Thoughts on Porsche Panamera Turbo?

ATKM5 · 10-25-2009, 08:04 PM

I was cruising in my B200 5-speed loaner today

, since my car is at the stealers due to a manifold leak and saw a Panamera event. 5 of them driving behind each other

... I got a chance to talk to the guy in the Turbo. He floored it for me and it sounded ok but not as good as my CLS63 without the resonators............. and it was kinda on the ugly side.... Anyway, those are something like $125,000 right? Would you consider that car or not at all?

Opinions? Inputs?

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guysandiego · 10-25-2009, 08:39 PM

not at all --- even if i won the lottery

tscales · 10-25-2009, 09:00 PM

Not interested and my daily driver is a 911 Turbo.

It's just ugly.

Yacht Master · 10-25-2009, 09:06 PM

Panamera S
■MSRP: $89,800
■400hp
■0-60mph: 5.2 seconds
■Top Speed: 175 mph

Panamera 4S
■MSRP: $93,800
■400hp
■0-60mph: 4.8 seconds
■Top Speed: 175 mph

Panamera Turbo
■MSRP: $132,600
■500hp
■0-60 mph: 4.0 seconds
■Top Speed: 188 mph

Martinsvi · 10-25-2009, 09:11 PM

Porsche shouold stick to sport cars. The panamera is uglier than the X6BMW. The Cayenne isnt much better..Just a more plush Toureg.
If I am spending that much for a car it is going to have a 3 pointed star in front.

IndiumGreyE63 · 10-25-2009, 09:23 PM

Definitely butt. Even Porsche knows it. I received a mini-brochure on it in the mail, and there are no pictures of this armadillo's a$$ anywhere in the brochure.

I threw it away. I should have burned it.

guysandiego · 10-25-2009, 09:26 PM

yeah thats alot of $$$$ -- Better options out there -- like our E55 -- E63

WWMIndy · 10-25-2009, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IndiumGreyE63

I received a mini-brochure on it in the mail, and there are no pictures of this armadillo's a$$ anywhere in the brochure.

I threw it away. I should have burned it.

LMAO!!!

They really struck-out on this one IMO...

Sales will give us a better idea - I just hope I don't get stuck behind one in traffic on the way home in Chicago...

WWMIndy · 10-25-2009, 09:45 PM

BTW hate the center console - WAY too many buttons...

Makes me dizzy thinking about it..

enzom · 10-25-2009, 09:53 PM

Saw two at my local dealer after a PR event. God are they ugly.

Zax63 · 10-25-2009, 09:57 PM

saw one in person, sat in it. Rather get a 6 month old Maserati Quattroporte or coupe. Or CLS 63. Thing is nasty ugly. Back looks like a stretched Crossfire.

nick 55 · 10-25-2009, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WWMIndy

Sales will give us a better idea - I just hope I don't get stuck behind one in traffic on the way home in Chicago...

You don't live in Chicago, you live in Indy, so you probably won't have to ever worry about seeing one again.

Just kidding.
Nick

myntk12 · 10-25-2009, 10:32 PM

Spend a few minutes in one the other day at Rusnak. Wow, this is one of those rare moments that the car is even uglier in person vs pics.
Have owned 10+ Porsches I can honestly say, I would almost be embarrassed to drive one.

Martinsvi · 10-25-2009, 10:37 PM

You know, you can put racing stripes on a turd... but it is still a turd.

stevebez · 10-26-2009, 09:18 AM

For a start its slower than the W212 E63.... Search for the article I posted on the E63 test UK Car mag did on it and how the competition fared too. The E63 won the sport sedan category.

I don't think Benz has ever had a competing sedan thats faster than the comparable Porsche. Complete Porsche own goal if you ask me. And I love Porsche, but to me there is only one Porsche (ok maybe 2) that are pure... The Turbo and the GT3. The rest are toys.

I don't know what Porsche were thinking here. Anyhow VW have already axed the Panamera line at the end of its product cycle - there won't be another one - thankfully.

O and did I mention its very ugly? Seen one up close and man I dunno what the guys were on when they passed that design.

Why don't Porsche come up with another incarnation of the Carrera GT? Now that was a machine in all respects.

indyjoe · 10-26-2009, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevebez

For a start its slower than the W212 E63.... Search for the article I posted on the E63 test UK Car mag did on it and how the competition fared too. The E63 won the sport sedan category.

I don't think Benz has ever had a competing sedan thats faster than the comparable Porsche. Complete Porsche own goal if you ask me. And I love Porsche, but to me there is only one Porsche (ok maybe 2) that are pure... The Turbo and the GT3. The rest are toys.

I don't know what Porsche were thinking here. Anyhow VW have already axed the Panamera line at the end of its product cycle - there won't be another one - thankfully.

O and did I mention its very ugly? Seen one up close and man I dunno what the guys were on when they passed that design.

Why don't Porsche come up with another incarnation of the Carrera GT? Now that was a machine in all respects.

I just read in Automobile Mag that the new head of Porsche has already decided to kill the Panamera. It was already too far into production, or it would've never been released. Who knows how long it will last. He says full life-cycle, but I doubt it. He also said the Touareg, Q7, and Cayenne will be phased out. They're thinking of using the Panamera as a reskinned S7/RS7 or even a new Porsche coupe, which would be much better than an ugly 4 door sedan.

JustPete · 10-26-2009, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATKM5

I was cruising in my B200 5-speed loaner today

, since my car is at the stealers due to a manifold leak and saw a Panamera event. 5 of them driving behind each other

... I got a chance to talk to the guy in the Turbo. He floored it for me and it sounded ok but not as good as my CLS63 without the resonators............. and it was kinda on the ugly side.... Anyway, those are something like $125,000 right? Would you consider that car or not at all?

Opinions? Inputs?

They look like a bad copy of a CLS to me with a hatch back rear.

RacerX0911 · 10-26-2009, 09:04 PM

it is very ugly...

bigben320e · 10-27-2009, 12:06 AM

BLAH.....

kustom2k1 · 10-27-2009, 02:19 AM

I was at Palm beach raceway over the weekend and got to see the Porsche's first hand, true they are ugly but i witnessed them run with 3 E92 M3 with 4 passengers in the Porsche. Those cars are plenty fast i couldn't believe my eyes!! Porsche's were none turbo models.

myntk12 · 10-27-2009, 11:32 PM

One would have to go fast in the car as it surely does not impress standing still.

007Benz · 10-27-2009, 11:32 PM

My thoughts, fugly!

ATKM5 · 10-28-2009, 12:29 AM

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks that it is ugly! LOL, I expected a few people to say that they like it! As for being awesome on the track, I have no doubt that it is! After all, its a Porsche, hell, even the Cayenne GTS is fast on track...

K-A · 10-28-2009, 08:11 AM

Haven't seen any in person yet but I think it's ugly. The interior looks pretty nice and fancy though.

Porsche should stick to the 911, releasing the Cayenne, Panamera, etc. just give people reason to doubt such an iconic brand.

cte430 · 10-28-2009, 03:14 PM

It is polarizing that's for sure. I hate to say it but like a fungus, it's growing on me

Wouldn't be my everyday car but my wife may be looking for something else. Might not be bad for her?

The interior is very nice and you can't see the outside of the car while driving so who knows, it might work?

Road and Track (i think just tested). Here's some of their comments:

0-60 3.3 seconds
1/4 mile - 11.7

Highs: Scary fast, Bentley-esque interior, as visceral as an abattior
Lows: Bizarre shape, poor rearward view, base price of 133K
The Verdict: More 911 turbo than a luxury sedan, but hey, is that a bad thing?

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10-25-2009, 09:00 PM	#3
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Martinsvi Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 16 Drives: 2006 C55 AMG	Porsche shouold stick to sport cars. The panamera is uglier than the X6BMW. The Cayenne isnt much better..Just a more plush Toureg. If I am spending that much for a car it is going to have a 3 pointed star in front.

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Zax63 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 249 Drives: 2007 E63, 2006 R500	saw one in person, sat in it. Rather get a 6 month old Maserati Quattroporte or coupe. Or CLS 63. Thing is nasty ugly. Back looks like a stretched Crossfire. __________________ removed my sig because 12.30 just ain't quick anymore!

10-25-2009, 10:32 PM	#13
myntk12 Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 145 Drives: 2004 E55 AMG	Spend a few minutes in one the other day at Rusnak. Wow, this is one of those rare moments that the car is even uglier in person vs pics. Have owned 10+ Porsches I can honestly say, I would almost be embarrassed to drive one.

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Martinsvi Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 16 Drives: 2006 C55 AMG	You know, you can put racing stripes on a turd... but it is still a turd.

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stevebez MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 2,292 Drives: No longer stock '06 E55, 330i BMW, LRD3 HSE, A160	For a start its slower than the W212 E63.... Search for the article I posted on the E63 test UK Car mag did on it and how the competition fared too. The E63 won the sport sedan category. I don't think Benz has ever had a competing sedan thats faster than the comparable Porsche. Complete Porsche own goal if you ask me. And I love Porsche, but to me there is only one Porsche (ok maybe 2) that are pure... The Turbo and the GT3. The rest are toys. I don't know what Porsche were thinking here. Anyhow VW have already axed the Panamera line at the end of its product cycle - there won't be another one - thankfully. O and did I mention its very ugly? Seen one up close and man I dunno what the guys were on when they passed that design. Why don't Porsche come up with another incarnation of the Carrera GT? Now that was a machine in all respects. __________________ Rgds Steve 2006 E55 Iridium Silver [X] AMG 19" 2 Piece IV [X] MP designs steering wheel [X] Front washer lowering [X] Wetterauer SportversionII [X] ASP 180mm Pulley [X] VRUS HEM [X] VRUS 80mm TB [X] VRUS CF Airbox [X] VRUS S/C Phenolics [X] Quaife [X] 2.82 diff gearing [X] Kleemann TCU Full Upgrade [] Kleemann Camshafts - on their way! [X] W220 Extra Heat Exchanger [X] CODE3 Front Heat Exchanger [X] Johnson CM90 [X] 10 Gal Rear mount reservoir

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kustom2k1 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 41 Drives: 03sl55	I was at Palm beach raceway over the weekend and got to see the Porsche's first hand, true they are ugly but i witnessed them run with 3 E92 M3 with 4 passengers in the Porsche. Those cars are plenty fast i couldn't believe my eyes!! Porsche's were none turbo models.

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myntk12 Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 145 Drives: 2004 E55 AMG	One would have to go fast in the car as it surely does not impress standing still.

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ATKM5 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Toronto/Mississauga/Moscow Posts: 347 Drives: 2008 CLS63 AMG	I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks that it is ugly! LOL, I expected a few people to say that they like it! As for being awesome on the track, I have no doubt that it is! After all, its a Porsche, hell, even the Cayenne GTS is fast on track... __________________ Present - 2008 Mercedes CLS63 AMG - Silver on Black... Gone - 2005 Mercedes E55 AMG - Black on Black... Gone - 2006 BMW M5 SMG - Silverstone on Indianapolis Red, gone but will never be forgotten... Gone - 2003 Hummer H2 - Black on Beige... *Mississauga Crew*

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