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[Cylinder Head]

Originally Posted by MiamiE55 I did not know that. Yeah dude certain sights are also going to be banned. I'm ordering one this week before the ban. SCREW THAT.

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[ldangeli]

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[M1M2M3]

When is that supposed to get passed, and will it make those guns illegal?

A little more info: what I want a light, dependable, accurate rifle with capacity for 30 rounds, and scope.

[ldangeli]

Originally Posted by M1M2M3

When is that supposed to get passed, and will it make those guns illegal?

A little more info: what I want a light, dependable, accurate rifle with capacity for 30 rounds, and scope.

30 Round Mags are only available pre-ban, not in NY or NJ anymore.

[Cylinder Head]

Originally Posted by ldangeli

30 Round Mags are only available pre-ban, not in NY or NJ anymore.

Can you buy one out of state? Or do you need documentation saying you bought the mags before the ban?

[ldangeli]

Originally Posted by Cylinder Head

Can you buy one out of state? Or do you need documentation saying you bought the mags before the ban?

They have manufacturing dates on the Mags. Depending on the state, the dates may vary. I know Jersey is like 98 or some crap. I get mags in PA, just can't use them at the range etc..

[M1M2M3]

Originally Posted by ldangeli

30 Round Mags are only available pre-ban, not in NY or NJ anymore.

damn when were they banned? So what are the new limitations and what is the best rifle to fit within the guidelines. I don't want to have anything that I could get in trouble with.

[Tymah123]

Originally Posted by M1M2M3

When is that supposed to get passed, and will it make those guns illegal?

A little more info: what I want a light, dependable, accurate rifle with capacity for 30 rounds, and scope.

In that case we'll need some feedback. What do/don't you like about M4/AR and AK-type rifles? The other alternative would be a Ruger Mini-14/30, light and small package but not too accurate I hear.

[Tymah123]

Originally Posted by ldangeli

They have manufacturing dates on the Mags. Depending on the state, the dates may vary. I know Jersey is like 98 or some crap. I get mags in PA, just can't use them at the range etc..

This might get you in hot water though, right? What would happened if they would search your car and find the hi-cap mag?

[ldangeli]

Originally Posted by M1M2M3

damn when were they banned? So what are the new limitations and what is the best rifle to fit within the guidelines. I don't want to have anything that I could get in trouble with.

1994. Brady Bill

On September 13, 1994, domestic gun manufacturers were required to stop production of semi-automatic assault weapons and ammunition clips holding more than 10 rounds except for military or police use. Imports of assault weapons not already banned by administrative action under Presidents Reagan and George H.W. Bush were also halted. Assault weapons and ammunition clips holding more than 10 rounds produced prior to September 13, 1994, were "grandfathered" in under the law and can still be possessed and sold.

The bill bans, by name, the manufacture of 19 different weapons:
Norinco, Mitchell, and Poly Technologies Avtomat Kalashnikovs (all models);
Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and Galil;
Beretta Ar70 (SC-70);
Colt AR-15;
Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, and FNC;
SWD M-10; M-11; M-11/9, and M-12;
Steyr AUG;
INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9, AND TEC-22;
revolving cylinder shotguns such as (or similar to) the Street Sweeper and Striker 12.

The bill also bans "copies" or "duplicates" of any of those weapons. The failure to include a ban of these "copies" or "duplicates" would have opened the door for widespread evasion of the ban. Even so, some unscrupulous gun manufacturers have tried to evade the law by making minor changes to their assault weapons in order to skirt the restrictions.

The 1994 law also prohibits manufacturers from producing firearms with more than one of the following assault weapon features:

Rifles
Folding/telescoping stock
Protruding pistol grip
Bayonet mount
Threaded muzzle or flash suppressor
Grenade launcher

Pistols
Magazine outside grip
Threaded muzzle
Barrel shroud
Unloaded weight of 50 ounces or more
Semi-automatic version of a fully automatic weapon

Shotguns
Folding/telescoping stock
Protruding pistol grip
Detachable magazine capacity
Fixed magazine capacity greater than 5 rounds

[Tymah123]

Originally Posted by ldangeli

1994. Brady Bill

On September 13, 1994, domestic gun manufacturers were required to stop production of semi-automatic assault weapons and ammunition clips holding more than 10 rounds except for military or police use. Imports of assault weapons not already banned by administrative action under Presidents Reagan and George H.W. Bush were also halted. Assault weapons and ammunition clips holding more than 10 rounds produced prior to September 13, 1994, were "grandfathered" in under the law and can still be possessed and sold.

The bill bans, by name, the manufacture of 19 different weapons:
Norinco, Mitchell, and Poly Technologies Avtomat Kalashnikovs (all models);
Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and Galil;
Beretta Ar70 (SC-70);
Colt AR-15;
Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, and FNC;
SWD M-10; M-11; M-11/9, and M-12;
Steyr AUG;
INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9, AND TEC-22;
revolving cylinder shotguns such as (or similar to) the Street Sweeper and Striker 12.

The bill also bans "copies" or "duplicates" of any of those weapons. The failure to include a ban of these "copies" or "duplicates" would have opened the door for widespread evasion of the ban. Even so, some unscrupulous gun manufacturers have tried to evade the law by making minor changes to their assault weapons in order to skirt the restrictions.

The 1994 law also prohibits manufacturers from producing firearms with more than one of the following assault weapon features:

Rifles
Folding/telescoping stock
Protruding pistol grip
Bayonet mount
Threaded muzzle or flash suppressor
Grenade launcher

Pistols
Magazine outside grip
Threaded muzzle
Barrel shroud
Unloaded weight of 50 ounces or more
Semi-automatic version of a fully automatic weapon

Shotguns
Folding/telescoping stock
Protruding pistol grip
Detachable magazine capacity
Fixed magazine capacity greater than 5 rounds

Didn't this ban expired in 2004?

[ldangeli]

Originally Posted by Tymah123

This might get you in hot water though, right? What would happened if they would search your car and find the hi-cap mag?

I wouldn't be carrying a high-cap mag in my car, or if I do, its in a "locked" location, in the trunk. The police have no reason to search my car, and it is within my right to deny them a "search" without probably cause. Now they could make me wait for a search warrant, but If I get pulled over, and there is no Probably cause, visible evidence, to search my car, my constitutional right pretects against that.

High cap mags are legal as long as they are "pre-ban". At least in my state they are.

[ldangeli]

Originally Posted by Tymah123

Didn't this ban expired in 2004?

Nope, it's still around..

http://www.bradycampaign.org/facts/faqs/?page=awb

[Tymah123]

Originally Posted by ldangeli

I wouldn't be carrying a high-cap mag in my car, or if I do, its in a "locked" location, in the trunk. The police have no reason to search my car, and it is within my right to deny them a "search" without probably cause. Now they could make me wait for a search warrant, but If I get pulled over, and there is no Probably cause, visible evidence, to search my car, my constitutional right pretects against that.

High cap mags are legal as long as they are "pre-ban". At least in my state they are.

I just know that I wouldn't want to risk getting in trouble over some hi-cap mags. If they're legal then it's one thing but isn't getting 2 20rds mags better than 1 30rds? I just don't think it's worth it. But to each his own.

[Tymah123]

Originally Posted by ldangeli

Nope, it's still around..

http://www.bradycampaign.org/facts/faqs/?page=awb

Then how come you're able to get that AR with all the "evil" features? Telescoping stock, pistol grip etc?

[ldangeli]

Originally Posted by Tymah123

I just know that I wouldn't want to risk getting in trouble over some hi-cap mags. If they're legal then it's one thing but isn't getting 2 20rds mags better than 1 30rds? I just don't think it's worth it. But to each his own.

I have 10's, 20's, 30's. It all depends. If I am some where and I see a certain thing, I buy it.

[M1M2M3]

can someone post a website that I can get some info on these badboys

[ldangeli]

MY COLLECTION

Start at #265.

[hellcat]

Originally Posted by ldangeli

Nope, it's still around..

http://www.bradycampaign.org/facts/faqs/?page=awb

Did you even read your link? Tymah is right.

Q: What is the status of the federal assault weapons ban?

A: The federal law banning the sale of semi-automatic assault weapons, known as the federal assault weapons ban, has expired.

This ban is no longer in effect. That is why HR 6257 is on the table now.

[Tymah123]

Originally Posted by ldangeli

MY COLLECTION

Start at #265.

Awesome collection. I wish so badly that the AWB would be thrown out in NYC, I can't get anything decent in semi-auto here....

[Tymah123]

Originally Posted by ldangeli

I have 10's, 20's, 30's. It all depends. If I am some where and I see a certain thing, I buy it.

If I lived by the same principle my house would be full of AKs, ARs and FALs...

And the courts would have a field day locking up a "danger to society" with "a cache of assault weapons"... what a load of crap....

[hellcat]

The real question is getting your hands on Class III firearms. I know it is possible as a civilian because I've seen people with them, I'm just not sure how to go about obtaining them legally. It is also very exepnsive I've been told.

[M1M2M3]

Originally Posted by ldangeli

MY COLLECTION

Start at #265.

Damn, you have something for everything

[ldangeli]

Originally Posted by hellcat

Did you even read your link? Tymah is right.




This ban is no longer in effect. That is why HR 6257 is on the table now.

It is still in effect "per state" Jersey still has it in effect as do 40 other states. The ban is back on the table to keep it at a Federal Level.

[ldangeli]

Originally Posted by hellcat

The real question is getting your hands on Class III firearms. I know it is possible as a civilian because I've seen people with them, I'm just not sure how to go about obtaining them legally. It is also very exepnsive I've been told.

There is a site on the web, and I am trying to find it, that listed all of the Class III States. PA, VT, a few others.