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Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 197
Drives: E55 AMG Kompressor
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This really depends on many factors. 1. Track surface 2 tire condition ESP has aided many and hurt many, best way to determine what is best is to test on a track Do a run with it on in d/s cool the cart back down Do a run with it off in d/s You can pilot the car well in either mode but both have weak points. ESP will cause the car to restrict power to the wheel it detects slipping , it will definately hinder the car unless the launch and run is clean. Esp off obviously the wheels spin and spin and spin... On most Mercedes models ESP off using the button is not really "off" to disengage ESP you must run in DYNO mode or pull the ESP fuse. Hope this helps Bottom line it is a choice based on your ewxperience in your car. |
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Join Date: Nov 2008
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very informative and useful .. very nice of you ... thanks alot
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Columbus OH
Posts: 89
Drives: A4, M3, 996, E55
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Gents,
This thread is a great refresher since I havn't drag raced anything in >10 years. I have a question on most effective method of cooling the car between runs. In the old days guys would break out bags of ice to insure intake charge temps were as low as possible. Has anyone experimented with this on their E55's? Andy |
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Maryland
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Drives: 01 Kleemann CLK55, 99 CLK430
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I switched to dry ice to prevent water dripping onto the track and tires. If you use ice just make certain it is not going to druip on the track , it tends to pool up and when you hammer off the line it spills and , well you do it more than once you r d o n e racing |
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: In a box
Posts: 2,516
Drives: W211 E55
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As juicee63 said, water on the track is a dangerous no-no.
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Columbus OH
Posts: 89
Drives: A4, M3, 996, E55
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Do you place it immediatly on top of the supercharger to cool the unit itself...or is there a better / more efficient place for the ice to be placed.
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: long island ny
Posts: 222
Drives: 2008 e63 amg
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traction control /dyno mode
you need to put the car in dyno mode to disable the tration . turn the key on the on position make sure radio is off , set display to oil temp or speedo i think press reset plunger on speedo cluster 3 times and it will direct you to
putting the car to comfort mode and raising the suspension is the way to go , will help weight transfer to rear upon acceleration |
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 279
Drives: CLK 55 AMG 2005 and CLK 63 AMG cab.2007
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Will putting it in Dyno Mode be faster?
or too dangerous at 100 Mph...?
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: In a box
Posts: 2,516
Drives: W211 E55
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You lose the Brake LSD function, as well as all ABS functions - I would run TC off, unless you have a mechanical LSD.
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Join Date: May 2009
Location: MIAMI
Posts: 1
Drives: E55
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WHEN RACING OFF THE HOLE IS IT BETTER TO LEAVE THE TRACTION CNTRL ON CUZ IT WONT STOP SPINNING I GUESS AM TAKING OFF TOO HARD.
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 27
Drives: sl65
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THE LAUNCH
The hardest part of the race is the first 60 feet. Practice is the only way to improve this time, but here’s what works for me. Settings: Suspension in COMFORT mode and raised, trans in SPORT mode. After staging, with my foot on the brake, I press lightly on the accelerator to bring the RPMs up to about 1100-1200. This takes the slack out of the drivetrain. On the last yellow, I release the brake and roll into the throttle. Simply slamming on the gas will result in wheelspin and a slower ET. The speed at which you come to full throttle depends on available traction. When it is time tostart do we step on the gas or what do you suggest, I know how to launch my stick 700 HP Porsche but this will be a new thing for me.... any suggestions from experienced folks would help
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Riverwoods, Il
Posts: 138
Drives: 2005 E55 AMG
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I thought manual mode was better than sport mode?
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Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 22
Drives: 2006 E55 AMG
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Other members certainly have more experince than I do - but I'm not sure you can "outshift" the computer.
In regards to TC - I saw an interesting accident a few weeks ago. I was at an 1/8th mile track running behind a modded vette (he ran 98mph on previous run). Just before the 1/8th mark the car hit a new gear which literally sent him sideways into the concrete barrier. No traction control and running street tires. I bet he wished he had TC. If running without TC be prepared to save a few runs or check your ego and let off. |
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Texas
Posts: 31
Drives: CL55
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A couple of other things I didn't see mentioned.
All NHRA and professionally run tracks will require every car and driver to "tech in". Each car will get a tech card to fill out basic information about the car and driver. The tech will only tech you in if you meet all of safety requirements. Helmet, Jacket (for 11.99 & faster) etc for the driver and all of the car requirements for the appropriate time category. A helpful hint for driving around the water... most of the guys that spray the water down on the track stand in between the lanes. This makes the innermost sides of the waterbox area the the driest as they concentrate the water to the centers of the lanes. Say you are in the left lane as you pull up you would head as far right as possible going onto the staging area. As you get around the box, you would center the car, and back into the water box to start the burnout. Also tracks have 2 kinds of lights on the "christmas tree", a street tree and a pro tree. The pro tree goes from amber to green as soon as both cars are staged, whereas the street tree has the amber lights that count down to the green. Some tracks will let you request which lights you want on test and tune or street nights. Also some tracks will let you request your times not to be displayed on the boards. This is great for anyone who is nervous or new to the track.. Also helpful if you are racing for $$ and you don't want potential races to know your times... |
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Stratford,Ct
Posts: 136
Drives: 2005 E55 AMG
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Pics of a decent launch,I was on drag radials that were close to 2" taller than the stock spec tire so it took some gear away.
It ran 12.1*@113 with a 1.74 60 ftthis way I ran it on stock tires yesterday and went 12.21@116.6 with a 1.98 60ft This is a pic on the drag radials |
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On your street tire you should be able to attain low 1.8x. Nice times and traps and this picture demonstrates a nice launch. Great! |
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Stratford,Ct
Posts: 136
Drives: 2005 E55 AMG
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As far as the street tires I was at the track tuning a few race cars and just went out and threw down that pass,need a little more practice launching on street tires |
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