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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: USR, NJ, United States of Americaland
Posts: 129
Drives: 1994 C124 E320 Coupe - 1975 W116 280S
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1975 280S need help!!!
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Last edited by Chinny4290; 03-13-2008 at 03:24 PM. |
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It does not make much sense to try to diagnose problems before you even have a chance to service the car. The whirring noise may be due to old motor oil or old differential fluid. Once all those things are changed and you have some high quality lubricant in the car, then it will be time to find the issues.
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: california high desert
Posts: 375
Drives: 2003 S500
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i agree with changing fluids asap
although i wouldent spend big dollars on the engine oil.just go with a standard castrol 30wt or any oil of your choice and a new filter.based on your description of somke and oil consumption your literally pumping oil into the hot exhaust manifold and creating those plumes as you are describing.on deceleration you create high vacume conditions within the engine which pulls oil past valve stem seals and worn/sticking/broken rings.as soon as you gas it the flow of combustion gases carries the oil into the hot exhaust manifold and you get that plume effect.when you pull the plugs look into the cylinder with a flashlight and attempt to see any valves that are open,is there oil dripping or are they wet with oil?stem seals.also spark plug threads that are saturated with oil is also a sign of stem seals.im looking into a 1974 MB tomorrow with 88k miles on it and im glad i read your thread.i have allways wanted an old benz but there is alot that can go wrong on cars this old.im thinking i better be prepaired for a complete disassembly of the engine with a minimum of complete engine seals and gaskets,valvejob and potentially bearings,hone and rings.good luck,there is a slight chance that it will run better with use.run the new oil for a couple hundred miles and if things start looking better than change the oil and filter again but stay with a single viscosity oil.
Last edited by AH1W-COBRA; 08-07-2008 at 12:28 AM. Reason: text |
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: USR, NJ, United States of Americaland
Posts: 129
Drives: 1994 C124 E320 Coupe - 1975 W116 280S
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I actually fixed it.
It was the vacuum pump which runs off the camshaft on the M110s in the 280Ss for the US. The cam seal was bad so oil under high engine pressure would flood the vacuum pump and go into the intake vacuum line, basically going into the cylinders and burning. Piston rings are fine, compression is fine, valve seals are fine. All is well.
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: california high desert
Posts: 375
Drives: 2003 S500
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thats the best news yet
so this car stopped smoking completely?was the car maintaned at all or was it simply parked and never started for years.im headed over to check out the 1974 now.im most worried about the coolant just sitting in the block for the last 9 years and never being started.i do live in the ca high desert so rust isnt an issue.
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: USR, NJ, United States of Americaland
Posts: 129
Drives: 1994 C124 E320 Coupe - 1975 W116 280S
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Yup. The car sat for a year, and was maintained prior to sitting. I did a complete tune up about 2-3 months ago and it runs as fine as ever.
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