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Old 04-12-2008, 11:00 PM
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Wow! Don't drive the 63 Black unless ...

... unless you're ready to buy it.

I had a chance to test drive one today and I can't believe what a monster it is. The car is so precise that you think, "No bleeping way is this a Mercedes."

The acceleration is exceptional but that's not what grabs you. The car is just built tight that you notice it before getting out of the parking lot. It's not a bit of exaggeration to say that you (at least I did) notice how connected the whole car is to your body before you hit 10 miles per hour.

When you get out on the road, the ride feels smooth and you can hear the power just waiting to explode. I drove down the street to the highway and didn't get a sense of the precision the car offers until accelerating down the on ramp. I was probably doing 80 when I started to take the first lane to my left, bear in mind that I drive a CL55 that's modded, so the torque and speed felt from 20 to 80 was nothing unusual. Then I started to take that lane and the CLK almost leaped across the highway! I was absolutely startled that the car responded so quickly. From that moment forward the car did nothing but sell itself. After settling at cruise of 70, I popped down 2 gears and hit 100+ with no drama at all. I commented to the sales guy, "that was a hundred" and he was visibly shocked. Did I mention that he sells Porsches and this was his first ride in the CLK?

From there we cruised a bit more until I got off the highway and hit a few corners, nose in, perfect follow through and great pick up coming out - the car was incredible. It wasn't a track technical turn but it was a good deal more crisp than my 996TT.

Then I pulled into an empty parking lot for a brake test and started at one end of the short side aiming at the curb on the other side at full throttle. I waited and waited until I saw the sales guy flinch, then paused an extra second and nailed the brakes. I stopped embarrassingly short of the curb. I thought it would be close but I had to be 20' short.

From there I encouraged the sales guy to take a turn and he was actually grateful to get behind the wheel. All I should say about his drive is that he was just flat out impressed.

I was really there (having already driven a Cayenne) as a screener for my wife and after getting back to the dealership I couldn't really focus on talking about the Cayenne deal because my mind was still back in the 63. It was just like chuck z said, "I can't wipe the smile off my face."

Now the lust has been kindled and I won't be happy until I scratch that itch. It's gonna' take a few months, but I've just gotta' have one.

For you guys that have the car already, congratulations on being so darn smart to buy it early. For you guys that don't have one, don't drive one until you're ready to buy!
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+1 ... damn

I was already considering it and now you almost sold me.
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DFW01E55,

Thanks for the great write-up of your impressions!

By the way, there's only a couple of downsides to driving a CLK 63 Black Series that I have found . . .

1. All speed limits are way too low.

2. All other drivers are driving way too slowly, and always seem to be in the way.

I think the above insights are similar to the revelation I had when I finally discovered that everyone seemed to be driving very slowly
only on the days when I had over-amped on espresso!

The Black Series IS amazing.

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Originally Posted by DFW01E55
... unless you're ready to buy it.

It was just like chuck z said, "I can't wipe the smile off my face."
Great write up!

It really is one of those life altering automotive experiences! I get such a kick out of this car from the instant you push the button to fire it up and hear that exhaust rumble to the pin you in your seat accelleration to the instantaneous lane changes and yes it will stop on a dime. It is absolutely the most amazing car I have EVER driven. I highly recommend it.......
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Originally Posted by JDB
DFW01E55,

Thanks for the great write-up of your impressions!

By the way, there's only a couple of downsides to driving a CLK 63 Black Series that I have found . . .

1. All speed limits are way too low.

2. All other drivers are driving way slow, and always seem to be in the way.

I think the above insights are similar to the revelation I had when I finally discovered that everyone seemed to be driving very slowly only on the days when I had over-amped on espresso!

The Black Series IS amazing.

JDB
Dam... there goes the hood and the resale value....
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That was my first mistake.

Took a test drive and now have this itch don't won't go away. I'll eventually get one just a matter of time.

Gotta admit it's a pretty sweet car and being in southern cali with all the traffic this is just a perfect car.

Thanks for the write up.
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Gotta admit it's a pretty sweet car and being in southern cali with all the traffic this is just a perfect car.
whys that?
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Originally Posted by Fantasm
whys that?
Notorious LA traffic.
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Notorious LA traffic.
Right, but what about this car makes it good for traffic?
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Originally Posted by DFW01E55
... unless you're ready to buy it.

I had a chance to test drive one today and I can't believe what a monster it is. The car is so precise that you think, "No bleeping way is this a Mercedes."

The acceleration is exceptional but that's not what grabs you. The car is just built tight that you notice it before getting out of the parking lot. It's not a bit of exaggeration to say that you (at least I did) notice how connected the whole car is to your body before you hit 10 miles per hour.

When you get out on the road, the ride feels smooth and you can hear the power just waiting to explode. I drove down the street to the highway and didn't get a sense of the precision the car offers until accelerating down the on ramp. I was probably doing 80 when I started to take the first lane to my left, bear in mind that I drive a CL55 that's modded, so the torque and speed felt from 20 to 80 was nothing unusual. Then I started to take that lane and the CLK almost leaped across the highway! I was absolutely startled that the car responded so quickly. From that moment forward the car did nothing but sell itself. After settling at cruise of 70, I popped down 2 gears and hit 100+ with no drama at all. I commented to the sales guy, "that was a hundred" and he was visibly shocked. Did I mention that he sells Porsches and this was his first ride in the CLK?

From there we cruised a bit more until I got off the highway and hit a few corners, nose in, perfect follow through and great pick up coming out - the car was incredible. It wasn't a track technical turn but it was a good deal more crisp than my 996TT.

Then I pulled into an empty parking lot for a brake test and started at one end of the short side aiming at the curb on the other side at full throttle. I waited and waited until I saw the sales guy flinch, then paused an extra second and nailed the brakes. I stopped embarrassingly short of the curb. I thought it would be close but I had to be 20' short.

From there I encouraged the sales guy to take a turn and he was actually grateful to get behind the wheel. All I should say about his drive is that he was just flat out impressed.

I was really there (having already driven a Cayenne) as a screener for my wife and after getting back to the dealership I couldn't really focus on talking about the Cayenne deal because my mind was still back in the 63. It was just like chuck z said, "I can't wipe the smile off my face."

Now the lust has been kindled and I won't be happy until I scratch that itch. It's gonna' take a few months, but I've just gotta' have one.

For you guys that have the car already, congratulations on being so darn smart to buy it early. For you guys that don't have one, don't drive one until you're ready to buy!

LOL....... Amazing , I knew it had to be good but did not expect this glowing of a test drive. I love that you were telling the sales guy, "go ahead man push it , do it drive it it's ok" ROTFLMAO.

so now what?
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Right, but what about this car makes it good for traffic?
it is good at bobbing and weaving? dunno. traffic sucks in any car but you would look great in this car it stands out and sounds like it would be fun
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Originally Posted by Fantasm
Right, but what about this car makes it good for traffic?
2008 335i Coupe
'07 S2000 (gone)
'05 E55 AMG (gone)
'07 FJ Cruiser (gone)
'04 SL55 (gone)
'07 Jeep SRT-8 (gone)
'04 BMW M3 (gone)
'06 F-150 King Ranch (gone)
'91 300ZX TT (gone)
'90 300ZX NA (gone)

I think you need to address your car choices before you become so petulant!

Go drive the BS and answer your own questions! But don't drive it unless you are prepared to buy (as per OP's insights) one.
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Originally Posted by fickleone
2008 335i Coupe
'07 S2000 (gone)
'05 E55 AMG (gone)
'07 FJ Cruiser (gone)
'04 SL55 (gone)
'07 Jeep SRT-8 (gone)
'04 BMW M3 (gone)
'06 F-150 King Ranch (gone)
'91 300ZX TT (gone)
'90 300ZX NA (gone)

I think you need to address your car choices before you become so petulant!

Go drive the BS and answer your own questions! But don't drive it unless you are prepared to buy (as per OP's insights) one.

Did you not see that I am interested in buying this car? I asked him because I wanted to hear why he thought that about it. It would be very nice if it was great to drive in traffic, but before I account for it as fact or truth and take it into consideration in my decision, I want some information to substantiate his claim.

What is wrong with my car choices anyhow? I've liked every one of them except the S2000.
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Originally Posted by fickleone
2008 335i Coupe
'07 S2000 (gone)
'05 E55 AMG (gone)
'07 FJ Cruiser (gone)
'04 SL55 (gone)
'07 Jeep SRT-8 (gone)
'04 BMW M3 (gone)
'06 F-150 King Ranch (gone)
'91 300ZX TT (gone)
'90 300ZX NA (gone)

I think you need to address your car choices before you become so petulant!

Go drive the BS and answer your own questions! But don't drive it unless you are prepared to buy (as per OP's insights) one.
Ya, what's wrong with his car choices? He has owned some of the all-time greats. The 91 TT Z is a classic, the SRT-8 Grand Cherokee is AWESOME, an SL55, an E55 and a 04 M3...these are some of the best vehicles available in their day and still demand respect.

WHAT DO YOU DRIVE?
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Originally Posted by Fantasm
Right, but what about this car makes it good for traffic?
I only say it's good for traffic because of where i live traffic is 80-90% heavy all the time and since the BS is auto you don't have to pop the clutch in and out so it's easier on your legs.

Again this is the condition around my area that's why i say the BS is a perfect balance for me.
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There is nothing "wrong" with his car choices. However, they are all very different (in performance and purpose) when compared to the Black Series.

The only way (imo) to evaluate the Black Series (or opine, meaningfully, on its relative merits) is to drive it.

It is a great daily driver in traffic (auto) and a worthy, if not exact, comparison to a GT3 for track like performance. Especially when you apply multiple uses for the car (street and track).
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Originally Posted by fickleone
There is nothing "wrong" with his car choices. However, they are all very different (in performance and purpose) when compared to the Black Series.

The only way (imo) to evaluate the Black Series (or opine, meaningfully, on its relative merits) is to drive it.

It is a great daily driver in traffic (auto) and a worthy, if not exact, comparison to a GT3 for track like performance. Especially when you apply multiple uses for the car (street and track).
I'll tell you what, the Black Series is not a great daily driver. Anyone who says it is is lying. The seats are snug, the ride is harsh, the torque is nearly unmanagable in stop and go, it's on or it's off. Your neck will be sore after a half hour of stop and go whiplash. Yes, it has some creature comforts, but I would never call it a good daily driver. The only advantage I see with this car over a GT3 is the fact that it is an automatic. Other than that it sucks as a driver in traffic.

That being said, it is as fun or more fun than anything out there, so I just deal with it.

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I'll tell you what, the Black Series is not a great daily driver. Anyone who says it is is lying. The seats are snug, the ride is harsh, the torque is nearly unmanagable in stop and go, it's on or it's off.
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Could most of that be a function of your considerable mods?

The seats are tight, I'm not sure anyone over 200lbs would enjoy them.
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Could most of that be a function of your considerable mods?

The seats are tight, I'm not sure anyone over 200lbs would enjoy them.
If anything my new springs give it a better ride. I have hardly driven the car in stop and go traffic since the mods. I was refering to the car in it's stock form. Not my opinion of a comfortable or good daily driver. Like I said, I'm not knocking it, it's my favorite car. I will sacrafice a little comfort for lots of fun and performance. If you want comfort by a CL or S or a GT car, like a Maserati or Aston Martin, all of which can be had for around the same price as a Black Series, give or take a couple bucks, none of which are slouches either.

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I saw one at Motorworks of Barrington in IL...blk on blk and it was very nicely fitted even the roll cage in barely noticable if you can find it at all...the sales man was kind enough to let me and my son sit in it but I didn't want to get the itch so I just watched my son...very nice Benz!
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I saw one at Motorworks of Barrington in IL...blk on blk and it was very nicely fitted even the roll cage in barely noticable if you can find it at all...the sales man was kind enough to let me and my son sit in it but I didn't want to get the itch so I just watched my son...very nice Benz!
Motorworks has a Black Series with a roll cage in it? Is it new or used? I have to see this.
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Motorworks has a Black Series with a roll cage in it? Is it new or used? I have to see this.
Well it appears as a roll cage(if thats the right wording) anyways its noticable ONLY from the rear trunk...I believe its new...
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Well it appears as a roll cage(if thats the right wording) anyways its noticable ONLY from the rear trunk...I believe its new...
No, that's the rear strut tower brace. A roll cage/bar would be in the cockpit/passanger compartment, behind the seats...you would not miss it. You will see when you take a look ar mine.


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