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Old 05-01-2009, 10:24 PM   #101
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Never heard of this, I'd love to hear more about it. Is it a "hold" feature that lets you take your foot off the brake at intersections?
yes and also at stop lights.
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Old 05-01-2009, 10:26 PM   #102
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SBC STOP
The system offers several additional functions besides a new braking behavior, due to its electronic brain: In stop-and-go traffic the vehicle brakes automatically, when the foot is lifted off the accelerator pedal ("Traffic Jam Assist"). It can be engaged under 10 MPH, using the the cruise control lever and switches off automatically at higher speeds. It remains active under 40 MPH. When engaged the instrument cluster indicates "SBC S". One can also activate it on downhill slopes via cruise control, so the car won't speed over the set limit. It was deleted starting with MY 2005.

SBC HOLD A "drive-away assistant" prevents the vehicle from rolling backwards or forward when starting on a hill or steep incline. A firm push onto the brake pedal, and the car remains stopped, even when taking the foot off the brake pedal, until the driver accelerates and the vehicle begins to roll. When set, the instrument cluster indicates SBC HOLD. I like using this function and miss it when switching back to other cars. As far as I know it was first introduced in the spring of 2003 in the 04 E-class Estate and lateron in the 2004 SLs.

DRY BRAKE
And finally there is the dry brake function. It is always activated when the windshield wipers run. The system then knows, that it rains and, with short brake pulses unnoticed by the driver, keeps the brake discs always dry and fully functional.
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for SBC H squeeze the brake pedal and let go, the dash will say SBC H
for SBC S hold the cruise control lever downwards for a couple of seconds.

Interesting...

As my 2004 E500 equipped with SBC does not have this feature. Oddly enough, my 2006 R500 without SBC does have a hold feature but there's no indication on the dash.

Weird.
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Old 05-01-2009, 10:52 PM   #104
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for SBC H squeeze the brake pedal and let go, the dash will say SBC H
for SBC S hold the cruise control lever downwards for a couple of seconds.
I tried it and nothing. If it is in S, how to I put it in H?
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I've noticed some of the brake features mentioned but I don't see a display ever. Do I need to be in a particular menu? I love the cruise control part. Up hill or down, the car holds the speed .

My wife's C350 has a hold feature, but it only does it for a second or so, not until you press the gas. Would really help on a stick and hills.

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I've noticed some of the brake features mentioned but I don't see a display ever. Do I need to be in a particular menu? I love the cruise control part. Up hill or down, the car holds the speed .

My wife's C350 has a hold feature, but it only does it for a second or so, not until you press the gas. Would really help on a stick and hills.

GRRRRR!!! I want in on these features!!
The SBC-H takes over the smaller text of the main menu. For mine, that means taking over the temp area. I can tell you that mine only started working when I had my brake pads replaced and the dealership must have corrected some brake sensor in the process.

I found this out because if you try to put the car in park and turn off the car when in SBC-H, it gives a giant red error in the command.
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wtf is that sbc h and s thing? How do you use the traffic jam thing again? I don't get it.
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wtf is that sbc h and s thing? How do you use the traffic jam thing again? I don't get it.
Sbc h - say you are at stop light. Your leg is on the break. Squeez the brake pedal and lift you leg. The car will remain stationary.

Sbc s - say you are in stop and go traffic. Depress the cruise control lever to activate sbc s. Then everytime you let go of the gas the brakes will be applied to stop the car. Only works until 40mph.
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Sbc h - say you are at stop light. Your leg is on the break. Squeez the brake pedal and lift you leg. The car will remain stationary.

Sbc s - say you are in stop and go traffic. Depress the cruise control lever to activate sbc s. Then everytime you let go of the gas the brakes will be applied to stop the car. Only works until 40mph.
So push the cruise control stalk forward for SBC S?
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From the internets....

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SBC STOP

The system offers several additional functions besides a new braking behavior, due to its electronic brain: In stop-and-go traffic the vehicle brakes automatically, when the foot is lifted off the accelerator pedal ("Traffic Jam Assist"). It can be engaged under 10 MPH, using the the cruise control lever and switches off automatically at higher speeds. It remains active under 40 MPH. When engaged the instrument cluster indicates "SBC S". One can also activate it on downhill slopes via cruise control, so the car won't speed over the set limit. It was deleted starting with MY 2005.

SBC SOFT STOP

is not yet released, though few people are aware of it since Mercedes advertises it already. It might be released lateron. In city traffic soft-stop supposedly allows soft, jerkless stopping. Not sure if it's needed since SBC brakes can be modulated well, with good feel.

SBC HOLD

A "drive-away assistant" prevents the vehicle from rolling backwards or forward when starting on a hill or steep incline. A firm push onto the brake pedal, and the car remains stopped, even when taking the foot off the brake pedal, until the driver accelerates and the vehicle begins to roll. When set, the instrument cluster indicates SBC HOLD. I like using this function and miss it when switching back to other cars. As far as I know it was first introduced in the spring of 2003 in the 04 E-class Estate and lateron in the 2004 SLs.

DRY BRAKE

And finally there is the dry brake function. It is always activated when the windshield wipers run. The system then knows, that it rains and, with short brake pulses unnoticed by the driver, keeps the brake discs always dry and fully functional.


Cars with SBC
Mercedes SL roadster (R230)
Mercedes E-Class sedan (W211) and Estate (S211) until mid 2006
Mercedes E-Class 4matic sedan (W211) and 4matic Estate (S211) until mid 2006
Mercedes SLR (C199)
Maybach 57 and 62 (W240)
Mercedes CLS coupe (C219) until mid 2006

My 2004 has none of these features except for the dry brake. I wonder if they have to be activated via Star. I also wonder if you must have distronic to have the SBC-Stop feature.
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My 2004 has none of these features except for the dry brake. I wonder if they have to be activated via Star. I also wonder if you must have distronic to have the SBC-Stop feature.
my car is a 2003 without distronic.
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Good info... Need to try the SBC H.... so are you sure SBC Stop is no more from MY2005+?
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my car is a 2003 without distronic.
My car also does not have distronic.
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Sbc h - say you are at stop light. Your leg is on the break. Squeez the brake pedal and lift you leg. The car will remain stationary.
No SBC Hold on 2007 E63 Canadian spec.
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My car is a 2004 without distronic and NONE of these features work. I tried SBC HOLD and SBC STOP numerous times and got nothing.
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lol ok so the traffic jam thing, I tried to do it yesterday... but when do you engage it? While in motion? Stopped? Foot on brake? off it? On gas? Off it? Under 10mph? You push the stalk forward up down pull it? lol I'm starting to this it's bull**** haha
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Hello All,


Figured it out this morning....

For the 05-06 model's we hold the driver side AUTO BUTTON feature for 10 second's.

Once Climate Control Data menu pops up, use the driver side TEMP UP & TEMP DOWN for toggle.



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So I was driving home from work today and I noticed I didn't have a Rest Button. I have a 06 E55 and I believe the rest button were on the 03-04 models.

Is there another button I can press to reach the Climate Control Data?


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Figured it out this morning....

For the 05-06 model's we hold the driver side AUTO BUTTON feature for 10 second's.

Once Climate Control Data menu pops up, use the driver side TEMP UP & TEMP DOWN for toggle.



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...Figured it out this morning....for the 05-06.....

SWEET!! Thanks for sharing!
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hmmm, unlock the car and leave it, it will lock back after a while and fold the side mirrors
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