Burn out question

shardul · 05-13-2009, 10:30 AM

So my rear tires are on the way out. I figured let me do some power brakeing burn outs with ESP OFF.
My question is that since our cars don't have LSD when doing the burn out should only one wheel spin or both the wheel?

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Autoscope · 05-13-2009, 10:35 AM

I am sure both of your tires will spin, considering that you don't have tread! Just make sure to video tape for us!

aleksandar1099 · 05-13-2009, 10:55 AM

Put it in dyno mode!

E55KOMPRESSED · 05-13-2009, 11:22 AM

+1 for dyno mode, did this and laid down two equal 60 stripes (could have gone more)

My car always lays down two stripes and I do not have the Quaife as far as I know.

shardul · 05-13-2009, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E55KOMPRESSED

+1 for dyno mode, did this and laid down two equal 60 stripes (could have gone more)

My car always lays down two stripes and I do not have the Quaife as far as I know.

I got happy this morning when I laid down two strips thinking I may have a LSD, maybe the previous owner put one.
So basically if we put down two stripes that doesnot mean we have a LSD

Roupin · 05-13-2009, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shardul

I got happy this morning when I laid down two strips thinking I may have a LSD, maybe the previous owner put one.
So basically if we put down two stripes that doesnot mean we have a LSD

Exactly. It just means you have enough power to spin both tires, even without LSD.

E55KOMPRESSED · 05-13-2009, 02:04 PM

I understand that we have a Brake Lock Differential, in other words we have an electronically controlled differential. If one wheel starts to slip the brake is applied to that wheel to stop the slipping, we're talking miliseconds I'm sure.

MB_Forever · 05-13-2009, 02:25 PM

Most of the time, you'll be able to spin both wheels, but sometimes if one wheel happens to be on a more slippery surface than the other wheel, then you will be spinning one wheel only while the other remains still. I've seen it on the track a few times during burnouts: one side of the water box has more water than the other and you're done

MJ50 · 05-13-2009, 03:11 PM

youtube time!

MB_Forever · 05-13-2009, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MJ50

youtube time!

+1

c43amgedmonton1 · 05-13-2009, 03:19 PM

isnt it that you will spin both tires in a straight line with or without an lsd, but when you go int a corner only one will spin?

anerbe · 05-13-2009, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by c43amgedmonton1

isnt it that you will spin both tires in a straight line with or without an lsd, but when you go int a corner only one will spin?

with the torque of this vehicle, you can easily get both wheels spinning on a turn, but it depends on the loading of the rear axle. if you can hit the accelerator with the rear wheels unloaded/light load right before or the early part of a turn, you can get both wheels to spin. if you are mid-turn with the rear wheel seeing much of the vehicle weight/load, it will be much harder to spin that one, as the inner rear wheel will want to spin.

jdeastbay · 05-13-2009, 06:25 PM

Just tried it coming back from a late lunch in an outdoor parking garage. ESP off, in D. Trust me, they both spin. Told an innocent bystander it was a science project.

AUS-E55 · 05-13-2009, 06:29 PM

I've got the Video cam, when is this happening ????

alumar · 05-13-2009, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shardul

So my rear tires are on the way out. I figured let me do some power brakeing burn outs with ESP OFF.
My question is that since our cars don't have LSD when doing the burn out should only one wheel spin or both the wheel?

Click my video in sig

finishing tires .... doesnt take long!

Hammer Down · 05-13-2009, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jdeastbay

Just tried it coming back from a late lunch in an outdoor parking garage. ESP off, in D. Trust me, they both spin. Told an innocent bystander it was a science project.

That's how I do it, whenever I want to clean off my tires I just turn the ESP off and let'r rip! come to think of it I can light them up with the ESP on as well

Nait Sirhc · 05-17-2009, 10:52 AM

So is the best way to get a continuous amount of smoke, but without actually getting traction and moving, to put it in Dyno mode and just stomp on it from a stop? Or is powerbraking at all a good idea?

intellilogic · 05-17-2009, 10:58 AM

SHRUGS, I have LSD.

FlatlineEF9 · 05-17-2009, 08:49 PM

even without LSD both will spin.... make sure to videotape it and leave lots of space for the tires to keep spinning down the road after you let off the throttle. haha

E55KOMPRESSED · 05-18-2009, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Nait Sirhc

So is the best way to get a continuous amount of smoke, but without actually getting traction and moving, to put it in Dyno mode and just stomp on it from a stop? Or is powerbraking at all a good idea?

When I tried it I started out with a power brake and then modulated the throttle keeping it in 1st gear at about 5K, I let off the brake as soon as I got them to start to spin. Seriously there is a huge amount of smoke and this huge grin that fills up the entire windshield that can be seen for miles!

StephenK · 05-22-2009, 08:20 PM

I suspect you own the property you were burning out your tires on.

mthis · 05-22-2009, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alumar

Click my video in sig

finishing tires .... doesnt take long!

sickkkkkkkkkkkkkkk i wanna do one now.

str8ridin · 05-23-2009, 12:42 PM

I was wondering the same thing. So, what exactly does an LSD do for our cars if both rear tires light up without one?

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05-13-2009, 10:35 AM	#2
Autoscope Former Vendor of MBWorld Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: DFW Posts: 395 Drives: E350 Sport & Rs6	I am sure both of your tires will spin, considering that you don't have tread! Just make sure to video tape for us!

05-13-2009, 11:22 AM	#4
E55KOMPRESSED Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: SLC Utah Posts: 52 Drives: 2005 E55 AMG	+1 for dyno mode, did this and laid down two equal 60 stripes (could have gone more) My car always lays down two stripes and I do not have the Quaife as far as I know.

05-13-2009, 02:04 PM	#7
E55KOMPRESSED Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: SLC Utah Posts: 52 Drives: 2005 E55 AMG	I understand that we have a Brake Lock Differential, in other words we have an electronically controlled differential. If one wheel starts to slip the brake is applied to that wheel to stop the slipping, we're talking miliseconds I'm sure.

05-13-2009, 03:19 PM	#11
c43amgedmonton1 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Edmonton AB Posts: 66 Drives: 03 E55	isnt it that you will spin both tires in a straight line with or without an lsd, but when you go int a corner only one will spin?

05-13-2009, 06:25 PM	#13
jdeastbay Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Bay Area Posts: 228 Drives: 2005 E55 / 2008 E63	Just tried it coming back from a late lunch in an outdoor parking garage. ESP off, in D. Trust me, they both spin. Told an innocent bystander it was a science project.

05-17-2009, 10:52 AM	#17
Nait Sirhc Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Salt Lake City, UT Posts: 239 Drives: 2004 E55 (gray), 1992 AWD DSM (577hp @ 35psi)	So is the best way to get a continuous amount of smoke, but without actually getting traction and moving, to put it in Dyno mode and just stomp on it from a stop? Or is powerbraking at all a good idea?

05-17-2009, 08:49 PM	#19
FlatlineEF9 Super Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Northern Napa Valley Posts: 635 Drives: 2 benzes and 2 hondas	even without LSD both will spin.... make sure to videotape it and leave lots of space for the tires to keep spinning down the road after you let off the throttle. haha __________________ 1990 honda civic SI, 1998 Acura Integra GS, 1996 Mercedes E320, 2003 Mercedes E55

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05-23-2009, 12:42 PM	#23
str8ridin MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,865 Drives: 05 E55	I was wondering the same thing. So, what exactly does an LSD do for our cars if both rear tires light up without one?

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