2005 CLK500 at 24,000 miles. I think it's from me going too low on a tank of gas (2-3 miles to empty) too many times--just a thought. Dealer had no opinion on what cause it--mine was under warrenty, but I saw the bill--it was like $700. My car died on the highway as I was driving.

05-28-2009, 09:23 AM	#10
Chappy MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Hotlanta Posts: 7,878 Drives: AMG	Stiggs - don't keep us hanging bro!! __________________ W208 CLK55 - 2002 (Silver w/Charcoal - 43K miles) 1 of 3,381 W208 AMG Coupes Worldwide 304WHP / 321TQ - Stock! W124 Estate - 1995 MBWGCM #71 Kombi's Uber Alles Member #3

05-28-2009, 08:47 PM	#11
lychyrychy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 283 Drives: clk55	Hope everything turns out ok!

05-29-2009, 08:22 PM	#13
Stiggs MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Connecticut Posts: 7,181 Drives: 2003 CLK55	Not sure what the heck that yellow stuff was coming out of the fuel port. Odd. Service girl had no clue what it was either. __________________ 1999 CLK430 Black/Black(Gone) 1999 ML430 Black Opal 2003 CLK55 Black/Black

05-29-2009, 09:55 PM	#14
Jons95c36amg MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Desert Posts: 1,520 Drives: 02 CLK 55 AMG,95 C36 AMG	Good thing it was nothing big. The stealership gave you a break this time __________________ 02 Clk55 bone stock time 2.1 60ft 13.1@108.6

05-30-2009, 12:13 PM	#16
SoCalCLK MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 2,626 Drives: 2004 CLK55 AMG	Glad to hear you got it fixed, and it didn't cost that much! __________________ W209 CLK55 AMG \| 19" BRABUS Mono VI 2-piece \| BRABUS Suspension \| BRABUS Door pins Sig thanks to Shake!

05-31-2009, 01:04 PM	#18
Ronnieclk-500 Newbie Join Date: May 2009 Location: ny Posts: 6 Drives: clk 500	;] ghanderia my dude, ghanderia

09-11-2009, 03:06 PM	#19
rajramineni Newbie Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 14 Drives: 2001 CLK 55 AMG	i have the same problem now My car wouldn't start ( have cranks). I tried like 10 times and didn't work. Then got out of the car waited for like 5 mins and then gave a crank and it worked. ( i know it sounds weird). But the bad thing is, i have a check engine light now. Any ideas. I have 600 miles left to Service B. thanks, Raj

09-12-2009, 04:42 PM	#22
Jason1000RR Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: California Posts: 27 Drives: women crazy.	My eClass randomly does the same thing, described exactly! Cool atleast now I know how much I'm looking to spend. Thank ya, sir! __________________ 1999 E320 2004 CLK55 2005 Honda CBR1000RR

09-14-2009, 11:36 AM	#23
Stiggs MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Connecticut Posts: 7,181 Drives: 2003 CLK55	With the fuel pump relay I could wait all I wanted...it wasn't starting. That may be how you can tell its the CPS. __________________ 1999 CLK430 Black/Black(Gone) 1999 ML430 Black Opal 2003 CLK55 Black/Black

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