Gun Owners - Page 5

Tymah123 · 07-02-2008, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Cylinder Head

I usually cite rogue Jehovah's Witnesses. Dangerous bunch, almost as bad as carnies.

Every born again group is pretty fanatical and therefore can't be reasoned with, they're unpredictable.

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M1M2M3 · 07-02-2008, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Tymah123

The primary purpose is to stockpile guns and ammo to arm unarmed friends in the SHTF scenarios.

Nice. I called again and got another VM after stopping at the address that appeared to be a desolate warehouse with only gated entrances. I'll see if I get a call back.

Tymah123 · 07-02-2008, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by M1M2M3

Nice. I called again and got another VM after stopping at the address that appeared to be a desolate warehouse with only gated entrances. I'll see if I get a call back.

A good gun store on LI is this one, they have tons of assault rifles. The owner, Stan, is a good guy. They charge 10% to get a firearm delivered to them from an online store/auction or outta state.

T&T Tactical
2180 Jericho Turnpike
Garden City Park, NY 11040
516-739-2607

M1M2M3 · 07-02-2008, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Tymah123

A good gun store on LI is this one, they have tons of assault rifles. The owner, Stan, is a good guy.

T&T Tactical
2180 Jericho Turnpike
Garden City Park, NY 11040
516-739-2607

Thanks, I'll check them out the place I went to looks like I would get dumped in an alley and never heard of again

At this point I will have to wait next week.

Tymah123 · 07-02-2008, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by M1M2M3

Thanks, I'll check them out the place I went to looks like I would get dumped in an alley and never heard of again

At this point I will have to wait next week.

I don't know how far away are they from you but I'd call ahead just so I'd come prepared there. They have no problem placing an order for you over the phone so all you'll have to do is show up and pick up your gun already waiting for you. They're about 40 mins away from me but those guys are waaay better than the gun hating NYC gun shops, they look at you like a dirty criminal if you're not a cop, at least that's the welcome I've recieved. Even after I'd present them with a firearm permit they still weren't very (at all!) helpful. I was glad to take my business elsewhere.

M1M2M3 · 07-02-2008, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Tymah123

I don't know how far away are they from you but I'd call ahead just so I'd come prepared there. They have no problem placing an order for you over the phone so all you'll have to do is show up and pick up your gun already waiting for you. They're about 40 mins away from me but those guys are waaay better than the gun hating NYC gun shops, they look at you like a dirty criminal if you're not a cop, at least that's the welcome I've recieved. Even after I'd present them with a firearm permit they still weren't very (at all!) helpful. I was glad to take my business elsewhere.

Do I need to have a permit first?

Tymah123 · 07-03-2008, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by M1M2M3

Do I need to have a permit first?

Don't know about that, somebody have mentioned a gun card of some sort. I live in NYC and a firearm permit is a must here. They make you jump though quite a few hoops for it too.

dnlow · 07-04-2008, 07:24 PM

After reading all this discusion I feel sorry for you all. Out here in Arizona, they do not infringe on your 2nd amendment rights too much. You can buy guns from private parties, have high capacity magazines, and alot more freedoms. It is too bad. I hope it gets better on the East coast to be a gun owner.

Have a great 4th of July.

gqa · 07-05-2008, 01:29 AM

hey tymah i'm a licensed and registered rifle owner in NYC. and i know the bullsh*t they put me thru just to get my shotgun. but what assault rifles or semi-autos can i get legally and keep in the city?

i cant wait to move to Florida a gun friendly state!

Tymah123 · 07-16-2008, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by gqa

hey tymah i'm a licensed and registered rifle owner in NYC. and i know the bullsh*t they put me thru just to get my shotgun. but what assault rifles or semi-autos can i get legally and keep in the city?

i cant wait to move to Florida a gun friendly state!

gqa, sorry for the delayed response... There are only 3 semis you can get in NYC: Ruger 10/22, Browning BAR and Mini-14/30. That's it! If you'll find any others that I can own here please let me know! Some gun stores will actually claim that 10/22 is illegal here, NOT TRUE.

M1M2M3 · 08-06-2008, 03:22 PM

http://www.newsday.com/services/news...,3178890.story

ldangeli · 08-06-2008, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by M1M2M3

http://www.newsday.com/services/news...,3178890.story

Boo hoo. These rediculous anti-gun activists groups should be more careful and do more research on who they hire. Christ, they would have known she did this before.

rsr911 · 08-06-2008, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by M1M2M3

http://www.newsday.com/services/news...,3178890.story

LOL!!!!

I love it!!! This is priceless!!!

rsr911 · 08-06-2008, 04:47 PM

Idangeli this is for you,
and #11 Matthew J. Melchionda final 10-42
National Fallen Officers Memorial in Washington DC

and for all those who serve and protect.

lauer87 · 08-06-2008, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by hellcat

The real question is getting your hands on Class III firearms. I know it is possible as a civilian because I've seen people with them, I'm just not sure how to go about obtaining them legally. It is also very exepnsive I've been told.

Its not difficult to obtain the Class III Federal Firearms License, apply through the ATF, they do a pretty thorough background check, and pay them about $200. The problem is that a "cheap" fully automatic and FULLY legal full auto rifle will start around $10,000-15,000 for used M-16's. You could modify AR-15's, AK's, etc, but if you get caught with one of those, your in some serrious ****

Andy0331 · 08-06-2008, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by lauer87

Its not difficult to obtain the Class III Federal Firearms License, apply through the ATF, they do a pretty thorough background check, and pay them about $200.

Not accurate info.

An actual "Class III" license is held by a Federal Firearms License holder (Gun Dealer), the so-called Class 3 portion is a Special Occupational Tax that allows that dealer to buy/sell Title II firearms (machineguns, destructive devices, silencers, short barelled rifles & shotguns & "any other weapons).

The process of obtaining a ATF "Form 4" (which allows personal ownership of Title II weapons), may or may not be difficult. Lots of variables: your state's laws, your city/county's laws & judges/LEO's that must sign off to allow you to possess one in your area, background/fingerprint check, and then the measly $200 tax. Also, the $200 tax is not for a license, it's a tax paid on each Form 4 you have. It's not a blanket, one shot deal for any number of weapons; each time you want a new one, you go through the process again. Each time you sell one, your buyer does the same thing.

More detailed, accurate & up to date information is available here:

http://www.titleii.com

hellcat · 08-06-2008, 10:56 PM

Thanks, thats the same info I found as well. The only problem now is coming up with the $15,000 for a legal AK47.

CrazyDonkey · 08-06-2008, 11:02 PM

Andy is correct, and you can buy sears to make an M16 fully automatic, the $200 tax stamp would be for the sear and not the weapon itself.

there are other ways to get form 4's other than just to yourself, you can also setup an LLC.

gqa · 08-06-2008, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Tymah123

gqa, sorry for the delayed response... There are only 3 semis you can get in NYC: Ruger 10/22, Browning BAR and Mini-14/30. That's it! If you'll find any others that I can own here please let me know! Some gun stores will actually claim that 10/22 is illegal here, NOT TRUE.

Thanks for the reply. ill stop by my gun dealer in LI to see what they look like.

ldangeli · 08-07-2008, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by rsr911

Idangeli this is for you,
and #11 Matthew J. Melchionda final 10-42
National Fallen Officers Memorial in Washington DC

and for all those who serve and protect.

I've been here. It is absolutely beautiful. Thank you brother. It brings a tear to my eye everytime I think about this!

ldangeli · 08-07-2008, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by hellcat

Thanks, thats the same info I found as well. The only problem now is coming up with the $15,000 for a legal AK47.

I thought this was posted in here at one point earlier. LAW There is a website out there, somewhere, that tells you the states that allow, and the states that do not allow Class III.

rsr911 · 08-07-2008, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ldangeli

I've been here. It is absolutely beautiful. Thank you brother. It brings a tear to my eye everytime I think about this!

My pleasure!

raymond g- · 08-08-2008, 02:08 AM

Class 1 - importer of Title 2 firearms
Class 2 - manufacturer of Title 2 firearms
Class 3 - dealer of Title 3 firearms

Andy - Class 3 SOT does not include DD. that's a separate SOT category.

Class 3 is technically not accurate to use when identifying the type of
firearms under the National Fireams Act. More accurate is "Title 1" (pistols,
rifles, shotguns, pistol gripped shotgun of the type sold at Walmart, et al),
or "Title 2" (MG, SI, SBR, SBS, AOW).

great write up by James Bardwell, esquire

Andy0331 · 08-08-2008, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by raymond g-

Andy - Class 3 SOT does not include DD. that's a separate SOT category.

Doh, you're right. I knew I'd miss something in there. It's been awhile since I've actively done anything with transfers. The brain is collecting dust...

rahulanand1130 · 08-08-2008, 03:39 PM

New Jersey just banned 50 caliber rifles. Cant even get a 50 caliber muzzle loader anymore here

07-05-2008, 01:29 AM	#109
gqa Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: N.Y.C. Posts: 373 Drives: 05' sl 500	hey tymah i'm a licensed and registered rifle owner in NYC. and i know the bullsh*t they put me thru just to get my shotgun. but what assault rifles or semi-autos can i get legally and keep in the city? i cant wait to move to Florida a gun friendly state! __________________

08-06-2008, 03:22 PM	#111
M1M2M3 MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: May 2005 Location: NY Posts: 1,122 Drives: haven't touched a wheel in a while	http://www.newsday.com/services/news...,3178890.story __________________ When someone shows you who they are, believe them. "If women didn't exist all the money in the world would have no meaning" -A. Onassis

08-06-2008, 04:47 PM	#114
rsr911 MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,090 Drives: 2002 AMG CLK55, 2005 ML350, 1995 S320 LWB - totaled	Something special!!!! Idangeli this is for you, and #11 Matthew J. Melchionda final 10-42 National Fallen Officers Memorial in Washington DC and for all those who serve and protect. __________________ 2002 AMG CLK55 2005 ML350 Mercedes Benz Owner's Gun Club, Member #26 1995 S320 LWB (totaled 5/25/09) 2003 C240 4matic (sold) 1986 Porsche 911 (sold) 2002 Subaru WRX (track car) (sold) 1999 230 SLK (sold) 1973 450 SL (sold) 1973 450SLC (sold) "Time is too precious to keep it on an inexpensive watch"

08-06-2008, 10:56 PM	#117
hellcat MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 4,803 Drives: 97 4Runner	Thanks, thats the same info I found as well. The only problem now is coming up with the $15,000 for a legal AK47. __________________ "The speed with which the fiscal situation has deteriorated has been breathtaking. Just one year ago, in the Mid-Session Review of the last budget of the Bush Administration, the federal budget was expected to move from deficit to surplus in 2012 with debt equaling 36% of GDP. Today, the deficit is expected to be almost $800 billion in 2012 with the debt at over 71% of GDP and rising." -JP Morgan Market Bulletin, 8 Sep 09

08-08-2008, 02:08 AM	#123
raymond g- MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Seattle WA Posts: 3,527 Drives: 99e320, 00e320, YSR-50, Kymco150, ZRX1200R	Class 1 - importer of Title 2 firearms Class 2 - manufacturer of Title 2 firearms Class 3 - dealer of Title 3 firearms Andy - Class 3 SOT does not include DD. that's a separate SOT category. Class 3 is technically not accurate to use when identifying the type of firearms under the National Fireams Act. More accurate is "Title 1" (pistols, rifles, shotguns, pistol gripped shotgun of the type sold at Walmart, et al), or "Title 2" (MG, SI, SBR, SBS, AOW). *great write up by James Bardwell, esquire* __________________ raymond- 47º34'N 122º18'W

07-04-2008, 07:24 PM	#108
dnlow Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Casa Grande, Arizona Posts: 118 Drives: 2005 c230k	After reading all this discusion I feel sorry for you all. Out here in Arizona, they do not infringe on your 2nd amendment rights too much. You can buy guns from private parties, have high capacity magazines, and alot more freedoms. It is too bad. I hope it gets better on the East coast to be a gun owner. Have a great 4th of July.

08-06-2008, 11:02 PM	#118
CrazyDonkey Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: AZ Posts: 150 Drives: 2008 ML320 CDI	Andy is correct, and you can buy sears to make an M16 fully automatic, the $200 tax stamp would be for the sear and not the weapon itself. there are other ways to get form 4's other than just to yourself, you can also setup an LLC.

08-08-2008, 03:39 PM	#125
rahulanand1130 Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Jersey Posts: 195 Drives: 2003 E55 AMG	New Jersey just banned 50 caliber rifles. Cant even get a 50 caliber muzzle loader anymore here

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