need help

tootyte36 · 08-29-2009, 01:45 PM

my wipers don't work i tried to install a new wiper motor but they still don't come on when u hit the switch u can hear and feel a click on one of the relays.
Also when i'm slowing down my car wants to cut off it cut off on me once but started back up

i have a 98 E320 4 matic with 200.000 mil ther is also a rattle coming from the bottom of the car when i slow down or when i put it in park and rev it

please help drive smooth again

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ncd20 · 08-29-2009, 04:02 PM

just happen to know that the wiper is on the same fuse as the blinker system ... but it might have another fuse running that... you checked alll the fuses.
there is a batch of them in the normal under hood fusebox
some in the side of the dash under a plastic flap/cover
some under the back seat by the battery
and less relevantly the ones inside the fake AC box.. under the hood
just incase you missed any

tootyte36 · 08-30-2009, 09:25 AM

wow didnt know there were that many fuses in that car.There is a click coming from one of the relays when u put ur hand on it and turn the switch in side on u feel that click on the relay

i swaped the relays around and that didnt work

saintz · 08-30-2009, 12:56 PM

For the rattle and the stall, might be engine mounts. In theory I think bad mounts can cause a crank sensor (CPS) issue and stall the car out. Your CPS might also be bad.

tootyte36 · 08-30-2009, 02:12 PM

do u think maybe the cats are going out too

are the motor mounts hard to do

is tere a diy thread

saintz · 08-30-2009, 04:22 PM

If it's a rattle like marbles in a tin can, that can be your cats. They will make noise if you rev in park or when the car is decelerating.

Do you have a rough idle? Or a rough vibration when accelerating? That can be the engine mounts.

If your mounts are good, the stall could be just your CPS.

tootyte36 · 08-30-2009, 04:35 PM

no rough idle when i slow down or speed up it's smooth only when i rev it up sounds like rocks or something no vibration when i speed up well a little
but i think i need to rotate my tires

i think its the cats it has cut of on me once but stared right up

hasn't cut off sence

saintz · 08-30-2009, 04:40 PM

The rocks parts sound like cats, yeah.

Kieran28 · 08-30-2009, 06:52 PM

The cutting out could be the cats too... if the catalyst got lodged and blocked the exhaust flow. It would be weird for the car to start right up again though... plausible I suppose, if the catalyst dislodged as soon as the engine stopped.

tootyte36 · 08-31-2009, 08:31 AM

i was thinking of cutting of the cats a replacing them with after market ones not oem would any one recomend that or should i just replace the whole exhust with oem parts and oem cats

saintz · 08-31-2009, 09:38 AM

Definitely go aftermarket cats if you're not in Cali. It's less than half the price of OEM.

tootyte36 · 08-31-2009, 12:32 PM

yes i live in florida and dont have emissions checks will after market cats make my car sound louder

i want my exhust to be a little lauder but not like a rice rocket

any sugetions

maybe a muffler upgrade

or i could just cut the cats out run a pipe insted of cats will that be to loud

i hope thet takes care of the rattle

Kieran28 · 08-31-2009, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tootyte36

yes i live in florida and dont have emissions checks will after market cats make my car sound louder

i want my exhust to be a little lauder but not like a rice rocket

any sugetions

maybe a muffler upgrade

or i could just cut the cats out run a pipe insted of cats will that be to loud

i hope thet takes care of the rattle

Did you get under the car and inspect the exhaust pipes & cats? There's a bracket that clamps around both pipes just in front of the rear cats. If that pipe is loose at all, it rattles on the pipes and sounds JUST LIKE a rattling cat.

Also, do yourself, your neighbors, those driving near you, and the environment a big favor and keep quality cats and mufflers on your car.

tootyte36 · 08-31-2009, 02:13 PM

i will check for a lose clamp hope thats the problem

do u think if i install after market cats will make the car sound like a rice rocket

i dont mind if the exhust gets little louder i like clean air too

but dont like how rice rockets sound like.And if it sounds more like a v-8 then i would not mind that at all so what kind of after market cats does anyone recommend thank for all ur replys

Kieran28 · 08-31-2009, 02:45 PM

I don't know if different cats change the sound that much...

IMO you can't make a v6 sound like a v8. All v8's have a unique sound because they fundamentally have mod8 frequency modes. (not all v8's sound alike, but they all sound similar to each other in a way that is different from any other engine... likewise all v6's will have a similar characteristic sound). A v6 will always sound like a v6 to anyone who knows what to listen for. You can make it louder, you can muffle high frequencies more or muffle low frequencies more (changing the "color" of the sound) but you can't change the fundamental character of the sound, since it's still a v6... IMO.

saintz · 08-31-2009, 02:52 PM

Aftermarket cats will make no real difference in the sound. If you want a little more sound, try the x-pipe modification that removes the resonator.

tootyte36 · 09-01-2009, 09:53 AM

if i do that mod will it be really loud

i don't want it to loud

08-30-2009, 09:25 AM	#3
tootyte36 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: orlando Posts: 23 Drives: 1998 e320	wow didnt know there were that many fuses in that car.There is a click coming from one of the relays when u put ur hand on it and turn the switch in side on u feel that click on the relayi swaped the relays around and that didnt work

08-30-2009, 12:56 PM	#4
saintz Super Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 527 Drives: 2001 E55 AMG	For the rattle and the stall, might be engine mounts. In theory I think bad mounts can cause a crank sensor (CPS) issue and stall the car out. Your CPS might also be bad. __________________ 2001 E55 AMG, Renntech airbox, Lorinser LM5 wheels 1999 CLK 320 (sold)

08-30-2009, 02:12 PM	#5
tootyte36 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: orlando Posts: 23 Drives: 1998 e320	do u think maybe the cats are going out tooare the motor mounts hard to dois tere a diy thread

08-30-2009, 04:22 PM	#6
saintz Super Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 527 Drives: 2001 E55 AMG	If it's a rattle like marbles in a tin can, that can be your cats. They will make noise if you rev in park or when the car is decelerating. Do you have a rough idle? Or a rough vibration when accelerating? That can be the engine mounts. If your mounts are good, the stall could be just your CPS. __________________ 2001 E55 AMG, Renntech airbox, Lorinser LM5 wheels 1999 CLK 320 (sold)

08-30-2009, 04:40 PM	#8
saintz Super Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 527 Drives: 2001 E55 AMG	The rocks parts sound like cats, yeah. __________________ 2001 E55 AMG, Renntech airbox, Lorinser LM5 wheels 1999 CLK 320 (sold)

08-29-2009, 04:02 PM	#2
ncd20 Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 108 Drives: 2001 E320 Avant turbo diesel	just happen to know that the wiper is on the same fuse as the blinker system ... but it might have another fuse running that... you checked alll the fuses. there is a batch of them in the normal under hood fusebox some in the side of the dash under a plastic flap/cover some under the back seat by the battery and less relevantly the ones inside the fake AC box.. under the hood just incase you missed any

08-30-2009, 04:35 PM	#7
tootyte36 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: orlando Posts: 23 Drives: 1998 e320	no rough idle when i slow down or speed up it's smooth only when i rev it up sounds like rocks or something no vibration when i speed up well a little but i think i need to rotate my tires i think its the cats it has cut of on me once but stared right up hasn't cut off sence

08-30-2009, 06:52 PM	#9
Kieran28 Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Culver City, CA Posts: 160 Drives: 2003 e320 wagon (210 chassis NOT a 211))	The cutting out could be the cats too... if the catalyst got lodged and blocked the exhaust flow. It would be weird for the car to start right up again though... plausible I suppose, if the catalyst dislodged as soon as the engine stopped.

08-31-2009, 08:31 AM	#10
tootyte36 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: orlando Posts: 23 Drives: 1998 e320	i was thinking of cutting of the cats a replacing them with after market ones not oem would any one recomend that or should i just replace the whole exhust with oem parts and oem cats

08-31-2009, 09:38 AM	#11
saintz Super Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 527 Drives: 2001 E55 AMG	Definitely go aftermarket cats if you're not in Cali. It's less than half the price of OEM. __________________ 2001 E55 AMG, Renntech airbox, Lorinser LM5 wheels 1999 CLK 320 (sold)

08-31-2009, 12:32 PM	#12
tootyte36 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: orlando Posts: 23 Drives: 1998 e320	yes i live in florida and dont have emissions checks will after market cats make my car sound louderi want my exhust to be a little lauder but not like a rice rocket any sugetionsmaybe a muffler upgrade or i could just cut the cats out run a pipe insted of cats will that be to loudi hope thet takes care of the rattle

08-31-2009, 02:13 PM	#14
tootyte36 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: orlando Posts: 23 Drives: 1998 e320	i will check for a lose clamp hope thats the problemdo u think if i install after market cats will make the car sound like a rice rocket i dont mind if the exhust gets little louder i like clean air toobut dont like how rice rockets sound like.And if it sounds more like a v-8 then i would not mind that at all so what kind of after market cats does anyone recommend thank for all ur replys

08-31-2009, 02:45 PM	#15
Kieran28 Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Culver City, CA Posts: 160 Drives: 2003 e320 wagon (210 chassis NOT a 211))	I don't know if different cats change the sound that much... IMO you can't make a v6 sound like a v8. All v8's have a unique sound because they fundamentally have mod8 frequency modes. (not all v8's sound alike, but they all sound similar to each other in a way that is different from any other engine... likewise all v6's will have a similar characteristic sound). A v6 will always sound like a v6 to anyone who knows what to listen for. You can make it louder, you can muffle high frequencies more or muffle low frequencies more (changing the "color" of the sound) but you can't change the fundamental character of the sound, since it's still a v6... IMO.

08-31-2009, 02:52 PM	#16
saintz Super Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 527 Drives: 2001 E55 AMG	Aftermarket cats will make no real difference in the sound. If you want a little more sound, try the x-pipe modification that removes the resonator. __________________ 2001 E55 AMG, Renntech airbox, Lorinser LM5 wheels 1999 CLK 320 (sold)

09-01-2009, 09:53 AM	#17
tootyte36 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: orlando Posts: 23 Drives: 1998 e320	if i do that mod will it be really loud i don't want it to loud

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