How do you know the Global Warming Scam is over?

[Spartan]

Originally Posted by Glasgow Gold I know, I know. You have got to see this movie. It is freakin' hilarious. As if to counter the abundant evidence you just observed by sticking your head outside for 2 seconds, they invent this scenario where, because of the damage the Kyoto-avoiding Americans primarily have done to the environment, unpredictable weather patterns result. One such pattern sends most of North America into an ice age! People freeze to death! All because people in California drove gas guzzling SUVs to see the Goracle speak! I have a 12 foot hill of snow in my plant, spent 6 hours on Saturday piling it up so my employees have somewhere to park. Anytime Al Goracle wants, he can come over and I can shove his face into it.

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[MG]

US litigious society at its best

http://www.businessandmedia.org/arti...303175301.aspx

[DCarrera]

Thanks for the link. I'll forward this onto all the Chicken-Littles that I know. I'm sure they'll just blame Bush and keep attending their Pro-Ethanol / Communist Party rallies.

[MG]

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...efer=worldwide

Those natural climate variations could be stronger than the global-warming trend over the next 10-year period,'' Wood said in an interview. ``Without knowing that, you might erroneously think there's no global warming going on.''

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Global cooling is merely the earth's natural cycle, but warming is definitely all humanity's fault?

[Glasgow Gold]

Great thread to bring back. I haven't had my Super Al fix for a few days.

[tyro]

The morons have escaped? Whether or not global warming is a direct function of humanity or a combination of nature and man, the planet is getting warmer. Not even retardo Bush denies this anymore.
If you could do something to help, would you nonetheless choose to ridicule that fact.
Hope you don't have any children who will one day look up to you and say; "Dad, why didn't they do something".

[MG]

Originally Posted by tyro

The morons have escaped? Whether or not global warming is a direct function of humanity or a combination of nature and man, the planet is getting warmer. Not even retardo Bush denies this anymore.
If you could do something to help, would you nonetheless choose to ridicule that fact.
Hope you don't have any children who will one day look up to you and say; "Dad, why didn't they do something".

thats why the only changes in mean temp since 1998 have been downward? Personally I say bring on the warming. Glaciers dipping south of Canada is not alot of fun.

BUT, the skiing is going to epic this next decade.

[tyro]

Originally Posted by MG

thats why the only changes in mean temp since 1998 have been downward? Personally I say bring on the warming. Glaciers dipping south of Canada is not alot of fun.

BUT, the skiing is going to epic this next decade.

How abt desalination of the oceans and cessation of the currents which warm europe. Europe will be the 1st to go into an ice age.

[MG]

Originally Posted by tyro

How abt desalination of the oceans and cessation of the currents which warm europe. Europe will be the 1st to go into an ice age.

from a giant super hurricane, formed from a complete lack of energy in the atmosphere, sucking super chilled air from space which instantly freezes everything it touches solid.

Science Fiction is FUN! No facts to worry about.

[tyro]

Originally Posted by MG

from a giant super hurricane, formed from a complete lack of energy in the atmosphere, sucking super chilled air from space which instantly freezes everything it touches solid.

Science Fiction is FUN! No facts to worry about.

Well, I do love science fiction. Read a ton of scifi books when I had time to read.

[vraa]

Anyone is an idiot who has concluded their mind.

We have only one sample size.
If you want to include Mars and Venus, we're even more ****ed because we all share the same Sun and follow the same horizontal oscillation throughout the galaxy.

What we desperately need *for a multitude of reasons* is more telescopes looking for extra-solar planetary systems.

Quite quickly (in the last few years READ: THAT MEANS IN THE 2000s!) we've discovered 287 planets.

We still have to develop better instruments, but I think in a few more decades we'll finally be able to determine if the evolution of our planet is proper, or if our alterations have seriously damaged the planet's ecosystem.

Until then, it's a really smart idea to err on the side of conservation.

[hkmb]

So, temperatures have gone down - as predicted by climatologists - because of La Nina, and this means there's no global warming to worry about. Never mind the predictions or standard patterns or anything like that.

Oh dear, it's time to draw another of the famous HKMB parallels.

You're the accountant at a Catholic church. For those who don't know (or care), Catholic churches have a collection at mass. The church has been pretty empty because the priest is rubbish, and collection takings at the 9:30 Sunday mass average US$ 100. But the old rubbish priest gets sent off to another parish (no-one's saying why - it's all very hush-hush), and you get this great new priest in. His sermons are cool, and the communion wine is nice. Word gets round, and more and more people start coming. The increasing numbers who do come are more generous too.

- On his first Sunday, collections at the 9:30 mass are US$ 110.
- On his second Sunday, collections at the 9:30 mass are US$ 130.
- On his third Sunday, collections at the 9:30 mass are US$ 150.
- On his fourth Sunday, collections at the 9:30 mass are US$ 210.
- On his fifth Sunday, collections at the 9:30 mass are US$ 280.

On the Tuesday of the sixth week, collections at the 9:30 mass are only US$ 15.

OMG! (or perhaps not a blasphemy, as we are talking about church - HFS! or BMS! or something).

What's happened?

Collection takings have completely collapsed! Why? Is the priest not very good any more? Is he embroiled in some sort of child sex scandal? What could possibly explain this downward trend?

Fortunately, as the accountant at the church, you are familiar with the predictable patterns. You realise that IT'S A TUESDAY and very few people go to church on Tuesdays. The congregation on Tuesdays consists of someone's mad Irish auntie and a nun. It has always been like this. It doesn't mean that the collection on Sundays isn't going to keep growing.

That's what's happening now. The widely-predicted, widely-understood cooling is part of a thoroughly predictable pattern. Like Tuesdays at Catholic churches.

It's not difficult.

[Moviela]

Global warming will be over and graveyard dead when Miami buys its first snowplow.

[jerseyMLdriver]

I don't know when this started happening. But after I booked my flight with Continental yesterday I noticed this..

"Continental has partnered with Sustainable Travel International (STI), a non-profit organization that supports global climate protection and environmental conservation. STI offers customers the option to make a contribution to offset their carbon footprints for travel on Continental. All contributions are paid directly to STI. Continental does not receive any portion of any contribution.

Sustainable Travel International calculates that to offset your amount of CO2 from this itinerary, you may contribute $30.87 or another amount."

So if I donate to this STI I will feel better for taking a plane to Italy? How about I keep my $30.87 and put it towards my gas.

[MG]

Originally Posted by hkmb

So, temperatures have gone down - as predicted by climatologists - because of La Nina, and this means there's no global warming to worry about. Never mind the predictions or standard patterns or anything like that.

It's not difficult.

mmmmmhhhhmmmmmmm, Genius analysis, really. I think you missed my point though. The press has jumped on the Hate humans theory that any global warming is man made and ignored all of the evidence that the very slight increase we have seen in the last century could be naturally occurring. El Nino and the Active period of the Sun?

Now the Sun starts to chill out and a weak La Nina pops up and suddenly the lefty loos are tripping over themselves to blame nature.

The consistency of he analysis is crap, just like the "evidence" that warming was man made.

Conservation is a good idea, but it should be done for the right reasons, sheer unadulterated cheapness, not because some human hater has stuffed a bunch of guilt laden lies down your throat.

[Act of God]

Originally Posted by MG

mmmmmhhhhmmmmmmm, Genius analysis, really. I think you missed my point though. The press has jumped on the Hate humans theory that any global warming is man made and ignored all of the evidence that the very slight increase we have seen in the last century could be naturally occurring. El Nino and the Active period of the Sun?

Now the Sun starts to chill out and a weak La Nina pops up and suddenly the lefty loos are tripping over themselves to blame nature.

The consistency of he analysis is crap, just like the "evidence" that warming was man made.

Conservation is a good idea, but it should be done for the right reasons, sheer unadulterated cheapness, not because some human hater has stuffed a bunch of guilt laden lies down your throat.

I'm fairly certain that we don't have a clue as to how everything works.

[MG]

Originally Posted by Act of God

I'm fairly certain that we don't have a clue as to how everything works.

I'm fairly certain you are right.

[revstriker]

Originally Posted by jerseyMLdriver

I don't know when this started happening. But after I booked my flight with Continental yesterday I noticed this..

"Continental has partnered with Sustainable Travel International (STI), a non-profit organization that supports global climate protection and environmental conservation. STI offers customers the option to make a contribution to offset their carbon footprints for travel on Continental. All contributions are paid directly to STI. Continental does not receive any portion of any contribution.

Sustainable Travel International calculates that to offset your amount of CO2 from this itinerary, you may contribute $30.87 or another amount."

So if I donate to this STI I will feel better for taking a plane to Italy? How about I keep my $30.87 and put it towards my gas.

This is a good reason for me, never to fly Continental for pushing this scam.

[LRM1]

Originally Posted by hkmb

So, temperatures have gone down - as predicted by climatologists - because of La Nina, and this means there's no global warming to worry about. Never mind the predictions or standard patterns or anything like that.

Oh dear, it's time to draw another of the famous HKMB parallels.

You're the accountant at a Catholic church. For those who don't know (or care), Catholic churches have a collection at mass. The church has been pretty empty because the priest is rubbish, and collection takings at the 9:30 Sunday mass average US$ 100. But the old rubbish priest gets sent off to another parish (no-one's saying why - it's all very hush-hush), and you get this great new priest in. His sermons are cool, and the communion wine is nice. Word gets round, and more and more people start coming. The increasing numbers who do come are more generous too.

- On his first Sunday, collections at the 9:30 mass are US$ 110.
- On his second Sunday, collections at the 9:30 mass are US$ 130.
- On his third Sunday, collections at the 9:30 mass are US$ 150.
- On his fourth Sunday, collections at the 9:30 mass are US$ 210.
- On his fifth Sunday, collections at the 9:30 mass are US$ 280.

On the Tuesday of the sixth week, collections at the 9:30 mass are only US$ 15.

OMG! (or perhaps not a blasphemy, as we are talking about church - HFS! or BMS! or something).

What's happened?

Collection takings have completely collapsed! Why? Is the priest not very good any more? Is he embroiled in some sort of child sex scandal? What could possibly explain this downward trend?

Fortunately, as the accountant at the church, you are familiar with the predictable patterns. You realise that IT'S A TUESDAY and very few people go to church on Tuesdays. The congregation on Tuesdays consists of someone's mad Irish auntie and a nun. It has always been like this. It doesn't mean that the collection on Sundays isn't going to keep growing.

That's what's happening now. The widely-predicted, widely-understood cooling is part of a thoroughly predictable pattern. Like Tuesdays at Catholic churches.

It's not difficult.

-In the 80's I recall the panic-driven predictions of a Gloabl Ice Age. By now, we should have all been living in igloos-we aren't.

-Then it was the hole in the ozone. By the year 2004 we should have all been dead becasue there would be no more ozone layer protecting the earth-we're still here.

-When they first identified "El Nino" it was proof that ocean currents were changing and would cause a climactic impact greater than man has ever seen-tornados in major cities like New York, LA, snow storms in June - well, aside from a twister in Miami a few years back, don't think the others have happened.

All of these hysterics were driven by ...here it comes....anti business groups, radical liberals and hippies, then perpetuated by the media and "supported" by scientific "proof" in the science community (never mind that the very people providing the "proof" were part of the left wing academia).

So here we are 20-25 years later and not one of those calamatous predictions have come true. Not one. Now, the very same group of people is predicting 30 feet of water on all coastal cities, mass devastation, starvation due to crop failure and global warming, er, I mean global climate change.

We can argue the science, and who provides it and why till we're blue in the face. Fact is, we should conserve energy and do everything in our ability to reduce man's impact on nature-however this panic and purposeful attacks on anyone who voices doubt is no different than the so called "nazi regime" in the White House, it's actually worse.

So for all of these "Climatologists" I offer a children's story about a little boy who cried wolf.......

[Act of God]

Don't forget the proverbial carrot on a stick, 100 BILLION dollars in grants to study AGW made available.

That is an industry by itself.

[Glasgow Gold]

Originally Posted by jerseyMLdriver

I don't know when this started happening. But after I booked my flight with Continental yesterday I noticed this..

"Continental has partnered with Sustainable Travel International (STI), a non-profit organization that supports global climate protection and environmental conservation. STI offers customers the option to make a contribution to offset their carbon footprints for travel on Continental. All contributions are paid directly to STI. Continental does not receive any portion of any contribution.

Sustainable Travel International calculates that to offset your amount of CO2 from this itinerary, you may contribute $30.87 or another amount."

So if I donate to this STI I will feel better for taking a plane to Italy? How about I keep my $30.87 and put it towards my gas.

Almost as funny as this...

[S55inPA]

Originally Posted by MG

mmmmmhhhhmmmmmmm, Genius analysis, really. I think you missed my point though. The press has jumped on the Hate humans theory that any global warming is man made and ignored all of the evidence that the very slight increase we have seen in the last century could be naturally occurring. El Nino and the Active period of the Sun?

Now the Sun starts to chill out and a weak La Nina pops up and suddenly the lefty loos are tripping over themselves to blame nature.

The consistency of he analysis is crap, just like the "evidence" that warming was man made.

Conservation is a good idea, but it should be done for the right reasons, sheer unadulterated cheapness, not because some human hater has stuffed a bunch of guilt laden lies down your throat.

great post. isn't it amazing how much the enviro-nuts hate human kind?
they are so mentally unstable that if they had their way we would all be living caves. the environmental movement has taken on the form of an out of control religion that rivals that of the islamofacists.

LRM1 post is very telling. people have very short memories

[Spartan]

Has anybody in here who supports Kyoto read the document? I bet NOBODY in here who is for it has ever read it.

If you have, please tell me what Article 10 and 11 are all about? And then come here and tell me that it is not written by leftist attemtping their BS social engineering.

Kyoto accord is a complete waste of toilet paper...

[Spartan]

Originally Posted by S55inPA

people have very short memories

Any and all facts are secondary to religious beliefs.

BTW......

The eco nazis no longer yell about "global warming". The religion has changed the cause to a more ambiguous "climate change".

The absurity of basing a "cause" on something that always changes and then blaming humanity for it is mind boggling. Ten thousand years ago, 80% of posters and lurker on this board would be undereneath a sheet of ice a mile thick. Whatever course of natural events changed that climate are also at work now....and will be still doing the same thing long after the human race disappears. One has to be a complete idiot to believe that somehow humans are now the cause of climate changes.

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[vraa]

The EPA should be disbanded

As well as the FDA