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Old 10-31-2009, 10:34 AM   #51
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the germans designed it man read up on it
thats not quite correct either. They may have done the final refinement for homologation, but they didn't come up with the design.

Then again, who cares. Everybody knows the japanese build good engines.
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uuutttt oooooo. I think a huge debate is about to come out here. I am going to sit back and watch. People here seem to talk lagit so I cant wait to hear some good talk.
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Old 11-01-2009, 10:43 PM   #53
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The 2JZ-GTE is an inline-layout, six-cylinder, belt-driven dual-overhead camshaft, air-intercooled, twin-turbocharged, cast-iron engine designed and manufactured by Toyota Motor Corporation that was produced from 1991 until 2002 in Japan. Development and evolution of the engine was, principally, a response to Nissan's relatively new and then-successful RB26DETT engine which had achieved palpable success in FIA Group A and Group N touring car championships, worldwide. Final development of the 2JZ-GTE was outsourced to German engineering firm Johann A. Krause Maschinenfabrik GmbH for refinement to meet production car homogolation requirements set forth by the former All-Japan Grand Touring Car Championship.
oh yeah homogolation but still the germans had to tweek it
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Old 11-02-2009, 02:14 AM   #54
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Old 11-02-2009, 12:17 PM   #55
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oh yeah homogolation but still the germans had to tweek it
My bad
They also forgot to mention that the 1JZ develoopment was a co-op with YAMAHA if I am not mistaken.
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Old 11-02-2009, 03:36 PM   #56
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They also forgot to mention that the 1JZ develoopment was a co-op with YAMAHA if I am not mistaken.
speaking of 1J...OP why don't u do a frankenstein!? 1J head 2J block is the best way to go!

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rated 235 at the wheels and 315 ft lbs torque(a real torque monster,as the op states) and you are saying you can push it to over 200h.p. more at the wheels with simple mods? And I'm the ignorant one?
call your local ricer tuner and find out how much to make a dependable 450 hp at the wheels from a 2JZ. Not on laughing gas on motor.

Howie,I see you have one of those deplorably slow 55AMG's 4.5 second 0-60 must be an eternity

The sc version makes 517ft lbs of torque at 11lbs of boost at 2600 rpm 200 ft lb more at 1500 rpm lower then the 2jz
Add up the simple mods that will make the 2JZ do that
stage 2 2Jz short block capable of handling high boost $7800 fob.
u can't be serious, right?!

1. 2J will make 400hp with bolt ons, a boost controller and wastegate alone--all day-- safely!
2. If u change the twin setup to a large single setup u can make an easy 6-800hp as long as u do the tranny and rear end.
3. 2j blocks are pretty much indestructible and handle 1000hp no problem!

my 55AMG from factory should run low 13s and yes it feels fast and is torque(y) as hell but I'd take a Supra 2J over it anyday...as a matter of fact eventually I will be replacing my CLK with an MKIV Supra. I almost got a Supra instead of the CLk but wifey was preggo so I chose to hold off for now and go with the safer/more mature car
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Old 11-02-2009, 08:16 PM   #57
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back to cost. You make it sound like large single turbos are a buck three eighty
And 1000 hp engines are dime a dozen to build.
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Old 11-02-2009, 11:19 PM   #58
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You've said you've been building and racing MB's for 40 years, yet not ONCE have I ever seen pictures or descriptions of these cars.

The blown 5.5L is a good engine. That said, the 2jz can easily make 500bhp with just BPU mods. Add a single turbo, and you're making 600rwhp on a bulletproof bottom end. Not to mention a brand new toyota shortblock is $1800.

The 55k motors go for more than $4k, then you still have the same mods for the manual tranny, so its not any cheaper.



Stop being ignorant. You clearly know nothing about the 2jz motor. Stock it came with 300bhp, or around 255rwhp. Given that its a turbo motor, some intake, exhaust, and tuning modifications, and you're looking at 450rwhp easy.

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come on man we arent mature we are a bunch of third graders
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Old 11-03-2009, 09:08 PM   #61
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no nothing yet, painting got post poned until this weekend then some presents come next week, ill post more soon
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Old 11-04-2009, 01:35 AM   #62
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no nothing yet, painting got post poned until this weekend then some presents come next week, ill post more soon

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Old 11-05-2009, 10:37 AM   #63
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If the v8 mounts are anything like the i6 mounts the the 2jz should drop in pretty easy. I toyed with the idea of swapping my M104 for a 2jz and i have a 2jz sitting in my garage. I set it in the enigne bay one day while I was giving the M104 an out-if-the-bay once over.

ohlord is obviously a big Mercedes engine fan but the fact is that the 2jz is far superior in power and the price to get that power is far cheaper. Bottom line is you can have a 500hp supra with less than 2000 in modifications.

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hey man you still have that duck call bov on there?? haha
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Old 11-05-2009, 03:55 PM   #65
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the thing about this whole build tho is that if you have a production date later than 06/96 then you cant do the swap because mercedes went to high and low can communication data systems in 07/96... my car i will still be able to use the cluster and all interior functions because my car is 04/96...
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Old 11-05-2009, 09:51 PM   #66
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Heres a few more pics

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Then on goes some color!



And a new toy came today look how huge it is haha!!
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Old 11-06-2009, 02:06 AM   #68
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And a new toy came today look how huge it is haha!!
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Old 11-06-2009, 05:10 PM   #69
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After you cut the bumper support to fit that intercooler you will find that the bumper studs will no longer have anything to grip. I found that out after doing this with my water intercooler radiator. The easy solution to fit the bumper after you cut out the section of the bumper support is to thread the stud ALL the way down, cut off what's going to hit the intercooler and secure it to the front layer of steel instead of the back layer like it is originally fitted.
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Old 11-19-2009, 09:45 PM   #70
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Well i was super sick for a week so i havent done alot but check this out!!!
please dont repost my pics man thats anoyying haa thanks




You should see it in person it will bring a tear haha!!! i love it!!!! is that not an awesome color??
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