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Old 07-01-2008, 04:37 PM   #51
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OH must be one of them because that's where I last met somebody with one. Or he brought it over from PA I guess. To remove this ad, register today or login if you already are registered!
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It is still in effect "per state" Jersey still has it in effect as do 40 other states. The ban is back on the table to keep it at a Federal Level.
So if NJ has the ban does that mean that you can't buy an AR or an AK there as well?
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Old 07-01-2008, 04:43 PM   #53
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Then how come you're able to get that AR with all the "evil" features? Telescoping stock, pistol grip etc?
Bought it at my local truck stop!! HAHAHA!!
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Old 07-01-2008, 04:43 PM   #54
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So if NJ has the ban does that mean that you can't buy an AR or an AK there as well?
No is it that they wont sell them or that it is illegal to own them in NY NJ
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So if NJ has the ban does that mean that you can't buy an AR or an AK there as well?
No, ban on high mags. sorry. You can still but the rifles, just not the high cap mags. Sorry for the confusion.
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No is it that they wont sell them or that it is illegal to own them in NY NJ
To clairfy, flash supressers, high cap mags, some hollow points bullets, folding stocks, or a combination and rapid fire, are banned. The actual firearm is not.
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No, ban on high mags. sorry. You can still but the rifles, just not the high cap mags. Sorry for the confusion.
Now it makes sense! Well NYC has a ban on everything, a copy of the Federal AWB but with no expiration date.
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Old 07-01-2008, 04:50 PM   #58
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No is it that they wont sell them or that it is illegal to own them in NY NJ
NOT NYS, just NYC. The rest of the state enjoys semi-autos and CCW permits.
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To clairfy, flash supressers, high cap mags, some hollow points bullets, folding stocks, or a combination and rapid fire, are banned. The actual firearm is not.
oh thanks. So do you think the AR is the best bet and if so which one. I think I'll pick up that 870 while I'm at it.
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oh thanks. So do you think the AR is the best bet and if so which one. I think I'll pick up that 870 while I'm at it.
870 is the ultimate home protection tool. Shotguns are terrifying to everyone, and it's hard to miss with some good ol' 00 Buck. It will put holes through their ho's too.
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Here's what I was looking for.

http://www.westernfirearms.com/wfc/default?set=02
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870 is the ultimate home protection tool. Shotguns are terrifying to everyone, and it's hard to miss with some good ol' 00 Buck. It will put holes through their ho's too.

so in the event it has to be used in my house I should call my "plaster artisan" prior to notifying the police.
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so in the event it has to be used in my house I should call my "plaster artisan" prior to notifying the police.
Same time to be exact..
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so in the event it has to be used in my house I should call my "plaster artisan" prior to notifying the police.
3-way conference them with the cops.

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870 is the ultimate home protection tool. Shotguns are terrifying to everyone, and it's hard to miss with some good ol' 00 Buck. It will put holes through their ho's too.
The 870 even scares me when I'm firing it. My range only allows slugs to be fired from the shotgun so the sound and the recoil is terrifying even on the other side, don't even want to think how it would feel standing on the business end of it....
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The 870 scares me when I'm firing it. My range only allows slugs to be fired from the shotgun so the sound and the recoil is terrifying even on the other side, don't even want to think how it would feel standing on the business end of it....
It wouldn't feel much. You probably wouldn't even hear it coming. Just lights out. A slug at close range is taking whatever it hits, and everything in an 8 inch radius with it.
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Anybody got $45,000 I can borrow?



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[quote=hellcat;2914955]Anybody got $45,000 I can borrow?

Thats just that expensive due to its age right? How much are the ARs, I thought guns were inexpensive.
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It wouldn't feel much. You probably wouldn't even hear it coming. Just lights out. A slug at close range is taking whatever it hits, and everything in an 8 inch radius with it.
8 inches?? The 7.62 makes a basketball size cavity, I think a .72cal(12GA) slug would make an even bigger bullet cavity....

Come to think of it 16 inches diameter sounds about right...
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Thats just that expensive due to its age right? How much are the ARs, I thought guns were inexpensive.
It's expensive because its a pre-ban fully automatic machine gun. You can get a knock-off semiauto AK47 for ~$1,000 but a full auto version will run you around $16,000. That should give you an idea of the markup.
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wow thats a crazy difference. I tried a local search in Y! and couldn't find any gun stores in my area I did find a shooting range that was closed. I'll try tomorrow and see if they can point me in the right direction.
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It's expensive because its a pre-ban fully automatic machine gun. You can get a knock-off semiauto AK47 for ~$1,000 but a full auto version will run you around $16,000. That should give you an idea of the markup.
the full auto sear for an AR is like $4,000 i think? thats the last couple i saw on ar15.com
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the full auto sear for an AR is like $4,000 i think? thats the last couple i saw on ar15.com
Hold on I just looked at that site you can buy these over the internet?
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I love my AR....

You're not supposed to have the grenade launcher or the bayonet lug either. ....lets just leave it at that.....
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