definitive wheel fitment guide for w124 pdf

[munman_stk]

hi guys. im pretty much a newbie at this. had a look at the link V9 posted...the list did not include 18x8 ET 31, 18x9 ET 35 (AMGs). Would they fit the car? and is the 18x9 with that offset too wide for the rears? can i get away with rolling the fenders? i have a 1989 230E. Please help...

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[neanderthal]

Originally Posted by munman_stk

hi guys. im pretty much a newbie at this. had a look at the link V9 posted...the list did not include 18x8 ET 31, 18x9 ET 35 (AMGs).

Would they fit the car? and is the 18x9 with that offset too wide for the rears? can i get away with rolling the fenders?

i have a 1989 230E. Please help...

if the list doesnt include it, it pretty much precludes them being a direct fit, innit?

now, you could go look at the running gear thread and see if anyone is using that size and offset, and see if they are using a spacer or have rolled thier fenders or added spacers.

[AMGDave]

Just a reminder, everyone, that list is NOT complete and NOT comprehensive!!

The rear of a W124 can use wheels at least a half-inch wider than the fronts, but that is not shown in the list. And those wheels in the list wider than 8.5" are really for the 500E only (note the "wide wheelarch" comment).

In general on a standard (non-500E) W124, the max width possible without hassles is 8.0 front, 8.5 rear, with the proper offset & tire size (225 on a 7.5, 235 on an 8.0, 245 on a 8.5). Beyond that, you'll have clearance issues, especially on lowered cars, and/or when cornering hard, and it will be worse on 1990-up models with the wide side mouldings (will need to trim the wide moulding at the inside of the front fender).

The 18x8 and 18x9 wheels mentioned in the post above would require massive fender rolling (see the AMG docs I linked to above) and also the fender spacer kit shown in the photo above. If you're thinking about making these work by fitting skinny little narrow tires, forget it. Just get smaller wheels if you're going to use smaller tires. Unless you want to look like a ricer or BMW, with "stretched" tires, lol....

[MB-boy]

THANKS!!!!!!!! AMGDave.

That is a beautifull resource. By the way, the front spacers are pretty clear but what about the back fender spacing. Any opinions,ideas or experince.

I have AMG Monoblocks 17/8.5 in the rear and stock shocks and springs and there is some serious rubbing in the back. (On hard curves and bumps).

Please, if someone can help, I would appreciate it alot!!!!!
Thanks

[AMGDave]

Originally Posted by MB-boy

By the way, the front spacers are pretty clear but what about the back fender spacing. Any opinions, ideas or experince.

I have AMG Monoblocks 17/8.5 in the rear and stock shocks and springs and there is some serious rubbing in the back. (On hard curves and bumps).

Please, if someone can help, I would appreciate it alot!!!!!

I don't believe there are any spacers available for the rear fender. But if you read the AMG wheel install document for 8.5" wheels on a 124 (click here), look at pages 9-11, particularly sections 4.1 and 5. That shows the rear fender getting moved out (4.1), and also the fender lip getting fully rolled (5). It's also possible you have the wrong wheel offset and/or wrong tire size (you didn't mention what you have). If you haven't rolled the fender lips, that is the first thing I would do...

[MB-boy]

Thanks AMGDave.

Well in the back the tires are 245 40 17. What rubbs is the side of the profile with the fender lip.A little but enough.

I saw the procedures for the back fender spacing but I think its not correctly explaind. This is because it tells you only to cut 200mm in a straight line, but what about the inner panel? !!!!its also attached!!!!

I thought that this fender spaceing would make the car look a little different than usuall. Im thinking of doing this but there is that problem with the back fender. What do you think.

Thanks

[MB-boy]

Also, anybody have tips or opinions for good fender rolling.

Thanks

[AMGDave]

Yeah, I noticed the document was a little vague on exactly how to modify the rear fender! Strange, huh. I really am not sure what they're trying to do there. Your 245 tire isn't bad on the rear, I think with a proper fender roll it should work ok. The nicest unit I know of is the Eastwood tool, click here for more information on it... you might be able to rent one from a forum member? (I don't have one, sorry!)

[MB-boy]

Jajaja Wierd isnt it. Well thanks AMGDave. Im going to be rolling the fenders and then lowering the car. I think that will fix up the problem. Well about renting the tool... Im a little far from the US. I live in Europe so im going to have to build one. Looks easy, so no big deal about that.

About the rear fender spacing... I think the procedure should be rivised before anybody tries to do it that way (It dosnt look correct).

If anybody knows how to do it correctly, please post the procedures and some fotos. It will be very helpfull for alot of people.

Thanks

[SirTweakAlot]

This wheel package will be hard to duplicate.

I wonder if their AMG or Brabus

[STLe320]

Don't post that in this thread. You already made a thread for it, and honestly there was no significant point to that either. This is to help people, not to try and be funny..

[CakeDaddy]

Can someone throw me a bone on 225/40 18x8 et42 offset for the w124 (e420). Will they fit without issues?

[YNVDIZW124]

^^ Yes, you might want to run a 3mm spacer but you don't really need to.

[romeovictrbravo]

How thick is the suspension stop washer that is supposed to limit the upward movement ?

[AMGDave]

Originally Posted by CakeDaddy

Can someone throw me a bone on 225/40 18x8 et42 offset for the w124 (e420). Will they fit without issues?

The wheel will be very close to the front strut on the inside. I'd run 235 tires on an 8-inch wheel... if you lay a straightedge across the face, it will touch the wheel before the tire with 225's (unless they have a "rim protector" design). Shouldn't be any problems in the rear. But you will probably need to roll the fender lips all around, and maybe install the fender spacers up front... I'd recommend reading this AMG document with more info.

[AMGDave]

Originally Posted by romeovictrbravo

How thick is the suspension stop washer that is supposed to limit the upward movement ?

[Saijin_Naib]

Are both the stop buffer and the travel limiter still available? Would these be beneficial in conjunction with H&R Sport Springs/Bilstein HD or Sport shocks or..?